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I felt like I got shut down in a weird way by my DIL

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TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 01:29

I'm wondering if I dropped the ball with my DIL. I took my son to a baseball game recently because he’s been under a lot of pressure with work and he’s an awesome dad and I wanted to give him a bit of a break and my DIL felt like I should've offered to watch the baby so they could've gone on a date. She mentioned feeling like she's always solo-parenting and I didn't help them out as a couple. She said she felt she supports my son by raising my granddaughter saving the family money and giving my son piece of mind that she is in good hands with her mother and it’s not easy work doing this 24/7 as my son gets to leave his job but a SAHM never gets to “clock out” not to mention she handles all of the household tasks of the daily running of the household another less thing my son has to worry about it and she felt I overlooked that and only saw my son’s contributions to the family.

Now she's asked me to watch the baby next week for some me-time. Should I have thought of that date-day opportunity for them? How can I better support them both? I feel awful that my DIL feels I was just supporting my son while overlooking her as that wasn’t my intention at all. I guess as the grandmother I should be looking at it through the lens of supporting the family unit as a whole and not just focus in on supporting my son. I’m glad my DIL felt comfortable enough with me to express her hurt feelings and concern rather than harboring resentment towards me.

However AIBU to be a bit annoyed deep down that a kind gesture I did towards my son individually was basically shut down?

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Ottersmith · 08/06/2025 03:14

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 02:30

I think she was hurt I treated my son and didn’t reciprocate and do the same for her bc we are close so I think it caught her off guard. I apologized to her and I just texted her asking if I could take her out to lunch sometime soon

But you aren't her Mother. I suppose all DIL / MIL relationships are different, but no way would I want a 'girly' day with my MIL. I think she imagined is shopping together etc but she isn't my Mother. You should be able to take your son out whenever you want. If him being away on a Saturday annoyed her then she could have arranged a day where he minds the kids while she goes out and has a break. Can you imagine him getting annoyed with her Father because he takes her out for the day and doesn't take him out to do man things together? Too much pressure is put on the MIL / DIL relationship in my opinion. It's a bit sexist because men aren't expected to have the same relationship. Are you in America? Maybe that's why this is such a close relationship. Maybe there are different expectations there.

copi1ot · 08/06/2025 03:14

I agree. I’m now a grandmother and I should be focusing on supporting both parents and the family unit as a whole. I did apologize to my DIL

I am so confused as to why you started this thread let alone how it’s continued so long.

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 03:11

IkeaMeatballGravy · 08/06/2025 03:08

YANBU you ask the person you are taking out and that person discusses it with thier spouse surely? Would DIL's mother discuss plans with OP's DS before taking her out? Of course she wouldn't! If my mum asked permission from DH to take me out I would find it a bit odd to be honest, I'll ask DH if he is OK to take the DCs.

DILs issue is with her DH, if she needs him to step up she needs to discuss that with him, if she wants OP to do more babysitting than she is already doing she needs to ask her. Not tell her off for wanting to do something nice with her child every so often.

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It’s that I didn’t do anything with her as well. They are both parents who should be treated equally. If I acknowledge my son’s role I should acknowledge my DIL they are a family unit and married. I apologized to my DIL and offered to take her to lunch next Saturday. My son got a reprieve so should she. She didn’t tell me off she expressed her feelings to me instead of harboring resentment. She spoke openly to me about her feelings which is what family does

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TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 03:09

MatLeave · 08/06/2025 03:06

I think you did a nice thing with your son. He checked that there would be childcare.

You already look after the little one monthly and seem like you're happy to do care for your grandchild more often if required.

Don't beat yourself up about it. You're a decent mother looking after your sons welfare. Your daughter in law gets a lot of help from her parents so nothing to worry about.

