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Ablondiebutagoody · 10/06/2025 11:11

AIBU to think that this kind of unrest/attack is happening more frequently now? Or did I just not notice before?

NBU - Yes, it's more frequent
ABU - You didn't notice before

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 12/06/2025 07:32

spoonbillstretford · 12/06/2025 07:09

Clearly you don't. Abortion law is not the same as in the rest of the UK.

When did I type that it was the same as the rest of the UK?
I lived in NI. My husband is a Belfast born Catholic.
It is a million miles from the UK and has an extremely high number of pro-life, anti abortion activists.
It's a dominated by religion and misogyny on both sides of the coin.

BridgetofKildare · 12/06/2025 07:32

OchonAgusOchonOh · 11/06/2025 23:36

No, because it's got nothing to do with rape or vawg

Were there riots in response to the Ulster rugby players rale trial? Bet she was “a stupied girl making trouble for the lads” . And were there loud cries for Dennis Coulson to be deported from France?

spoonbillstretford · 12/06/2025 07:09

EmeraldShamrock000 · 12/06/2025 07:07

Clearly you can no idea what you are typing about.

Clearly you don't. Abortion law is not the same as in the rest of the UK.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 12/06/2025 07:07

spoonbillstretford · 12/06/2025 06:16

NI and Ireland also need to sort out their home grown reproductive rights issues.

Clearly you can no idea what you are typing about.

spoonbillstretford · 12/06/2025 06:48

MoreCraicPlease · 12/06/2025 06:26

What do you mean by that?
The Republic of Ireland has different laws to Northern Ireland obviously and I’m curious what reproductive rights issues you mean.

Edited

It's still difficult to get an abortion in NI and women regularly travel to England to have one. It's only legal up to 12 weeks.

MoreCraicPlease · 12/06/2025 06:26

spoonbillstretford · 12/06/2025 06:16

NI and Ireland also need to sort out their home grown reproductive rights issues.

What do you mean by that?
The Republic of Ireland has different laws to Northern Ireland obviously and I’m curious what reproductive rights issues you mean.

Barnbrack · 12/06/2025 06:25

FlamingoFloss · 11/06/2025 23:52

I feel actually quite shocked that rape rate in NI is high ;(

Really? A country still recovering from a level of mysogyny that allowed travesties like the magdelene laundries? I'd say northern Ireland is about 20-49 years behind in women's rights and domestic abuse compared to the rest of the UK. Many people still suffer mental health issues as a result of the time during the 'troublee' and everything else was ignored in that time including women's rights and children's rights. The mysogyny of the place (I'm in my 40s and I'd say the younger generation is improving but in my dating days I saw being from northern Ireland as a massive red flag straight away because of the men and boys I'd grown up with)

Barnbrack · 12/06/2025 06:22

friendsromans · 10/06/2025 16:07

Fine to rape if you’re a local, but not if you’re foreign it seems. Femicide and sexual assault rates are horrific in NI, but you’ll only see a protest if the alleged perpetrators are not indigenous. Any excuse for a baying mob, they are scumbags.

I'm from northern Ireland, very close to ballymena and coleraine infact but no longer live there. The racism is disgusting and I'm ashamed of the place. But then I largely left because of the small minded, backward views of the place. I go home a fair bit, miss it when I'm away but am inevitably horrified by the chat from people when I go home. Not my family and friends and also there are so many more progressive people who are not like this but it's like the secterian hatred never healed and turned outward for many. Like a lot of the secterian activity in the 90s and beyond it's born of poverty and a lack of opportunities. There was no government there basically for ages and things like child are hours were never made available in the way they are in the rest of the UK.

I'm so saddened by the footage. I wish I had something more hopeful to say.

spoonbillstretford · 12/06/2025 06:16

MiloMinderbinder925 · 12/06/2025 04:16

I haven't heard of any protests or demonstrations against domestic abuse or sexual assault which are at crisis levels in NI. I very much doubt women and children feel safer during the riots.

NI and Ireland also need to sort out their home grown reproductive rights issues.

DeanElderberry · 12/06/2025 06:04

I keep remembering the clip of them singing about Michaela McAreavey's murder.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 12/06/2025 04:16

OchonAgusOchonOh · 11/06/2025 23:36

No, because it's got nothing to do with rape or vawg

I haven't heard of any protests or demonstrations against domestic abuse or sexual assault which are at crisis levels in NI. I very much doubt women and children feel safer during the riots.

FlamingoFloss · 11/06/2025 23:52

friendsromans · 10/06/2025 16:07

Fine to rape if you’re a local, but not if you’re foreign it seems. Femicide and sexual assault rates are horrific in NI, but you’ll only see a protest if the alleged perpetrators are not indigenous. Any excuse for a baying mob, they are scumbags.

I feel actually quite shocked that rape rate in NI is high ;(

OchonAgusOchonOh · 11/06/2025 23:36

EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/06/2025 23:34

I didn't see anything like this response to Jeffrey D's allegation and the likes of his kind.

