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To think these people are toxic?

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WartFace · 09/06/2025 09:13

Newbie/lurker here hoping for clarity:
I’ve always felt uncomfortable around my bil. For a long time I blamed myself. My ds and I have a shared interest in a small property. We decided to sell and bil offered to do the marketing. He was rather casual about the whole thing and I found out that he’d failed to tell me something crucial. I lost my temper and said some fairly spiteful things to my ds. I know I should have kept calm and dealt with him directly but I didn’t.
She was incredibly angry with me and the whole thing escalated, leaving me utterly stunned. She took the opportunity to tell me everything I’ve ever done wrong, largely acts of omission plus a few made up offences. I tried and tried to defend myself but she wouldn’t hear me. I went nc for a while and felt better but we agreed to get back in tentative touch. Now she writes me letters every so often, as if nothing was ever said, very newsy and friendly but superficial. I’m very confused. What do people think? I’d be grateful for any perspective you have, thank you all!

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WartFace · 09/06/2025 09:20

Swiftie1878 · 09/06/2025 09:16

Hmmmm. Hard to tell from the scant details, but I’m inclined to think that you were in the wrong here, and could potentially be the ‘toxicity’ you’re looking for.

I should have said that I apologized the following day for what I’d said. She then told me what I’d meant by what I’d said: basically, that I’d accused him of dishonesty. I certainly hadn’t - hadn’t even thought of that.

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DifficultEggs · 09/06/2025 09:20

And no, I don’t think either of them is ‘toxic’, though the term is essentially meaningless pop psychology. It’s a predictable family fallout that could have been avoided by paying someone to market the property professionally.

DifficultEggs · 09/06/2025 09:18

This is why you don’t hire family, or use their professional services — too much potential for upset at errors, poor work etc. And, as you did, losing your temper about them to someone who then takes their side.

I’m not sure what you’re confused by. You admit to losing your temper being spiteful about her DH, she got angry in turn, brought up some times when you were at fault from your shared past, you were NC for a while, then decided to get back in ‘tentative touch’. She now contacts you periodically with news in a friendly but superficial way — what is it that you were expecting? A rehash of the original argument? What do you want?

Swiftie1878 · 09/06/2025 09:16

Hmmmm. Hard to tell from the scant details, but I’m inclined to think that you were in the wrong here, and could potentially be the ‘toxicity’ you’re looking for.