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WIBU to complain about this teacher?

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ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 16:29

I know what you're thinking - no, I don't hate teachers. DH is a teacher and I used to be a teacher. But, we have a lot of ongoing issues with DS's teacher and I don't know what to do. We are/were secondary though so it's a whole different ball game. We've already raised an issue once but we tried very hard to make it not a personal issue about her - but it feels like one. I'm sorry that this will be long - I have tried to be concise but don't want to be accused of drip-feeding if I clarify things later on.

Usual story - no behavioural issues raised about DS by anyone at any time, ever. Only ever heard positive things - we are very lucky. But our concerns are growing. He's 5 and in Y1 - no issues with his teacher last year or in preschool.

Issues include:

We are absolutely certain that DS has dyspraxia. DH does. DS has almost every symptom - handwriting is illegible no matter how much he tries, and he complains his hands hurt, cannot throw or catch a ball properly, cannot walk in a straight line, cannot do steps with one foot per step, cannot skip, cannot do a two-footed jump, struggles with cutlery. DD (2) can do these things. He falls over daily, hits his head daily, struggles to open/close things, struggles to even do velcro shoes. We mentioned this to his teacher as we had parents' evening around the same time as we spoke to the GP. She agreed with everything we were saying (and we can see on the app where they upload videos that this happens at school). The GP referred to the school nurse who spoke to the teacher. The school nurse has come back to say that the teacher (who completely and totally agreed with us at parents' evening and said she sees all of these same things) had said she has no concerns at all and that she's not witnessed a single one of these symptoms.

We spoke to the school (our one complaint) because DS (who has always and adored school/nursery) absolutely hates school now. Won't get out of bed, cries the night before, cries in the car before going in. He says his teacher hates him. He says she thinks he's stupid. Some of what he says is very specific "Mrs X said [child] is smart than I am". We were very careful raising it with the school and made it more of a general "he's struggling with enjoyment" issue and didn't say anything that was accusatory or personal. We raised that he'd told us he's not good at anything (he actually said "Mrs X said I'm not good at anything") so they said they would work on that. The next day - he got four stickers (his first stickers of the year, this was just before Easter). He got one for standing in the line, another for sitting on the carpet, one for being quiet and one for answering a question (all things he's always done, and things every child would do). Then they announced he was being "celebrated" (one child in each class is chosen each week to be celebrated). Whilst this took on board what we said, and I know I sound like they can't win, it felt a bit like a "fuck you" (like if you ask a child to stop talking in class so they go on silent protest and won't even answer their name in the register). We attended his celebration assembly and his teacher didn't seem to have anything good to even say - my mum came (and I hadn't told her anything about the issues and she raised with me that she thought it was odd compared to the other children being celebrated). She also hadn't written his out for him to hold (which all the other children had). She said that the reason he was being "celebrated" was for a piece of work he'd done well on but it turns out he did that piece of work the same afternoon as the assembly (immediately before the assembly) but we were told he was being celebrated two weeks earlier. I obviously bigged up my son but it was obvious to me that she was praising him begrudgingly.

Back at Christmas, when they had their nativity, DS wanted a speaking part. All the children who wanted a speaking part got a speaking part (that was the rule) but his was the smallest one - 6 words. He was also the only child not on the stage for any of the songs and, at the end, he was the only child who didn't go on the stage to take a bow (he was ushered out with the children who bowed when his group went up to bow). He's one of the shortest children in the class and the rows were on height - except he was right at the back and completely hidden from view except for his 40 seconds on stage. I don't think this was accidental.

At the end of reception, he was in the top reading group (Big Cat Little Wandle 5.2, if that means anything to anyone). In September, he was moved all the way to the bottom reading group. We weren't told that he'd been moved and it only came out in February when we raised that he hadn't gone up a single book band since the summer. The teacher moved him up in February (at parents' evening) when we raised that he hadn't moved up but had no explanation for why he'd not progressed at all and no explanation for why he was now in the bottom group (in fact, she blamed his dyspraxia - which is why we're so confused as to why she's told the school nurse she's not seeing any symptoms). She said that his reading is behind but they won't do any intervention because "water finds its own level" and some children are simply low attainment. Our confusion is that he's been ahead and his report in July said he was ahead but, by September, she assessed that he was behind - but not just "behind", "behind and not worth trying to get back up to speed". We've now had two private assessments and both have said he's ahead on his reading and can't understand why we're concerned.

