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My daughter wants to go abroad without me

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Protectivemama · 09/06/2025 22:40

My daughter will be finishing secondary school next year and will have just turned 16. She wants to go on holiday after she leaves to go to Benidorm with her cousin, aged 23, who's offered to pay for the entire thing and will be taking her 2 yr old. My daughter has never been abroad before and neither me or her dad will be in the position to go. It's not that I don't want her to have such a wonderful opportunity but I think she is still far too young and not mature enough to be travelling abroad without parents so I've said no. For context, me and dad have been separated for many years and I hardly know the cousin(his side of the family) anymore but my daughter is very close to her. My daughter's safety is the most important thing in the world to me so when I think of all the things that could go wrong it reinforces this belief but AIBU??

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milkhoarder · 10/06/2025 14:27

YABU! Unless there is some huge history of this cousin being remarkably irresponsible (but doubt she still would be with a 2yo).

I paid for my two 16yo cousins to come on holiday with me and my two children two years ago (I'm 27 now, was 24 at the time) - they were a brilliant help with the kids, so responsible and kind and such a pleasure to spend time with. It hadn't even crossed my mind that this might be something a parent would be worried about! I'm a responsible parent!

I moved abroad on my own when I had just turned 18 and had been on trips with boyfriends/friends beforehand so maybe that changes how I see the situation.

OutdoorQueen · 10/06/2025 14:23

PalePinkPeony · 10/06/2025 14:06

Thats good it’s worked out for you in the end- I bet lots at the time thought it wouldn’t. It is perfect possible though to ensure that isn’t doesn’t happen. I have 3 teens currently and can’t even imagine this at 13 🤯 Just so far from the culture of our family / how we operate

Oh I know it’s far from the norm & we have been incredibly lucky how it worked out. I remember it really sinking in when our eldest was 13 & just remember thinking there was no way I could imagine her having a child etc

SapporoBaby · 10/06/2025 14:21

She will be fine and going abroad will open the world up to her. Let her go.

Lollypopbeach · 10/06/2025 14:19

crumblingschools · 10/06/2025 14:18

@Lollypopbeach in England you used to be able to get married at 16 with parent permission, but you can’t anymore. Have to wait until 18 and obviously don’t need permission

I think this is a lot better I couldn’t imagine being married at 16!

Lollypopbeach · 10/06/2025 14:18

Lollypopbeach · 10/06/2025 14:15

As a parent I understand your worries but I think you could possibly be holding her back from a lovely experience and opportunity by saying no.

I think it would be a good idea to ask to meet up with this cousin. I’d want to know the vibe of this person.

I think some people are being a bit harsh assuming OP’s daughter has been invited to be a babysitter, maybe DD and cousin are just really close and she thought instead of being lonely on holiday she would invite her favourite cousin. Just because she’s 23 doesn’t automatically = want to go clubbing and find a new baby daddy.

I would say to DD that you would like to meet cousin a couple of times before you go, have her contact details etc

What about a compromise? A 3 night holiday to Benidorm , you drop DD off and collect her from airport and you meet Cousin a few times before they go

crumblingschools · 10/06/2025 14:18

@Lollypopbeach in England you used to be able to get married at 16 with parent permission, but you can’t anymore. Have to wait until 18 and obviously don’t need permission

Lollypopbeach · 10/06/2025 14:17

PalePinkPeony · 10/06/2025 14:12

A child is anyone under 18 obviously. When a person gets full citizens rights.
And no a child of 16 or 17 in England cannot be legally married at 16.

Edited

I believe you used to a few years ago but they changed it, it’s now against law to marry until you are 18

Lollypopbeach · 10/06/2025 14:15

As a parent I understand your worries but I think you could possibly be holding her back from a lovely experience and opportunity by saying no.

I think it would be a good idea to ask to meet up with this cousin. I’d want to know the vibe of this person.

I think some people are being a bit harsh assuming OP’s daughter has been invited to be a babysitter, maybe DD and cousin are just really close and she thought instead of being lonely on holiday she would invite her favourite cousin. Just because she’s 23 doesn’t automatically = want to go clubbing and find a new baby daddy.

I would say to DD that you would like to meet cousin a couple of times before you go, have her contact details etc

PalePinkPeony · 10/06/2025 14:12

Pinty · 10/06/2025 14:08

It depends on the definition of a child. Some 16 year olds could be married

A child is anyone under 18 obviously. When a person gets full citizens rights.
And no a child of 16 or 17 in England cannot be legally married at 16.

PalePinkPeony · 10/06/2025 14:08

FoodAppropriation · 10/06/2025 13:26

and the difference between 18 and 16 is?

"this woman" is a cousin - OP can just speak with her ex and ask him? It's his kid too.

There is a BIG difference in most teens between 16 and 18!

Pinty · 10/06/2025 14:08

3678194b · 10/06/2025 02:08

As she's still a child and not 18, and also not travelling with a parent, she will need a letter of consent from you (both parents actually, otherwise showing official documentation as to why she only has one parent)

Airports often ask for this when a child is not travelling with both parents, and want to know why, especially if they have different surnames. Too risky to travel abroad without. So if you're not willing to provide that, she could come across issues.

www.gov.uk/permission-take-child-abroad

Edited

It depends on the definition of a child. Some 16 year olds could be married

LillyPJ · 10/06/2025 14:07

ginasevern · 10/06/2025 13:55

Good for you but this 16 year old will be in a foreign country. She won't be babysitting the nextdoor neighbour. There are language barriers, unfamiliar systems and any help from friends or family will be a plane ride away. I think it's fair to say you can be vulnerable yourself at 16. You are effectively still a child and actually too young to book accommodation on your own. I've lived overseas for years and even as an adult a medical emergency or fire for example is exacerabted by unfamiliar territory. But, if you'd be happy to leave your 2 year old under these circumstances, fair play to you. I personally would not.

