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NHS refusing treatment to child who attends private school.

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floralcarpets · 09/06/2025 15:21

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/boy-denied-treatment-nhs-hospital-private-school-kingston-richmond-b1231805.html

AIBU to think this is disgraceful? The mum is likely paying loads of tax which goes towards the NHS and pays for state schools, yet her child is this treatment which they sound like they desperately need.

Outrage as boy, 8, refused NHS treatment 'for going to private school'

Mother blames Labour's VAT raid on private school fees for emboldening the NHS to deny her son help with his crippling joint condition

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/boy-denied-treatment-nhs-hospital-private-school-kingston-richmond-b1231805.html

OP posts:
cardibach · 09/06/2025 18:02

I’ve asked MN to edit the title, OP. It’s so misleading as to amount to misinformation. Nobody is being denied NHS treatment, as your linked article clearly says, but people are still joining the thread thinking they are.

Kirbert2 · 09/06/2025 17:59

LBFseBrom · 09/06/2025 17:54

I think it's outrageous. Presumably the parents pay tax, contribute to the NHS so the family is entitled to treatment the same as anyone else.

They need to go through the NHS such as a referral from their GP as they have opted out of their LA providing anything for their child and they can't have it both ways.

Jasp3ru · 09/06/2025 17:59

Bananafofana · 09/06/2025 17:49

No, we could not go to our GP. Or rather we did, and they said nothing to do with them - all the responsibility of the council’s children’s services department who arranged specialist services via the councils schools.

We’re solicitors and checked the regs - they were right, completely stitched up. Thought of retraining as a specialist education lawyer but I think I’d find it too frustrating.

https://www.nhs.uk/tests-and-treatments/occupational-therapy/

Yiu should have gone to a different GP

godmum56 · 09/06/2025 17:58

LBFseBrom · 09/06/2025 17:54

I think it's outrageous. Presumably the parents pay tax, contribute to the NHS so the family is entitled to treatment the same as anyone else.

`they are but only via NHS provided services, not through LEA provided services

Jasp3ru · 09/06/2025 17:56

LBFseBrom · 09/06/2025 17:54

I think it's outrageous. Presumably the parents pay tax, contribute to the NHS so the family is entitled to treatment the same as anyone else.

Which they can access via their GP

Londonmummy66 · 09/06/2025 17:55

This is not a new thing. My DD was able to access clinic based help for dyspraxia but the OT wouldn't do a school visit as she was at a private school and this was about 15 years ago.

feelingbleh · 09/06/2025 17:54

Yabu for only reading the headline and not the article and then spreading misinformation online

LBFseBrom · 09/06/2025 17:54

I think it's outrageous. Presumably the parents pay tax, contribute to the NHS so the family is entitled to treatment the same as anyone else.

Kirbert2 · 09/06/2025 17:53

FairKoala · 09/06/2025 17:41

What about those who have to Home Educate because otherwise the children would receive no education

When my son got tutored at home, he received OT and physio at home too. This was because he wasn't quite well enough to be in school after a hospital stay though, not because he was home educated.

CoffeeCup14 · 09/06/2025 17:52

OT services are not all the same. You can access OT through CAHMS if it would be useful. But you'd only get this if you were open to CAHMS and it was felt to be beneficial. If you needed OT for a different reason, you'd get it via a different route and it would address different issues.

Commissioned services can feel very unfair. A mental health charity could be commissioned to provide targeted support. So if you live in a particular post-code area, you might get fast-tracked over someone with equal need but a different post-code. The agreements are very specific about what services are being delivered and who to.

Bananafofana · 09/06/2025 17:50

Oh dear - that was supposed to quote the poster who said we could have gone to our GP (not quote my own post!)

Bananafofana · 09/06/2025 17:49

Bananafofana · 09/06/2025 17:40

I’m glad the issue is getting publicity. It’s not a new thing - 10 years ago my dd no longer could get her teacher of the deaf (a council post for children with a variety of forms of deafness) visits once she turned 5 because she was at a private school. Nor could her OT or SALT visit her in school. We had to pay privately for OT and SALT but teacher of the deaf is not something you can access privately; I took it to my (Labour) MP who couldn’t care less.

We could have got the visits if we had an EHCP but the wait list for our borough was 2 years and they rejected 90%. We didn’t have the mental capacity to cope with that and spent what we would have spent on an education lawyer on paying for the private intervention.

No, we could not go to our GP. Or rather we did, and they said nothing to do with them - all the responsibility of the council’s children’s services department who arranged specialist services via the councils schools.

We’re solicitors and checked the regs - they were right, completely stitched up. Thought of retraining as a specialist education lawyer but I think I’d find it too frustrating.

ghostyslovesheets · 09/06/2025 17:48

Such a non story! She can’t access a commissioned school service for state schools but she can access it via GP referral!

I work for a virtual school and we commission lots of services from our budget including mentoring, tuition, ed psych assessments, art/play therapy and more - it’s only for OUR kids even though they will be in state schools.

godmum56 · 09/06/2025 17:44

FairKoala · 09/06/2025 17:41

What about those who have to Home Educate because otherwise the children would receive no education

I think that's going to vary from place to place.... LA's do not have to provide funding for home schooling BUT NHS OT services can be provided on NHS premises or in the child's own home where the NHS has got a community service in place.