My DIL was hurt though I didn’t acknowledge them together because parenting is a team effort I only recognized my son’s role in his family. I should be recognizing my DIL as well she is my DIL and the mother of my GC. My son is a grown man I guess checking on his welfare is a bit much for people who do the exact same thing everyday millions. I did apologize to my DIL and to even things out I offered to treat her to lunch on Saturday. My son got a day out a reprieve so should she.

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IkeaMeatballGravy · 08/06/2025 03:08

YANBU you ask the person you are taking out and that person discusses it with thier spouse surely? Would DIL's mother discuss plans with OP's DS before taking her out? Of course she wouldn't! If my mum asked permission from DH to take me out I would find it a bit odd to be honest, I'll ask DH if he is OK to take the DCs.

DILs issue is with her DH, if she needs him to step up she needs to discuss that with him, if she wants OP to do more babysitting than she is already doing she needs to ask her. Not tell her off for wanting to do something nice with her child every so often.

MatLeave · 08/06/2025 03:06

I think you did a nice thing with your son. He checked that there would be childcare.

You already look after the little one monthly and seem like you're happy to do care for your grandchild more often if required.

Don't beat yourself up about it. You're a decent mother looking after your sons welfare. Your daughter in law gets a lot of help from her parents so nothing to worry about.

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 03:00

Ponoka7 · 08/06/2025 01:38

I'm a grandmother. Most people I know would have offered to babysit and got them a couple present. The best thing would be to support their relationship. You got it wrong, it says a lot that she can be honest with you, though.

I agree. I’m now a grandmother and I should be focusing on supporting both parents and the family unit as a whole. I did apologize to my DIL

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TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 02:57

RosesAndHellebores · 08/06/2025 02:54

I do too. I think "MIL" is defending DIL and criticising herself too much.

I don’t think I’m wrong to want to spend time alone with my son. But it’s the day I chose and not thinking about the affect it would put on my DIL and cutting into their limited time together. Also if I’m offering to treat my son for being a good father I should be treating my DIL for being a good mother which I apologized for and I offered to take her to lunch. It’s not the spending alone time with my son I think I’m wrong for it’s day day I chose and how I went about it and not even thinking about the affect on my DIL.

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TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 02:55

Tourmalines · 08/06/2025 02:49

This

My DIL is hurt about the reason I gave my son a reprieve and left her with the baby alone again not to mention they have very limited immediate family time so by not inviting my DIL and GD I took her husband away from her on the limited time they have. I also didn’t recognize her hard work and her role in the family only my sons which as a feminist we all know how much it sucks having the mother taking for granted while elevating the father. I apologized to my DIL and offered to take her out for lunch next Saturday

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RosesAndHellebores · 08/06/2025 02:54

Incakewetrust · 08/06/2025 02:36

Why do I get the feeling that this is a reverse? 🤨

I do too. I think "MIL" is defending DIL and criticising herself too much.

Tourmalines · 08/06/2025 02:49

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 08/06/2025 02:32

That’s the father’s responsibility not the OP’s.

OP, you’re a mil so are the default spawn of satan on here.

Contrary to the MN narrative, you are entitled to spend time with your son, and given you said you do babysit regularly it’s not as if you’re not an involved grandparent.

You did nothing wrong.

This

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 02:47

TheRoseDeer · 08/06/2025 02:35

It does not sound so bad. I cannot believe this couple gets help from both sides and there is complaining. This is coming from someone who has a toddler at the moment and never had help from either side, ever.

When MIL visits as a guest and I have prepared the food, play the role of hostess and looking after DC because MIL doesn’t play with DC (she only has ability to lift a coffee cup filled with coffee I made), she makes a fuss how amazing of a dad DH is and says this in cards or gives DC a book that is from a dad’s point-of-view.

I’m privately a little eye-rolling because realistically, I do most of the load and work full-time. But I smile and say what lovely presents. I’ve never had anyone from my parents or MIL tell me what a great role I am doing. I think there is an element that is taken for granted when a mum.

I have also told MIL she’s a great mum and grandmother so she feels warm and fuzzy. But I stopped that since I never get any acknowledgment as a DIL, DH’s wife or a mum to her grandchild.

