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WIBU to complain about this teacher?

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ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 16:29

I know what you're thinking - no, I don't hate teachers. DH is a teacher and I used to be a teacher. But, we have a lot of ongoing issues with DS's teacher and I don't know what to do. We are/were secondary though so it's a whole different ball game. We've already raised an issue once but we tried very hard to make it not a personal issue about her - but it feels like one. I'm sorry that this will be long - I have tried to be concise but don't want to be accused of drip-feeding if I clarify things later on.

Usual story - no behavioural issues raised about DS by anyone at any time, ever. Only ever heard positive things - we are very lucky. But our concerns are growing. He's 5 and in Y1 - no issues with his teacher last year or in preschool.

Issues include:

We are absolutely certain that DS has dyspraxia. DH does. DS has almost every symptom - handwriting is illegible no matter how much he tries, and he complains his hands hurt, cannot throw or catch a ball properly, cannot walk in a straight line, cannot do steps with one foot per step, cannot skip, cannot do a two-footed jump, struggles with cutlery. DD (2) can do these things. He falls over daily, hits his head daily, struggles to open/close things, struggles to even do velcro shoes. We mentioned this to his teacher as we had parents' evening around the same time as we spoke to the GP. She agreed with everything we were saying (and we can see on the app where they upload videos that this happens at school). The GP referred to the school nurse who spoke to the teacher. The school nurse has come back to say that the teacher (who completely and totally agreed with us at parents' evening and said she sees all of these same things) had said she has no concerns at all and that she's not witnessed a single one of these symptoms.

We spoke to the school (our one complaint) because DS (who has always and adored school/nursery) absolutely hates school now. Won't get out of bed, cries the night before, cries in the car before going in. He says his teacher hates him. He says she thinks he's stupid. Some of what he says is very specific "Mrs X said [child] is smart than I am". We were very careful raising it with the school and made it more of a general "he's struggling with enjoyment" issue and didn't say anything that was accusatory or personal. We raised that he'd told us he's not good at anything (he actually said "Mrs X said I'm not good at anything") so they said they would work on that. The next day - he got four stickers (his first stickers of the year, this was just before Easter). He got one for standing in the line, another for sitting on the carpet, one for being quiet and one for answering a question (all things he's always done, and things every child would do). Then they announced he was being "celebrated" (one child in each class is chosen each week to be celebrated). Whilst this took on board what we said, and I know I sound like they can't win, it felt a bit like a "fuck you" (like if you ask a child to stop talking in class so they go on silent protest and won't even answer their name in the register). We attended his celebration assembly and his teacher didn't seem to have anything good to even say - my mum came (and I hadn't told her anything about the issues and she raised with me that she thought it was odd compared to the other children being celebrated). She also hadn't written his out for him to hold (which all the other children had). She said that the reason he was being "celebrated" was for a piece of work he'd done well on but it turns out he did that piece of work the same afternoon as the assembly (immediately before the assembly) but we were told he was being celebrated two weeks earlier. I obviously bigged up my son but it was obvious to me that she was praising him begrudgingly.

Back at Christmas, when they had their nativity, DS wanted a speaking part. All the children who wanted a speaking part got a speaking part (that was the rule) but his was the smallest one - 6 words. He was also the only child not on the stage for any of the songs and, at the end, he was the only child who didn't go on the stage to take a bow (he was ushered out with the children who bowed when his group went up to bow). He's one of the shortest children in the class and the rows were on height - except he was right at the back and completely hidden from view except for his 40 seconds on stage. I don't think this was accidental.

At the end of reception, he was in the top reading group (Big Cat Little Wandle 5.2, if that means anything to anyone). In September, he was moved all the way to the bottom reading group. We weren't told that he'd been moved and it only came out in February when we raised that he hadn't gone up a single book band since the summer. The teacher moved him up in February (at parents' evening) when we raised that he hadn't moved up but had no explanation for why he'd not progressed at all and no explanation for why he was now in the bottom group (in fact, she blamed his dyspraxia - which is why we're so confused as to why she's told the school nurse she's not seeing any symptoms). She said that his reading is behind but they won't do any intervention because "water finds its own level" and some children are simply low attainment. Our confusion is that he's been ahead and his report in July said he was ahead but, by September, she assessed that he was behind - but not just "behind", "behind and not worth trying to get back up to speed". We've now had two private assessments and both have said he's ahead on his reading and can't understand why we're concerned.