I understand that it's almost the end of the year and he'll get a new teacher soon but I'm concerned for a lot of reasons. Firstly, she'll be the one doing his phonics check and I simply don't trust her. I have two private assessments that say his reading is ahead and she's saying he can't read at all - I simply don't trust that she'll do the test fairly. Secondly, she'll be doing his handover for his next teacher and if she tells the new teacher that he's dumb as a brick then that's the perception he'll have. Thirdly, it's bordering on bullying - I've had a parent tell me she was unkind about him on a school trip (other parent was a parent helper on the trip and overheard her compare my child to one of the animals in the zoo to other children when my child wasn't there) and if she couldn't feign that she likes him for a celebration assembly, I do wonder what she's like when she thinks no one is looking. I'm also concerned because DS has a facial disfigurement (and had surgery relating to it in the summer) and I wonder if this has played a role in her treatment of him or is maybe why she's decided he's stupid.

Would you complain in this circumstance, or just wait it out? I don't want to be "one of those" but I feel like every few days there's a new incident or issue (and I've heard it from adults too so it's not just that my son is feeling a certain way).

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Sanguinello · 09/06/2025 17:40

I'm usually on the side of teachers on these posts but I agree with the majority that yanbu. It sounds like she's taken against your ds and can't be bothered with him. It sounds like she's annoyed by you too. The zoo animal comment was unkind of her and unprofessional

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 17:38

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 17:33

How did she tell you what she’s heard? Standing at school gate?

She messaged me on Whatsapp (got my number from the group).

The message says "Hi ConfusedSloth I didn't know whether to say. At [zoo] today, there was a snapping turtle with one eye missing. Mrs X said to [her child], [boy in class] and [boy in class] "ooh, doesn't he look like [DS]" and then laughed. I pulled [her DS] back and said that it isn't kind to talk about how people look or to laugh at them. I don't know if I should of said but decided I would want to know xx"

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TwoBlueFish · 09/06/2025 17:37

Have you spoken to the SENCo? It does sound personal, I would register a complaint about the zoo incident and about the fact that she’s backtracked on the dispraxia symptoms. I wouldn’t raise the nativity, there’s always favourites who get the choice parts.

DS1 has special needs and had a 1:1 in primary, his Y1 teacher basically washed her hands off him and couldn’t give any feedback at reviews. The same teacher with DS2 (no SEN) ignored him as well, she liked girls, she liked the older kids (DS2 is late August), she gave out 3 soft toys a week to come home for the weekend, my DS got one of them once (and only after I pointed it out). Luckily the Y2 teacher was much better and engaged with both my boys.

ShesTheAlbatross · 09/06/2025 17:37

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 16:46

Oh she hasn’t

this is from the mouth of a 5 year old at the end of the school day

And from a parent helper on a school trip.

justgoandgetpizza · 09/06/2025 17:36

I am not getting the impression the OP would have given the nativity the slightest thought had it not been for the numerous other things.

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 17:35

Maddy70 · 09/06/2025 17:32

Honestly apart from the reading levels everything else is fine and you are overthinking massively. The nativity concern is ridiculous. So you think they divide all words into equal amounts for each child ?
My concern would be the reading. Work on that over the summer so he's better prepared for next year

As I've said elsewhere, it's not just about the line being the shortest.

It's that:

  1. His line was the shortest
  2. He was at the back behind the two tallest children, completely obscured. He was the only child on that row.
  3. He was the only child not to bow.
  4. He was the only child not to have a song on the stage.

One of those is an oversight or life or normal, all four is not. I don't see how that happens without malice.

As I've said, he's not behind on his reading according to anyone else. He was in the top reading group when he went into this class. How could he be "better prepared"?

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Dabralor · 09/06/2025 17:34

I think that ..... I'd like to see the other side of the story.

By all means speak with the headteacher to record your concerns. Some teachers are great, others less so. Soon, it will be time to turn this page and hopefully next year will be more positive.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 17:33

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 17:31

Not that well. DS went to her house once for a playdate last year, I've spoken to her probably twice, maybe three times, at birthday parties. They went to each other's birthday parties last year (the whole class were invited to both).

The GP said the referral to the school nurse was the most efficient way to get the ball rolling.

How did she tell you what she’s heard? Standing at school gate?

PrettyPuss · 09/06/2025 17:33

OP, I think you and your dh have been far too patient here because you were teachers and don't want to be ‘that parent.’

I would be furious about the zoo comment (I am for you!) and would certainly let her know that I know about it. I would think carefully about whether it goes further but this is worrying behaviour from an adult, particularly ftom a teacher. She doesn’t sound suitable for work with children.