I realised at the end of the day, MIL doesn’t need to include me in her report card of who is doing a good job.

And I don’t want to make that same mistake with my DIL. Taking for granted what she does as a mom while elevating my son up on a pedestal for what he does. I’m also a self proclaimed feminist and here I am doing the opposite by praising a father for doing what is expected of him and taking the mother for granted

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TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 02:44

RosesAndHellebores · 08/06/2025 02:37

Come now. When we had a six month old baby, admittedly 30 years ago now, staying at home and playing was much much easier than dh's 12 hour, high pressure days. So he got some him time, he used to go to football anyway on Saturday afternoons and I never minded because he needed it. I got a lie in on Saturday mornings.

I really don't think the OP did anything wrong.

Meh my DIL is right it’s shitty to acknowledge the hard word of one parent. Ar keeps my son goes home and gets a break from work she doesn’t get a break from being a mother and I didn’t acknowledge my DIL’s hard work not to mention during the very limited time they have as an immediate family I cut into that. I should have invited them all out or acknowledged my DIL’s hard work. I just texted her apologizing again and offered to take her to lunch next Saturday

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TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 02:42

AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 08/06/2025 02:32

That’s the father’s responsibility not the OP’s.

OP, you’re a mil so are the default spawn of satan on here.

Contrary to the MN narrative, you are entitled to spend time with your son, and given you said you do babysit regularly it’s not as if you’re not an involved grandparent.

You did nothing wrong.

Looking back, I realize I didn't think about how my actions would affect my DIL. Taking my son to a baseball game was meant to celebrate his hard work, but it ended up adding to her childcare responsibilities and taking away from her limited time with her husband. She's right; parenting is a team effort, and I shouldn't overlook her contributions. I'm glad she spoke up and expressed her feelings. To make amends, I offered to treat her to lunch and let her know I value and appreciate her role in the family. I learned a valuable lesson about considering the impact of my actions on everyone involved, especially as a grandmother and mother-in-law. To view how it would affect the whole family unit and not just focus in on my son. To embrace my new role as grandmother

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anon4net · 08/06/2025 02:37

I am also going against the grain.

Many adult daughters see their parents individually. Why any different?

Sounds like the two of you going out is very rare and normally you baby-sit? Is this a one off? Surely a mother can go to one game/match with her adult child without being made to feel they've done wrong? Especially when that grandparent baby-sits (for free I'm presuming?) monthly so that her son & DIL can go out? I think DIL is taking her own frustration out in the wrong place.

RosesAndHellebores · 08/06/2025 02:37

Come now. When we had a six month old baby, admittedly 30 years ago now, staying at home and playing was much much easier than dh's 12 hour, high pressure days. So he got some him time, he used to go to football anyway on Saturday afternoons and I never minded because he needed it. I got a lie in on Saturday mornings.

I really don't think the OP did anything wrong.

Incakewetrust · 08/06/2025 02:36

Why do I get the feeling that this is a reverse? 🤨

TheRoseDeer · 08/06/2025 02:35

It does not sound so bad. I cannot believe this couple gets help from both sides and there is complaining. This is coming from someone who has a toddler at the moment and never had help from either side, ever.

When MIL visits as a guest and I have prepared the food, play the role of hostess and looking after DC because MIL doesn’t play with DC (she only has ability to lift a coffee cup filled with coffee I made), she makes a fuss how amazing of a dad DH is and says this in cards or gives DC a book that is from a dad’s point-of-view.

I’m privately a little eye-rolling because realistically, I do most of the load and work full-time. But I smile and say what lovely presents. I’ve never had anyone from my parents or MIL tell me what a great role I am doing. I think there is an element that is taken for granted when a mum.

I have also told MIL she’s a great mum and grandmother so she feels warm and fuzzy. But I stopped that since I never get any acknowledgment as a DIL, DH’s wife or a mum to her grandchild.