I understand that it's almost the end of the year and he'll get a new teacher soon but I'm concerned for a lot of reasons. Firstly, she'll be the one doing his phonics check and I simply don't trust her. I have two private assessments that say his reading is ahead and she's saying he can't read at all - I simply don't trust that she'll do the test fairly. Secondly, she'll be doing his handover for his next teacher and if she tells the new teacher that he's dumb as a brick then that's the perception he'll have. Thirdly, it's bordering on bullying - I've had a parent tell me she was unkind about him on a school trip (other parent was a parent helper on the trip and overheard her compare my child to one of the animals in the zoo to other children when my child wasn't there) and if she couldn't feign that she likes him for a celebration assembly, I do wonder what she's like when she thinks no one is looking. I'm also concerned because DS has a facial disfigurement (and had surgery relating to it in the summer) and I wonder if this has played a role in her treatment of him or is maybe why she's decided he's stupid.

Would you complain in this circumstance, or just wait it out? I don't want to be "one of those" but I feel like every few days there's a new incident or issue (and I've heard it from adults too so it's not just that my son is feeling a certain way).

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Teenybub · 09/06/2025 19:07

I would contact school saying DS is struggling because he gets the impression his teacher doesn’t like him and we feel this is hindering his progress. As parents we have tried to encourage him and explain the teachers decisions, but he more we look at it the harder it is getting to defend as he seems correct in his feelings. They give the examples, I would put less focus on the nativity because that’s easy to brush off by saying he was nervous so we reduced his part in rehearsal.

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 19:07

Thank you @Notyomama and @Truthbetold77

I couldn't understand why so many people were being awful until I realised it was just one poster going again and again and again.

It's difficult because I don't know if it's to do with how he looks and it's one hell of an accusation to say that it is when I can't pin point it. But, I don't feel like it can be his behaviour because she moved his reading group from the top to the bottom over the summer (before ever teaching him) and it feels as though it's been ongoing ever since

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latetothefisting · 09/06/2025 19:06

Mayflyoff · 09/06/2025 18:36

Having thought about it, it seems to me that the teacher hid your son behind tall children at the nativity because of his facial difference. She clearly has an issue with it and is unable to act professionally, given the comments at the zoo. It's horrible.

yes, agree. I think it could also even explain the other stuff like the reading assessments, unfortunately it's a known phenomenon that people equate physical disabilities/difference with mental deficiencies.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 19:05

What a text means is that you have e something tangible to show the head

rather than just my DS noticed and someone told me…

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 19:03

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 19:00

Because you have drip fed info

you didn’t mention that you had a text from a school trip helper actually telling you explicitly what she heard until a few mins ago!

In the OP: I've had a parent tell me she was unkind about him on a school trip (other parent was a parent helper on the trip and overheard her compare my child to one of the animals in the zoo to other children when my child wasn't there)

The idea that it was a text from her rather than said in person suddenly changing everything from I'm a paranoid fantasist liar making teachers leave in droves to a lazy checked-out parent who doesn't bother caring about her child is ridiculous.

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Notyomama · 09/06/2025 19:03

I would add that I used to teach children with disabilities, some of whom had visible differences, and it seems that some people have an irrational dislike of people with who look different, almost like a phobia. They react in an angry way, maybe because they know their response is unacceptable but they can't control it? Regardless, it is no excuse and someone who can't treat people fairly shouldn't be a teacher.

Truthbetold77 · 09/06/2025 19:01

Ignore that poster, they are on here to bully and upset. Anyone who ever went to school knows there are good, average and absolutely shit teachers. Not unlike in other jobs.

Notyomama · 09/06/2025 19:00

You're better off ignoring people like Nosetotoe OP. Answering back doesn't do anything.

I used to be a primary teacher and I admit there were a couple of children I really didn't like. I was very careful not to show it though and no one seemed to notice.

It sounds like there's two things going on here - the teacher doesn't like your DS and she doesn't like that you're noticing. Some people double down on behaviour when they know they're caught.