Maddy70 · 09/06/2025 17:32

Honestly apart from the reading levels everything else is fine and you are overthinking massively. The nativity concern is ridiculous. So you think they divide all words into equal amounts for each child ?
My concern would be the reading. Work on that over the summer so he's better prepared for next year

justgoandgetpizza · 09/06/2025 17:32

Bullying of children by teachers does happen.

It is rare but it is wrong to claim it isn’t a thing; it is.

YANBU @ConfusedSloth . I would be very uncomfortable in your situation.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 17:32

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 17:31

Not that well. DS went to her house once for a playdate last year, I've spoken to her probably twice, maybe three times, at birthday parties. They went to each other's birthday parties last year (the whole class were invited to both).

The GP said the referral to the school nurse was the most efficient way to get the ball rolling.

So presumably you’ve been back since GO been proved wrong?

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 17:31

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 17:27

How long and how well do you know this “other parent”?

and you GP referred your son to… the school nurse?!

Not that well. DS went to her house once for a playdate last year, I've spoken to her probably twice, maybe three times, at birthday parties. They went to each other's birthday parties last year (the whole class were invited to both).

The GP said the referral to the school nurse was the most efficient way to get the ball rolling.

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Newbie125 · 09/06/2025 17:30

My DS was diagnosed with dyspraxia at 7 years old, he’s now at university. In general there was very little understanding of the help he needed and he got very little support because he was seen as bright.
His school reports over the years divide very clearly into 2 distinct groups. Some teachers got him completely and had nothing but praise, others were full of criticism about his handwriting and attitude not being good. I think it’s very hard for some teachers to understand that a child can have very strong verbal reasoning skills, sounds like your son has these from his report, but really struggle with organisation, presentation etc. and they think they’re being cheeky or trying it on. I have other DC with more obvious SEN but their reports were always glowing.
Hopefully his new teacher will make more effort to see how your son really ticks and he will have a really positive start. If you are encouraging him at home and he sees his Dad as a positive role model he will learn to accept his dyspraxia as part of himself. He sounds like a delightful child with a lot to offer and most teachers will recognise his skills I’m sure.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 09/06/2025 17:27

I would ask for a meeting with the head and/or SENCO. Not as a complaint, but to highlight his struggles (dyspraxia) and his strengths (actual reading ability and the other stuff that doesn’t match) and how to move forwards with these in the next year. Tell them you’re confused about the discrepancies in her statements to you and the school nurse and between her assessment of him and what you see /his tutor sees at home. Tell them you’re more than happy to support at home and back the school up , but you’re unsure what exactly is going on. Also, that you are concerned he’ll continue to struggle and he’ll get no support for his dyspraxia due to the miscommunication with the school nurse. Ask for their support. Leave out all the other stuff out. While petty and mean , it will dilute the message and gives too many opportunities for excuses and “misunderstanding “. With only 5 weeks left, it’s incredibly unlikely any significant change will happen, so it’s best to have what happens next year as the main focus.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 17:27

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 17:24

And what about the 32 year old conveying the event where she heard the teacher making a rude comment about him?

And what about the things that I, as an adult, have seen myself?

How long and how well do you know this “other parent”?

and you GP referred your son to… the school nurse?!

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 09/06/2025 17:26

I was a teacher for 25 years. I never ever treated a child like this and neither did my colleagues.

I’m not sure the teacher has done anything wrong. And l HATED it when l assessed a child and the parent would say ‘well that’s not what xyz said’

Teachers are constantly assessing every minute of a school day. I always knew exactly where my pupils were.

Genevieva · 09/06/2025 17:25

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 17:12

Thank you - it's difficult because, when I was teaching, I know teachers had a whole spectrum of "I need to go in prepared, they've told me this kid is this way and I'll make sure I'm on that" through to "I'm barely going to read this handover because I want to meet them without any preconceived ideas about who they are". I don't know what kind of teacher he'll have - or what the handover may say.

His confidence has taken a huge, huge hit - and that's very difficult. He does play football - he's not good but he laughs it off. Because DH has dyspraxia, we know that a good way to manage it is to really train things so he does a lot of sport and has learnt a lot of good things. Socially, with his peers, he's always got on really well but that is slipping a bit.

Bless him. He’s so brave. I’m glad there’s no specific friendship issue, though any drop in confidence can affect that. I do think you should ask to meet his new teacher. It would put most of your worries to rest.