I realised at the end of the day, MIL doesn’t need to include me in her report card of who is doing a good job.

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 02:33

2cats1dog2babies · 08/06/2025 02:31

Whilst I voted you were being unreasonable the more I've read the more I can see it from all sides. As much as having a baby is a transition for the parents, it's also a transition for the wider family, especially those that play a role in their relatives every day lives. I think it's lovely she was able to approach you with how she was feeling and also lovely that you're already thinking of ways to makes things better both for your daughter in law and the family unit.
They're very lucky to have you and her parents.

Thank you so much! Yes! I realize I messed up and that my son isn’t the only one working hard I should be acknowledging them as a team and I just texted my DIL to see if she wants to meet for lunch

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AnyoneWhoHasAHeart · 08/06/2025 02:32

SoWhat21 · 08/06/2025 01:42

Did you at least check with your DIL that she was available to look after your grandchild? Or did you just expect her as the default parent to be there to provide childcare while you and the other parent went out having fun? Was there any appreciation that her time was required in order to facilitate this treat for your son?

That’s the father’s responsibility not the OP’s.

OP, you’re a mil so are the default spawn of satan on here.

Contrary to the MN narrative, you are entitled to spend time with your son, and given you said you do babysit regularly it’s not as if you’re not an involved grandparent.

You did nothing wrong.

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 02:32

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/06/2025 02:30

You took your son out on a Saturday.
That means your DIL was looking forward to some weekend time for herself, while your son looked after the baby. Presumably he works Mon to Fri.

But you took him out instead!
No wonder she's annoyed.

Right she did mention that to me as well. She said they only get time the 3 of them on the weekends and not only did me rewarding and treating my son cut into their time as a family but it also made her do the solo parenting thing again and also cut into time that could be used where I babysit and they have a date day so they could have time as husband and wife

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2cats1dog2babies · 08/06/2025 02:31

Whilst I voted you were being unreasonable the more I've read the more I can see it from all sides. As much as having a baby is a transition for the parents, it's also a transition for the wider family, especially those that play a role in their relatives every day lives. I think it's lovely she was able to approach you with how she was feeling and also lovely that you're already thinking of ways to makes things better both for your daughter in law and the family unit.
They're very lucky to have you and her parents.

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 02:30

HeyWiggle · 08/06/2025 02:22

You’re fine to spend 1:1 time with your son but no need to dress it up as a reward for something. You could always take your son and grandchild out together to give your DIL a break. She clearly needs some respite and likely feels unseen.

I think she was hurt I treated my son and didn’t reciprocate and do the same for her bc we are close so I think it caught her off guard. I apologized to her and I just texted her asking if I could take her out to lunch sometime soon

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 08/06/2025 02:30

You took your son out on a Saturday.
That means your DIL was looking forward to some weekend time for herself, while your son looked after the baby. Presumably he works Mon to Fri.

But you took him out instead!
No wonder she's annoyed.

TheWisePearlRaven · 08/06/2025 02:24

RosesAndHellebores · 08/06/2025 02:15

Going against the grain here as a MIL, although not as a grandma yet.

You babysit once a month for them, DIL's parents baby sit every couple of weeks. That's pretty good going imo.

I'd say that if DIL wants an afternoon away from the baby she could have a jolly with her mum whilst your DS babysits.

I think your DIL's being a bit bratty and entitled to be honest. My DIL has daughter time with her family; similarly DS occasionally has son time with us. Sometimes when they are in London DS will come to us Fr/Sat and she'll go to her parents and either DS will go to theirs on the Saturday or she'll come to ours.

Well I’m close to my DIL and it was prob the principle for her that I’m taking my son out bc he works hard and she was thinking what the hell his hard work is acknowledged and not mine parenthood is a team effort. Why does he deserve a break and I don’t when I’m home with a young baby all day long and taking care of the household. I’m really happy she felt comfortable enough with me to be honest about her feelings

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