NHS refusing treatment to child who attends private school.

I think they should be available to all pupils as they are a tax paid for service, not directly accessible for schools without referral to a specialist setting. Therefore they are not part of the standard service, I would expect from a private school.

Can they though? I suspect not.

Which private schools can also commission. Nothing is stopping them.

If an NHS service is commissioned by the council then it is still an NHS service.

its not an NHS service. Its a service purchased by the Council/LEA. The NHS do provide services to other comissioners. The income made in this way goes back into local NHS services.

As a retired OT can I correct you? This aspect of Occupational Therapy can be placed under the umbrella of education. Occupational Therapy as a profession does all sorts of things in all sorts of places.

OT is classed as education, especially if it is to help a child attend school and advise any adaptations if necessary.

Yea and what we are saying is NHS services shouldn’t be ringfenced depending on the type of school you go to. That’s crazy. One id healthcare, one id education. Two totally different services.

Education funding is not ring-fenced and is part of the general council allocation. It is not based on children attending state schools.

Yea and what we are saying is NHS services shouldn’t be ringfenced depending on the type of school you go to. That’s crazy. One id healthcare, one id education. Two totally different services.

Yea and what we are saying is NHS services shouldn’t be ringfenced depending on the type of school you go to. That’s crazy. One id healthcare, one id education. Two totally different services.

It's paid for by the LEA. Ring fenced for those who attend state school.

Private schools are free to pay for it themselves.

I think this is it. It's rare / bordering impossible to got OT at school. You normally need it via a EHCP which in itself is like pulling teeth out. My dd has OT at state school via her EHCP. But it basically is the OT saying dd doesn't engage and never passing info onto me unless it's in a yearly report after the fact.

It not easy to access and open to all and fundamentally what they offer is normally very very weak. Like speech therapy. What your offered and what you need isn't the same. It's watered down to get you back off the books in my personal experience

As we didn’t opt out of any NHS services whatsoever in choosing a private school!

I don’t believe your hypocrisy. Two scenarios, one parent, millionaire, lives in a £2 million house, attends state school , ofsted outstanding, academically excellent, gets free school breakfast. Scenario 2, average wage, average house, child been failed by state school or local state school poor. No free school breakfast. Parents opt for private but it’s a struggle financially. Both children need OT and SALT input, one gets it for free, the other not and according to you the poorer family are hypocrites for asking for the same services as the richer family. OT and SALT services are in different circumstances provided within NHS hospitals. They are health related issues, the funding just happens to be via education. A cost cutting exercise from the Tory government no doubt.

Education funding is not ring-fenced and is part of the general council allocation. It is not based on children attending state schools.

It's paid per child attending a state funded school in the area, not on per child existing in the area - and even it were to be changed, it wouldn't make that much difference because nobody knows for sure how many children live in an area.

Remember the stuff about 'Ghost children' post covid? That's because there is/are/were no complete records of children educated outside state schools.

Going by some of the posts here, I'm half expecting one of them to demand that their children are driven to school by people who have motorbility vehicles on the grounds the PIP is funded through taxation and it's not fair that somebody who has received money for mobility difficulties has then used it to lease a vehicle when the poor higher rate taxpayer's child has to make their own arrangements.

It looks like a misleading headline and I haven’t read all the responses. However -

a) At my local hospital’s paediatric unit, they always ask where your child attends school. Mine are at a private school and I have detected some raised eyebrows at this. I had an awful experience with one particularly awful doctor who I had the misfortune to encounter as my eldest was being diagnosed with epilepsy, which was a terrifying time. She was awful for many reasons and one of them was her barking at me ‘well you can always leave and go private’ when I dared to question something she said.

b) forgive me if this has been addressed but I don’t think the NHS services in schools exist solely in state schools? The NHS nursing teams come into our school to administer injections (eg HPV).

The LEA has no budget for private school pupils. It loses an average of £6k for each child removed from an LEA controlled school.

It is exactly the opposite - if a child goes private the LEA saves ~£6k that it receives in funding that no longer needs to be spent on education.

Can I have a tax rebate for the tax I pay that goes towards providing OT, SALT etc in state schools so I can give it to my private school to commission these healthcare services? No I thought not. So these services should be provided free of charge to all pupil, obviously!

My son is in state and has OT. His situation was pretty extreme though and involves major rehab.

The NHS pays for vaccinations for all children. However this OT service is not paid for by the NHS but by the local education authority as a commissioned service for its own local authority schools. The LEA has no budget for private school pupils. It loses an average of £6k for each child removed from an LEA controlled school. As others have said, state educated kids can’t just rock up to the local private school to demand to use its facilities, and vice versa. To access NHS services, the child must go through their GP.