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Tom Felton getting stick. Is this really the world we live in now?

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User012389 · 10/06/2025 10:26

Whatever your stance is on trans issues do people really have nothing better to do than verbally slaughter him for choosing to continue within the franchise and being honest that he has no strong opinions on the matter? He's a big boy now and I'm sure he can handle himself but it makes me terrified for the young actors who are also already being subjected to this as well.

I myself was also pretty much forced to remove a post on a facebook group congratulating one of the young actors on being cast in the TV series as some of the vitriol I received completely overpowered the positive intention of the post. I said nothing inflammatory just pointed out that not everyone disagrees with JK's opinions and that we need to be accepting of opinions which are different to our own.

I'd understand the backlash if JK or so called TERFS were spreading genuine hate or encouraging persecution of a group but I just don't see that. IMO whatever your views on gender identity are there's way more horrible and important things going on in the world. Is a lot of trans-activisim really just a way for young people to express their very valid dissatisfaction with the world in general in a reasonably safe way? Honestly maybe I'm getting old and boring but I just don't get it.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/06/2025 11:49

Quite often when Gaiman was being criticised on eg Reddit someone would bring up JKR as an example of how if it’s ok to still like Harry Potter it’s ok to still enjoy Gaiman’s work. The two “bad things” are not in any way the same!

Roxietrees · 10/06/2025 11:47

@User012389 agreed. The trans debate has become beyond ridiculous, polarised and toxic beyond belief. No one is allowed to see both sides of the argument or have sympathy for both trans people and women. You just get destroyed by one side (usually the TRAs) and labelled a bigot and a transphobe. It makes me sick. It’s very sad that this is the world our children are growing up in. Tom Felton and other people in the public eye are completely entitled to choose what they want to express opinions on and not. I can’t believe he’s getting torn down for choosing not to express his opinions, not even for having the “wrong” opinion. He never volunteered to be a TRs spokesperson! TRAs are not far off Nazis imo….and I’m someone with fairly balanced views, who can see both sides of the argument. Children are starving to death in Palestine ffs and people are dedicating their entire lives to trying to ensure trans women are allowed in women’s toilets!!

marshmallowpuff · 10/06/2025 11:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/06/2025 11:37

Quite.

Yes, it’s quite telling how little condemnation there is for Gaiman in those circles. Everyone’s pretending not to talk about him or avoiding the subject of him very nicely indeed, and there certainly isn’t any of this incessant frothing rhetoric about how dreadful he is, like there is about Rowling just for stating a commonsense, middle ground opinion!

Grammarnut · 10/06/2025 11:40

Tom Felton was very careful what he said, that it didn't really affect him and that he was entirely grateful for JKR's work which had made his career. That so mild support is castigated with vitriol is very, very worrying.
JKR supports women's rights. She cannot be cancelled because she is mega-rich and really doesn't care what the TRAs say but other people are not so lucky and thus this attack on Felton is frightening. We haven't even nearly got there yet!
And well done Felton for supporting JKR and not giving in to those who think she should be burned in flames.😃Or to those who might like to ruin his career - that's very brave!

PruthePrune · 10/06/2025 11:38

Felton's answer was a masterclass in neutrality. However as others have said, unless you completely prostrate yourself at the trans alter, NOTHING is ever going to be good enough. Remember the troons are bullying a tiny rabbit rescue charity.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/06/2025 11:37

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 10/06/2025 11:36

It's really ridiculous. One of mine is reading the series now and I've had a few shifty responses - everyone is all good with any number of problematic male artists and writers, but JKR is vilified for standing up for women's rights.

Quite.

SteakBakesAndHotTakes · 10/06/2025 11:36

It's really ridiculous. One of mine is reading the series now and I've had a few shifty responses - everyone is all good with any number of problematic male artists and writers, but JKR is vilified for standing up for women's rights.

Spanador · 10/06/2025 11:34

LittleAlexHornesPocket · 10/06/2025 11:02

Oooh I wasn't aware Mumsnet had "thread police" now.

How do I get such a prestigious role please? Do you need any qualifications?

I also must have missed the announcement where MNHQ appointed that poster as the thread police. I've seen them doing it on loads of threads recently

MelOfTheRoses · 10/06/2025 11:32

Poor chap was only being normal, and sticking to acting.🤷‍♀️

Nothing would ever get done if you have to take a political stance, or argue about it, to do any work.

User012389 · 10/06/2025 11:30

Beamur · 10/06/2025 11:21

Tom Felton would be very aware of the likelihood of the criticism he would receive - regardless of how nicely he phrases his media comments.
Well done to him and all the other actors and creatives who are willing to be professional and do their jobs in the face of relentless bullying.

He will be. I don't know if these new child actors (or their parents) are going to know what's hit them though. If they're not being criticised for supporting JKR they're receiving nasty comments by loons on the other side for not being white enough 🙄 or just generally not being Dan,Rupert or Emma. I do hope they're ready for it.