As your husband will know, dyspraxia becomes less of an issue eventually. My son never had a dyspraxia diagnosis. We never sought one, but he had a lot of those symptoms. He’s actually high functioning ASD rather than dyspraxia, but at that age he couldn’t skip, couldn’t stay upright on a trampoline, was very slow at running…. He is a teenager now and has a DASH handwriting assessment for typing in exams, but no extra time. Otherwise, you wouldn’t know. For him, music was his alternative to sport and I think that’s helped enormously with coordination. He plays it all the time. Classical, jazz, blues, rock… you name it. Several instruments. It drives his younger sister round the bend, but he’s very talented and it’s also the source of his social life.

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 17:24

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 17:23

The difference between a 10 year old conveying an event and a 5 year old…. Is substantial

And what about the 32 year old conveying the event where she heard the teacher making a rude comment about him?

And what about the things that I, as an adult, have seen myself?

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Mayflyoff · 09/06/2025 17:24

I think you need to take some of this further, but you need to split the bits that really matter out from the bits that don't.

The dyspraxia issues, I would ask for a meeting with the SENDCO and go from there.

The issues relating to underestimating his achievements and not feeling liked need to go to someone like the phase lead or headteacher. Id include the comments about the zoo animal and ask about facial difference. Whilst they will close ranks and deny them, they will be more careful about your DS because they know you will flag issues.

The nativity, I'd just leave behind you.

We had some similar issues in year 1, but not as bad. DD had two teachers, so they didn't get to know her very well. She has inattentive ADHD and dysgraphia, which weren't yet diagnosed. Their main comments were that she wasn't really paying attention and was very average academically. They seemed to find her really irritating due to the lack of attention. We were a bit confused because we'd had to do covid home learning with her and she didn't seem average to us.

We took her to an ed psych who diagnosed dysgraphia, but more importantly did a full cognitive profile, showing a bumpy, but predominantly above average profile. I think that helped her year 2 teacher understand her. Having the loveliest, warmest teacher in year 2 made all the difference to DD. It really put her back on track. We still describe that teacher as her "Miss Honey".

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 17:23

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 17:20

This is interesting - thank you.

I always got on very well at school with all my teachers except for one - my Y5 teacher - she absolutely hated me and I have no idea why. Shouted at me every day, moved me off the top table... She once made me spend my break time at "the wall" because my pencil lead snapped. Another time, I felt sick and she wouldn't let me go to the bathroom. I ended up vomiting on the floor and she told me off and wouldn't let me go to reception and said I did it on purpose. The only time my mum has ever taken my side on anything! I was in hospital for over a week with an awful virus.

As a teacher, I know I had children I couldn't stand (even when the did nothing wrong) but I would never have let that be obvious to the student, other students, parents or the parents of other students.

The difference between a 10 year old conveying an event and a 5 year old…. Is substantial

thestudio · 09/06/2025 17:23

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Why are people so awful I wonder?

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 17:20

TheignT · 09/06/2025 17:13

It happens. Happened to one of mine. Fortunately I got on well with the teacher, my older child had done well with her. I went and said I'd like a chat and she immediately said she knew it was unfair but she found him irritating, he was very marmite and all through school teachers either loved him or really didn't. She asked me to go to the Head with her and we got him moved to the other class where he was happy and did well and the teacher liked him.

Some friends were horrified at what she said but I was just grateful she was honest.

This is interesting - thank you.

I always got on very well at school with all my teachers except for one - my Y5 teacher - she absolutely hated me and I have no idea why. Shouted at me every day, moved me off the top table... She once made me spend my break time at "the wall" because my pencil lead snapped. Another time, I felt sick and she wouldn't let me go to the bathroom. I ended up vomiting on the floor and she told me off and wouldn't let me go to reception and said I did it on purpose. The only time my mum has ever taken my side on anything! I was in hospital for over a week with an awful virus.

As a teacher, I know I had children I couldn't stand (even when the did nothing wrong) but I would never have let that be obvious to the student, other students, parents or the parents of other students.

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Jabberwok · 09/06/2025 17:18

Labiabella · 09/06/2025 16:45

I'm struggling to understand why she would show such obvious dislike to a 5 year old child.

I ran an a club for our local church back in the 90s. There was a 10 year old not I absolutely detested. He was big headed, nothing else and I can usually accept that from people of all ages, but he rubbed me up the wrong way. He never knew, I treated all the kids the same. The lady who ran the club with me was surprised when I told her.

WetBandits · 09/06/2025 17:18

PrettyPuss · 09/06/2025 17:15

’she was unkind about him on a school trip (other parent was a parent helper on the trip and overheard her compare my child to one of the animals in the zoo to other children when my child wasn't there).’

She’s a horrible bully. That’s despicable.

X-post! I don’t think anyone else has picked up on it, and it’s probably the worst part of the whole post.