Unfortunately I don't think there's much you can do at the moment. I'd wait it out, see what happens with his next teacher and move him if things don't improve.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 19:00

Because you have drip fed info

you didn’t mention that you had a text from a school trip helper actually telling you explicitly what she heard until a few mins ago!

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 18:59

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ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 18:58

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Respectfully, you've posted over a dozen times now accusing me of lying, paranoia and now apparently not doing enough. I don't particularly want your opinion on any part of this.

You've gone from telling me nothing is happening and it's "quite telling" that I "even think it" to analysing every tiny little part of my posts (this is the only message I have from the other mum because DH organised the playdate, if that's ok with you). You've troll-hunted on the GP referral, the playdate, the message and everything else. And now, after all that, you're telling me how awful I am for not having done enough...

You decided from your very first comment that you had an issue - your issue has gone from I'm complaining about nothing, to I'm inventing the whole thing, to I've not done enough. It's pretty clear you won't be impressed no matter what I do.

And no, he's 5 and in Y1, which means he's nearly 6. But you keep thinking you've caught me out because you haven't read the posts properly.

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Truthbetold77 · 09/06/2025 18:56

As for reading- you know he's above where he should be. They do throw "comprehension" excuse around as you as a parent can do nothing to disprove it as you aren't in their reading assessments (although this lazy excuse for a teacher probably doesn't do assessments either).

As for the phonics test, you are correct, she's someone who'd definitely help a child she dislikes fail (may be by just rushing him or indeed marking down if no witnesses) but there is usually a different member of staff doing it.

She's absolutely horrible but not unusual- thank God foe all those statutory assessments we whine about - a protective factor against a slacker teacher like that.some would do no work quite happily but the statutory assessments they are at least somewhat judged on protect against freaks like that.

Redburnett · 09/06/2025 18:56

I feel very sorry for you and your DS given what you have said. But not all primary teachers are really capable of understanding every issue concerning every child in their class of (typically) 30 pupils. It sounds as though she is one of them. Instead of raising a complaint so near the end of the school year you would do better to help and encourage your DS at home and look forward to a new class teacher next year.
My DC did not do well in the KS1 SATs (does anyone else even remember those?). DC is now in a professional job that is very competitive to get into. Please do not expend too much energy worrying about things happening at age 5.

singingirl · 09/06/2025 18:54

I have to disagree with some here - I absolutely think you need to advocate for your child here and go and see the headteacher. It might be wise to start with what others have said, and lots of positives that you appreciate about the school, then raise your issues about the current teacher and your anxiety about him getting an undeserved reputation going forward.

I agree with some, that these things do happen but the teacher does need to learn how to be more professional in her approach and not let her personal feelings show, and absolutely, the zoo issue is not ok. I think the incidences could be viewed as petty taken separately, but actually, these little things have added up to a litany of problems. So I would encourage you to raise it.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 18:53

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Truthbetold77 · 09/06/2025 18:49

It sounds like she's got it in for him. Sadly some people go into teaching so they specifically can exercise power and control over small children, have an outlet for their controlling character and mistreat and mess with children's learning. It does attract some oddballs. There are also plenty of teachers without malice who are just not good or competent. And for many it's the only job they could get and last resort but they don't like kids or only like the compliant needy teacher pleasing affectionate ones (not recognising that such needless and affection comes from abuse and neglect at home and not because they are an amazing teacher).
Clearly there is a pattern of unacceptable behavior towards your child and a lack of professionalism.
Some p posters who are mocking you clearly aren't posting in good faith .
There is usually some on each thread.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 18:49

You have gone back to the Gp
and? A new referral?

and That was only a couple of weeks ago.

so you’ve been sitting on this definitive evidence for a couple of weeks and done squat all?

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 18:47

Sorry - doing bedtime.

Yes, we've gone back to the GP.

No, not raised with the school about the trip. That was only a couple of weeks ago.

MN is a funny place. For each thing, I was considering how good the evidence was and how much it impacted DS. So, the trip comment was low on the impact scale because he doesn't know about it and I thought you'd all say "it's just a rumour from a busybody, it's not evidence" (whereas, with the nativity, he noticed that he was sidelined (he'd asked to be a narrator and was told no because he was one the year before and they can only do it once - fine, fair enough, but then two other narrators this year were also narrators last year. He noticed that and was upset) and I can prove he was at the back, didn't bow, etc).