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Cattenberg · 10/06/2025 11:25

PizzaSophiaLoren · 10/06/2025 10:50

I think it’s far better for everyone when actors don’t share their political beliefs.

I sometimes wonder if every celebrity from Rupert Grint to Greta Thunberg is contacted by TRAs requesting their support?

MaloryJones · 10/06/2025 11:24

Holluschickie · 10/06/2025 11:16

John Lithgow also spoke about how he got stick for saying yes to Dumbledore.

Good on Him
I like John Lithgow (not so much Harry Potter though, Sorry), especially as the Trinity Killer in Dexter .

Beamur · 10/06/2025 11:21

Tom Felton would be very aware of the likelihood of the criticism he would receive - regardless of how nicely he phrases his media comments.
Well done to him and all the other actors and creatives who are willing to be professional and do their jobs in the face of relentless bullying.

SidewaysOtter · 10/06/2025 11:18

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 10/06/2025 11:15

I was going to say this! The bunny rescue is doing a marvellous job of saying no actually we don't have to post what you think we should.

They've played a blinder - "We're just here for the rabbits" and repeat on a loop to the nutters.

Even better, they've ended up with more followers and a hell of a lot of donations out of it so the Barbara Streisand Effect is still in full effect!

LittleBitofBread · 10/06/2025 11:18

It does give an insight into perhaps why some of the others felt pressured into slating Rowling and being so vocally and simplistically pro-trans.
I don't think it excuses them, to be clear.

User012389 · 10/06/2025 11:17

GingerBeverage · 10/06/2025 11:14

Reckon his theatre run will sell out. Wouldn't be surprised if he nabs a guest role in the TV show later on.

I'm gutted he isn't playing Lucius in the HBO series. That would have been perfect!

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SidewaysOtter · 10/06/2025 11:16

User012389 · 10/06/2025 11:11

Personally I just want my own daughter to be allowed the protection of using toilets and changing rooms which are for her biologically assigned sex only. I want her to be able to say with confidence 'I don't give a fuck what you identify as, what your interests are or how you dress. I will be kind and respectful to you if you are kind and respectful to me' I want her to be able to express her opinions about sex and gender without being punished by the school (actually happened to my niece because she accidentally called a school friend she instead of they) I don't think this is much to ask for really

All quite reasonable, IMO. But to the TRA mob this is heresy - toe the line or we'll burn the witch!

Holluschickie · 10/06/2025 11:16

John Lithgow also spoke about how he got stick for saying yes to Dumbledore.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 10/06/2025 11:15

bellinisurge · 10/06/2025 11:04

You should see what they are doing to bunny rescues. These clowns are taking a long time burning themselves out. But they will

I was going to say this! The bunny rescue is doing a marvellous job of saying no actually we don't have to post what you think we should.

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSportsIsBack · 10/06/2025 11:15

User012389 · 10/06/2025 11:11

Personally I just want my own daughter to be allowed the protection of using toilets and changing rooms which are for her biologically assigned sex only. I want her to be able to say with confidence 'I don't give a fuck what you identify as, what your interests are or how you dress. I will be kind and respectful to you if you are kind and respectful to me' I want her to be able to express her opinions about sex and gender without being punished by the school (actually happened to my niece because she accidentally called a school friend she instead of they) I don't think this is much to ask for really

I love the sentiment but can I just say it's biologically observed sex not assigned. Assigned sex is part of the imaginary genderwoo.

SidewaysOtter · 10/06/2025 11:15

It's the whole "purity of thought" thing. There are a set of "correct" views according to a sub-section of the left (I say this as someone who is fairly lefty) and woe betide anyone who has a different opinion or has any sense of nuance.

As @bellinisurge, last week it was a bunny sanctuary they went after (sanctuary had a policy of following back anyone who followed them on TwiX, one such account was unsavoury but the TRAs tried to make the sanctuary state that they held certain views. When they refused the mob went after them). Like all those of a dictatorial mindset, they are as unpleasant as they are intolerant. Which is ironic as the people involved in these pile-ons would pride themselves on their tolerance, inclusivity and progressiveness Hmm

GingerBeverage · 10/06/2025 11:14

Reckon his theatre run will sell out. Wouldn't be surprised if he nabs a guest role in the TV show later on.

User012389 · 10/06/2025 11:11

Personally I just want my own daughter to be allowed the protection of using toilets and changing rooms which are for her biologically assigned sex only. I want her to be able to say with confidence 'I don't give a fuck what you identify as, what your interests are or how you dress. I will be kind and respectful to you if you are kind and respectful to me' I want her to be able to express her opinions about sex and gender without being punished by the school (actually happened to my niece because she accidentally called a school friend she instead of they) I don't think this is much to ask for really

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Verv · 10/06/2025 11:11

Aye, they're a septic and deranged little bunch, bless em.

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