No, because it's got nothing to do with rape or vawg

EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/06/2025 23:34

I didn't see anything like this response to Jeffrey D's allegation and the likes of his kind.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 11/06/2025 23:33

AdultHumanF · 11/06/2025 21:40

God bless anyone there. I think we need the army at this point.

Yeah. That worked out really well the last time they did it in NI.

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/06/2025 23:04

usedtobeaylis · 11/06/2025 19:16

More 'protests' tonight, all loyalist areas.

Yep. It's the season for loyalists to burn people not like us out and destroy their own communities causing huge damage and costing loads.

It's disgusting and there's absolutely no excusing or justifying it.AngryAngryAngry

LeticiaMorales · 11/06/2025 22:51

The mob have set a migrant centre on fire now. It was housing Romanians. Absolutely horrific scenes, how has it come to this?.

daff0di1 · 11/06/2025 22:43

friendsromans · 10/06/2025 16:07

Fine to rape if you’re a local, but not if you’re foreign it seems. Femicide and sexual assault rates are horrific in NI, but you’ll only see a protest if the alleged perpetrators are not indigenous. Any excuse for a baying mob, they are scumbags.

Literally just said this to my partner. Best of it is they smash up their own city in the process

samarrange · 11/06/2025 22:37

ellie09 · 11/06/2025 22:27

On conviction

Ah. Maybe you meant "when we are paying* costs to keep them in prison*" in your previous post? Because you wrote "convict" in your comment that I quoted. 🙏

Anyway, the difficulty with just deporting people like that is that you need a deal with their home country that ensure they will actually serve jail time. Getting deported is not a particularly huge deterrent to committing a crime that would get 10 years or more for a local citizen. This would probably have to be a bilateral treaty, because even if there was an EU-wide agreement (I don't think there is), it would all have been torn up by you-know-what.

ellie09 · 11/06/2025 22:27

samarrange · 11/06/2025 22:06

However, when we are paying costs to convict immigrants instead of just deporting them back and getting their home country to foot the bill, thats where I have the problem.

On what basis are you going to decide to deport them, if not on the basis of a conviction in court? Do you think that people should be deported on the basis of someone just calling the police and saying "X attacked me"?

On conviction

samarrange · 11/06/2025 22:06

ellie09 · 11/06/2025 11:54

I live in NI, about 20 mins outside of Belfast and 30 mins from Ballymena, and I can tell you now that most locals are appalled by the violence.

It is misdirected anger. They are angry at the government, but instead of articulating themselves correctly or protesting at Stormont, they ruin their own towns and target innocent people to get a reaction.

Most of the rioters are teenagers or very young adults. They know nothing about the world and aren't interested in educating themselves further because their parents encourage it also.

I also dont agree with the level of immigration. I also think if any immigrant or asylum seeker etc commits a crime, they should be deported back to their home countries.

Thats not to say I am also ignoring the fact that local men commit more of these crimes.

However, local men are our problem, as they are British Citizens. Therefore, I was no issues with tax money spent on trials, court etc to get justice. However, when we are paying costs to convict immigrants instead of just deporting them back and getting their home country to foot the bill, thats where I have the problem.

This should apply to British Citizens who immigrants abroad to other countries also.

The police have next to no power to control these either. I was blocked from driving down my road last night by local people dressed in bavaclavas whilst the police sat in their car at the corner drinking a Tim Hortons coffee.

However, when we are paying costs to convict immigrants instead of just deporting them back and getting their home country to foot the bill, thats where I have the problem.

On what basis are you going to decide to deport them, if not on the basis of a conviction in court? Do you think that people should be deported on the basis of someone just calling the police and saying "X attacked me"?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/06/2025 22:03

NI thugs are always settling things on fire while enjoying a street riot.
It's their method of violence.
From cross community fighting to terrorising foreigners.
Certain parts are extremely racist towards anyones who isn't British.

PaxAeterna · 11/06/2025 21:58

User135644 · 11/06/2025 19:36

Not condoning it. Just saying it's a reality. People have continually voted for lower immigration and just get more and higher levels. When you've exhausted all democratic means and are still ignored then civil unrest is inevitable

Northern Ireland is the least diverse region of the UK. just over 6% of the population were born out if the UK.

So it doesn’t really make sense. There are deeper things at play, immigrants just get the blame.

PaxAeterna · 11/06/2025 21:52

Bushmillsbabe · 11/06/2025 10:04

Quite a lot of Ireland is, outside the big towns and cities. My husbands family come from a small village in ROI and going there feels like stepping back in time. My daughter said to my MIL, 'Grandma why is Ireland so old fashioned' , that was not taken well! And my Irish in laws moan about immigrants all the time, whilst living in England 😂

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Ballymena is not a small town. It’s a town with a fair lot of union jacks on display. It can in no way be compared with a small old fashioned place in the Republic of Ireland where life has trundled along softly for years.

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