I don't feel like the one-off incidents are my big issue and I understand it sounds petty. I didn't list everything in the OP because it was already very long but it's how they all add-up to a bigger picture. But, I'm concerned about being "that parent" or laughed at or considered neurotic. If I go in without very solid evidence I think they'll blow me off but if I go in with very solid evidence then they'll think I'd looking for a problem - I'm not sure how to be taken seriously.

And to the PP that's confused about why there's a thread full of people with opinions on this, it's because most parents care about supporting their child and then being happy. It's not hard.

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latetothefisting · 09/06/2025 18:45

MrMucker · 09/06/2025 18:16

I'm finding this thread quite surreal.
Assuming we all want the best for this child, it's all been about measuring, assessing, valuing, grading, comparing what they can allegedly do.
And disgruntlement about how they have been graded and called and measured and assessed. And because of this, complaints and disagreements and interpretations of teachers being motivated by dislike. It's surreal.
When I was parenting I just concerned myself with doing all I could at home to support my child's learning and packing them off to school to let the school do the same.
I find it surreal that any parent puts a pause to this process to complain when they could be ignoring assessments and outcomes and just focus on doing as much as they can to contribute to their child's learning.
Surreal.

what part of the teacher specifically mocking a 5 year old child's disability to other children on a school trip is "all about measuring, assessing, valuing, grading what they can do"?

Simonjt · 09/06/2025 18:39

Labiabella · 09/06/2025 16:45

I'm struggling to understand why she would show such obvious dislike to a 5 year old child.

Teachers are like anyone else, there are a small number who are just nasty people. Our son had an awful experience in his first term of reception, I was constantly brushed off, his teacher refusing to use his radio was explained away, as was not letting him do PE or take part in mini sports day. It was only resolved when his class teacher replied to an email I had sent, she accidentally replied to me and the class TA rather than just the TA. In the email she said awful things about him, mocked his disability and used extremely offensive language regarding a disability he doesn’t actually have, an offensive word used to describe someone who has cerebral palsy. The other teacher (job share) was brilliant, she genuinely couldn’t have been better.

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 18:38

Nosetotoe · 09/06/2025 17:42

And you have shown the school this explicit evidence?

Op?

You have explicit evidence. Have you shown the school?

have you been back to the GP following the nurse’s action?

Mayflyoff · 09/06/2025 18:36

Having thought about it, it seems to me that the teacher hid your son behind tall children at the nativity because of his facial difference. She clearly has an issue with it and is unable to act professionally, given the comments at the zoo. It's horrible.

Bushmillsbabe · 09/06/2025 18:27

ConfusedSloth · 09/06/2025 16:54

Thank you - yes, comprehension was covered in the private assessments (as a distinct part commented on) and he scored highly on that as well. The teacher couldn't tell us what he wasn't doing well enough when we asked - just that she would move his book band up.

The GP said the waiting list for an OT is long so the most efficient thing is to refer through the school nurse because they get stronger evidence for a quick referral and the school can implement a plan immediately instead of waiting for an EHCP. The teacher told us explicitly that she sees all the same things we see at home and then told the school nurse that she sees no symptoms at all.

Referral forms to OT are often 3-4 pages long and takes ages to complete - they get so many referrals that they ask for a lot of detail to be able to establish which are and are not valid. They don't get prioritised based on who has referred, but by concerns raised, but being so long, the GP probably hasn't got time to complete so wants school nurse to do it.
Some areas take parent referrals- ours does, with a different but equally lengthy form.

MrMucker · 09/06/2025 18:16

I'm finding this thread quite surreal.
Assuming we all want the best for this child, it's all been about measuring, assessing, valuing, grading, comparing what they can allegedly do.
And disgruntlement about how they have been graded and called and measured and assessed. And because of this, complaints and disagreements and interpretations of teachers being motivated by dislike. It's surreal.
When I was parenting I just concerned myself with doing all I could at home to support my child's learning and packing them off to school to let the school do the same.
I find it surreal that any parent puts a pause to this process to complain when they could be ignoring assessments and outcomes and just focus on doing as much as they can to contribute to their child's learning.
Surreal.