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DH has upset our eldest following their relationship break up

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HanTalks · 08/06/2025 17:16

Our eldest DS has been in a relationship for the past two years, which ended suddenly this week. I am not overly clear on the details and am trying not to ask him too much at the moment.

DH never liked his girlfriend (not that our DS knew this), and found her hard work in terms of her being a bit quiet (possibly shy) and not someone who made a great deal of conversation when at ours for meals etc.

Anyway, at the dinner table last night DS was quiet and gave a blunt answer to a question I asked him about his day.

DH then said to him ‘cheer up son, you’ll be better off without the stuck up cow’ and suggested he goes out with his mates to find a ‘local tart’ to cheer him up.

DS walked off from the table and has refused to speak to DH since.

DH is refusing to apologise and said he needs tough love at his age now. I’ve told DH he was out of order and should have been more sensitive especially given we don’t know the full circumstances.

AIBU for disagreeing with my DH here?

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 08/06/2025 19:51

HanTalks · 08/06/2025 18:15

I did ask him what he meant - someone teetering around in heels wearing next to nothing in a night club was the description…

He's revolting

How can you bear to look at him?

BeenzManeenz · 08/06/2025 19:51

HanTalks · 08/06/2025 18:15

I did ask him what he meant - someone teetering around in heels wearing next to nothing in a night club was the description…

This is a very misogynistic way to speak about women, it's extremely concerning.
This is the part I'd be worried about.

It is a derogatory way to describe women, based on the way they dress or how sexually liberated they are. Sounds like bloody Andrew Tate at the dinner table.

Your DS is right to be pissed off, and I hope he knows better than to listen to his sexist dad.

Americano75 · 08/06/2025 19:50

Sodthesystem · 08/06/2025 17:21

Ick.

Is he Jays' dad from The Inbetweeners?

That's literally what I was about to post!

SharpLily · 08/06/2025 19:46

You can't honestly expect anyone to say you're unreasonable and that your husband makes some good points? Seriously, you must know how repulsive he is?

You're asking the wrong questions. The only question you should be asking yourself at this point is how quickly you can push a divorce through.

Lolapusht · 08/06/2025 19:40

How old is your son?

I’m not in the slightest shocked that the son of a man who decides his son needs some tough love isn’t good at talking about his feelings.

I’ve come to the conclusion that the majority of men are absolutely clueless when it comes to child-rearing, relationships and anything even remotely emotive. Tough-love = not showing your emotions so I don’t have to deal with them. Instead of dealing with the heartbreak of a relationship ending, go and get drunk and shag the local tart. Jesus, no wonder men are emotional cripples If this is what they’re taught.

It’s never too late to teach your children how to communicate about their emotions. If they’re boys, they need to know that vocalising feelings doesn’t make them less of a man.

Your son doesn’t need tough love, he just needs love. Go give him a hug.

Herewegoagain84 · 08/06/2025 19:38

Guavafish1 · 08/06/2025 17:21

Insensitive but I don’t think it meant any harm.

Harm to who is the question. Says a lot about his view of women don’t you think?

llizzie · 08/06/2025 19:36

HanTalks · 08/06/2025 17:16

Our eldest DS has been in a relationship for the past two years, which ended suddenly this week. I am not overly clear on the details and am trying not to ask him too much at the moment.

DH never liked his girlfriend (not that our DS knew this), and found her hard work in terms of her being a bit quiet (possibly shy) and not someone who made a great deal of conversation when at ours for meals etc.

Anyway, at the dinner table last night DS was quiet and gave a blunt answer to a question I asked him about his day.

DH then said to him ‘cheer up son, you’ll be better off without the stuck up cow’ and suggested he goes out with his mates to find a ‘local tart’ to cheer him up.

DS walked off from the table and has refused to speak to DH since.

DH is refusing to apologise and said he needs tough love at his age now. I’ve told DH he was out of order and should have been more sensitive especially given we don’t know the full circumstances.

AIBU for disagreeing with my DH here?

My late husband was a lot older than me. He was a vicar. On one occasion when he put the phone down, he said Mr. so-and-so had died and they asked him to arrange the funeral. I asked what he died of, and he said he doesn't know, he didn't ask.

He said if people wanted him to know they would tell him voluntarily.

Wait for someone to tell you something in their lives. They will tell you when they are ready - if they want you to know.

Sasha07 · 08/06/2025 19:32

Local tart and his description is vile. So someone who dresses like that is up for it with anyone? Is he going to find 'a local tart' to get over you if you ever break up? I wouldn't be having that talk, especially infront of the kids.