Jasp3ru · 09/06/2025 17:44

Bananafofana · 09/06/2025 17:40

I’m glad the issue is getting publicity. It’s not a new thing - 10 years ago my dd no longer could get her teacher of the deaf (a council post for children with a variety of forms of deafness) visits once she turned 5 because she was at a private school. Nor could her OT or SALT visit her in school. We had to pay privately for OT and SALT but teacher of the deaf is not something you can access privately; I took it to my (Labour) MP who couldn’t care less.

We could have got the visits if we had an EHCP but the wait list for our borough was 2 years and they rejected 90%. We didn’t have the mental capacity to cope with that and spent what we would have spent on an education lawyer on paying for the private intervention.

You could have gone to your GP. My dd never had her SALT or OT in school it was always outside of school and via the GP.

Vinvertebrate · 09/06/2025 17:42

Morningsleepin · 09/06/2025 16:59

I'm a firm believer in the wealthy being taxed to the hilt and then being entitled to all the public services.

We are being taxed to the hilt, but the services are still not fit for purpose.

FairKoala · 09/06/2025 17:41

Dotjones · 09/06/2025 15:35

I love the irony of the mother claiming there's a "two tier system" given that's exactly what private v state education is. If you take a child out of state education there are pluses and minuses, you can't cherry pick the best of both worlds. If you want state school healthcare you have to accept the lower standard of education that state schools provide.

What about those who have to Home Educate because otherwise the children would receive no education

Bananafofana · 09/06/2025 17:40

I’m glad the issue is getting publicity. It’s not a new thing - 10 years ago my dd no longer could get her teacher of the deaf (a council post for children with a variety of forms of deafness) visits once she turned 5 because she was at a private school. Nor could her OT or SALT visit her in school. We had to pay privately for OT and SALT but teacher of the deaf is not something you can access privately; I took it to my (Labour) MP who couldn’t care less.

We could have got the visits if we had an EHCP but the wait list for our borough was 2 years and they rejected 90%. We didn’t have the mental capacity to cope with that and spent what we would have spent on an education lawyer on paying for the private intervention.

Pinty · 09/06/2025 17:40

Occupational therapy services for children in state schools is funded by local authorities. It was been like this since 2014 and became law as part of the Children and Families Act.
Local authorities do not fund private schools so obviously they won't pay for therapeutic services in private schools. Either the private school should commission and pay for it or the parent should go to the GP and get a referral to the GP that way.
The story is so misleading it would be unbelievable if it wasn't the Daily Mail .

ArtTheClownIsNotAMime · 09/06/2025 17:32

People should have to take a critical thinking test before accessing newspaper articles. Or starting Mumsnet threads.

lifeonmars100 · 09/06/2025 17:31

The story is more complex that the headline suggests, it is always worth looking at a variety of news sources and doing a bit of fact checking

Kirbert2 · 09/06/2025 17:31

The saying ''you can't have your cake and eat it'' comes to mind here. You can't opt out of state funded school and then demand the LA to still provide services for the child.

Nothing is wrong here.

Jasp3ru · 09/06/2025 17:27

godmum56 · 09/06/2025 17:21

yes but not in a private school unless the private school funds it.

Schools fund and buy into different things. If you want this particular service you go to a school that buys into it. If not you go to your GP. PhilippaGeorgiou explains it well. It’s a total non story with woeful journalism.

godmum56 · 09/06/2025 17:25

Keepgoing2022 · 09/06/2025 17:18

There is 2 different it services when it comes to children
one who will deal with things Iike home equipment / adaptions etc which is actually mainly through social services and then children have one who will see them at school past the age of 5. Before 5 st the developmental centre which assess things that fine motor skills / gross motor skills etc

i know. BUT NHS funded therapists only see children in their own homes/home environment or on NHS premises. Therapists who go into schools are either employed by the LA or their services are purchased by the LA for use on LA educational premises ie Local Authority schools.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 09/06/2025 17:22

Findra · 09/06/2025 16:47

Paid For by the Local Authority or anyone else, it’s still a non-education public service that the local authority is only providing to those that go to state schools. Now if private school pupils can still access this service from the GP that’s fine, but if the state is providing no free access to this healthcare service to those at private school then can we agree that that is wrong?

There are so many pupils being failed by the state system whose parents choose private as a last resort. We are penalised by the state system letting us down by having to pay for the alternative schooling, and the BVAT on that alternative schooling. We shouldn’t have to pay for certain healthcare services too.

Let me help you out here, and then I am finished with this. It is a Local Education Authority. The LEA is responsible for funding services to state funded schools. It does not have any responsibility for funding services in private schools. Everyone is entitled to access an LEA funded service - they can send their children to an LEA funded school. If you want access to an NHS service - which this is not, it is a school service - then you speak to your GP and if they consider it appropriate they will make a referral, and the NHS will then decide whether to provide that service or not.

I dispute this is not an educational service. Occupational health is similarly not an "employment service" yet lots of employers have OT services. Many of them bought in from the NHS exactly as this has been. If your employer provides OH services for employees, they aren't going to squeeze your husband, who works for an entirely different employer, in because you think it isn't fair his employer hasn't got one. It is exactly the same.