I doubt if there'll be many language barriers in Benidorm!

PalePinkPeony · 10/06/2025 14:06

OutdoorQueen · 10/06/2025 13:37

I was on the pill (for my periods which were horrendous) but antibiotics had affected them combined with a condom that split. It was just a coincidence.
Should we have been having sex at that age, nope, but it happens.
As for being left alone for long enough with a boy, I find that utterly bizarre, teenagers will always find a way to do what they want.
Our second (and third) were planned, it wasn’t ideal but it worked for us.

Thats good it’s worked out for you in the end- I bet lots at the time thought it wouldn’t. It is perfect possible though to ensure that isn’t doesn’t happen. I have 3 teens currently and can’t even imagine this at 13 🤯 Just so far from the culture of our family / how we operate

Debtfreegoals · 10/06/2025 14:04

I think you’re going to hold her back. She’s going with an adult and a 2 year old so will not be out partying. Give her this.

ginasevern · 10/06/2025 13:55

BIossomtoes · 10/06/2025 12:52

I was pregnant with my second child when I was 23. And I certainly knew what to do in an emergency when I was 16. Your post epitomises the ridiculous way we infantalise young people these days.

Good for you but this 16 year old will be in a foreign country. She won't be babysitting the nextdoor neighbour. There are language barriers, unfamiliar systems and any help from friends or family will be a plane ride away. I think it's fair to say you can be vulnerable yourself at 16. You are effectively still a child and actually too young to book accommodation on your own. I've lived overseas for years and even as an adult a medical emergency or fire for example is exacerabted by unfamiliar territory. But, if you'd be happy to leave your 2 year old under these circumstances, fair play to you. I personally would not.

Pinty · 10/06/2025 13:53

Amae · 09/06/2025 22:49

Why would a 23 year old pay for a 16 year old to go on holiday with her and her 2 year old?

Perhaps she wants the company? Being alone with a 2 year old is hard work and can be lonely.

LillyPJ · 10/06/2025 13:50

Dancingintherainxxx · 10/06/2025 13:15

In the country where I live that wouldn't be the norm didn't realise this happened in the UK that's terrible.

Most of my friends go abroad regularly and it's pretty common, I think. But some people never have an interest in travelling, some aren't able to, some can't afford to etc. There are lots of wonderful places to visit in the UK too!

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 10/06/2025 13:40

ButteredRadishes · 09/06/2025 22:55

She 16... Not 6.

16 year olds baby sit all the time.

Edited

I think she meant going clubbing alone.

ginasevern · 10/06/2025 13:38

BIossomtoes · 10/06/2025 12:52

I was pregnant with my second child when I was 23. And I certainly knew what to do in an emergency when I was 16. Your post epitomises the ridiculous way we infantalise young people these days.

Fair enough. But personally I wouldn't leave a 16 year old in sole charge of my 2 year old child in a foreign country. There are language barriers, everything is unfamiliar and help from relatives or friends is at least a day away. What could possibly go wrong - for either of them?

OutdoorQueen · 10/06/2025 13:37

PalePinkPeony · 10/06/2025 12:17

But why after contraception failed (not sure why you would be thinking it was remotely ok to have sex at 13 or been left alone with a boy long enough but still) why did you then go on to have another at 15? Was that deliberate or another surprise?

I was on the pill (for my periods which were horrendous) but antibiotics had affected them combined with a condom that split. It was just a coincidence.
Should we have been having sex at that age, nope, but it happens.
As for being left alone for long enough with a boy, I find that utterly bizarre, teenagers will always find a way to do what they want.
Our second (and third) were planned, it wasn’t ideal but it worked for us.

feelingbleh · 10/06/2025 13:28

Op when dd and cousin spend time together, do they spend time together or does she just go out and leave her kid with dd.

FoodAppropriation · 10/06/2025 13:26

SinisterBumFacedCat · 10/06/2025 13:24

Unpaid babysitter so she can go out on the piss in Benidorm.

YANBU, you don’t know this woman. 18 yes, 16 no.

and the difference between 18 and 16 is?

"this woman" is a cousin - OP can just speak with her ex and ask him? It's his kid too.

FoodAppropriation · 10/06/2025 13:25

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 10/06/2025 12:59

This is exactly what I was thinking! Your daughter is going to be babysitting while her cousin is out finding a new baby daddy...

wow

projecting much?

SinisterBumFacedCat · 10/06/2025 13:24

Amae · 09/06/2025 22:49

Why would a 23 year old pay for a 16 year old to go on holiday with her and her 2 year old?

Unpaid babysitter so she can go out on the piss in Benidorm.

YANBU, you don’t know this woman. 18 yes, 16 no.

feelingbleh · 10/06/2025 13:20

Rewis · 10/06/2025 13:18

I can see being very iffy if it was two 16yo going together. But 16 and a 23yo family member wouldn't be a concern for me. The but for me is why is the 23yo doing this? Are they close and she just wants to? Or is your daughter going to be babysitting 24/7?

Op said they are close