SlaveToMyFanny · 08/06/2025 19:31

God, that's revolting. I'd be so annoyed if DH spoke to DS about women like that.

Ddakji · 08/06/2025 19:29

I’m slightly staggered that you need to come to MN to know the answer to this, @HanTalks. And that you have a DD too.

JLou08 · 08/06/2025 19:28

Stuck up cow and local tart is disgusting, misogynistic language. If someone spoke that way around my sons I'd be fuming. What a fabulous male role model. I wonder if your DH had anything to do with the GF deciding to end things. If that kind of language was normal in the family of a man I was dating, I wouldn't want to be settling down with him.

sprinklesandshines · 08/06/2025 19:27

zeebra · 08/06/2025 19:24

I cant imagine not liking someone because they are shy or quiet. They are hardly negative personality traits. The son probably likes more introverted people after having an opinionated Dad. I am sure the poor girl will of picked up on the father's beliefs as judging by what he said, I cant imagine he is sweetness and light the rest of the time. The poor girl has had a lucky escape.

I had a girl mate who’s mum took against me because I was so shy. It happens. At school I was shy and people called me rude.

thepariscrimefiles · 08/06/2025 19:27

Your husband sound like an unpleasant character in a 1970's sit-com. What a crude, insensitive and misogynistic comment.

NotAnotherOne1234 · 08/06/2025 19:26

Is your husband's name Bernard Manning?

I vote LTB (my first after 20 years on MN)

Aren't you embarrassed by your husband?

sprinklesandshines · 08/06/2025 19:26

Edit: I realise now she wasn’t an arsehole, I presume your husband is a. An arse or B. Can’t think of something bitchy to say RE her.

he sounds like Jay’s dad off inbetweeners talking about Chloe lol

sprinklesandshines · 08/06/2025 19:24

Dads can be tactless w stuff like this (RE saying stupid cow if the girlfriend was genuinely cruel and horrible, my dad has said my exes are arseholes during breakups) but I couldn’t get over the tart comment. Probably his clumsy attempt at laddish humour but you need to tell your husband privately that it’s disrespectful and inappropriate.

zeebra · 08/06/2025 19:24

I cant imagine not liking someone because they are shy or quiet. They are hardly negative personality traits. The son probably likes more introverted people after having an opinionated Dad. I am sure the poor girl will of picked up on the father's beliefs as judging by what he said, I cant imagine he is sweetness and light the rest of the time. The poor girl has had a lucky escape.

MerryPortas · 08/06/2025 19:23

Your husband is a misogynistic arsehole

downtownlights · 08/06/2025 19:23

Oh the absolute worst kind of British man. Thinks he’s Jack the lad and still the man, old now but never lost his disdain for women or his potty mouth. Thankfully your DS has a better attitude. I can imagine he’s had enough of his father for other reasons too if that’s an example of how he speaks. I just wonder how you all put up with him. And also why you started a thread, wonder what you thought people would say! have you OP put up with this so long you think this is what all men are like?

Butchyrestingface · 08/06/2025 19:23

namechange55465 · 08/06/2025 19:14

"DH never liked his girlfriend (not that our DS knew this)"

Oh trust me your DS absolutely knew this.

I'm sure it was as obvious as sky-writing to the girlfriend too.

thestudio · 08/06/2025 19:22

You husband is a vile misogynist.

That is the fucking problem.

Poor DS and even more, poor DD.

Have you only just discovered his views on women OP?

Butchyrestingface · 08/06/2025 19:21

DH then said to him ‘cheer up son, you’ll be better off without the stuck up cow’ and suggested he goes out with his mates to find a ‘local tart’ to cheer him up.

So fucking glad I'm single.

I wonder if this poor girl had the size of your husband, hence her tomb-like silence at family get togethers.

NeedToChangeName · 08/06/2025 19:18

Guavafish1 · 08/06/2025 17:21

Insensitive but I don’t think it meant any harm.

Well I'd hate to see what he says when he intends to be offensive

Cucy · 08/06/2025 19:16

Poor kid growing up in a house with that as a role model.

He’s broken up with his girlfriend and instead of getting support (or even just not talking about it) he gets the most idiotic response ever and he apparently needs ‘tough love’.
What a charmer your DH sounds.

candycane222 · 08/06/2025 19:15

HanTalks · 08/06/2025 18:15

I did ask him what he meant - someone teetering around in heels wearing next to nothing in a night club was the description…

Ugh, are you really OK with someone talking about women like this? - never mind in front of your children. He's disgusting.

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