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To think this is fair if we are not married?

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10064a · 07/06/2025 17:30

dp and I had a baby relatively quickly after a year of dating. Although unplanned we were both happy as we wanted dc and both late thirties at the time. Our daughter is now 2 and during this time she has lived with me while my DP has moved round for work (medical). He’s recently secured a permanent post and has suggested I move to him with dd. This would be four hours from where I am based and would mean I would have to find a new job. The reality is that while I would be able to find a job in time, I would need probably 6-12 months to help dd settle into a new home and to find my feet in a new area.

The predicament… DP earns more than me but I still make 4K a month. He transfers 1,400 to me a month for nursery and general costs. My mortgage is 1k a month and other expenses around 300. Would it be reasonable to agree to do the move on the basis he still makes the 1,400 payment so I can keep my home ticking over while 1. We establish living together and 2. I find a job locally in the new area? A further part of me feels he should contribute to my pension for this time too as it’s me making the move and therefore the financial sacrifice and risk.

I think dd would benefit massively by living all together and that in the long run I would probably have a less stressful existence…at the moment I am doing everything mon to Fri for dd with work as dp lives so far away.

For context I don’t think either of us feel ready for marriage and I don’t think it’s reasonable to force that as a condition to moving in together.

I’d appreciate any thoughts on this!

OP posts:
5amisthenew7am · 09/06/2025 07:39

I can see why you’re considering this and I think it can work as long as you mitigate the risks as much as possible. This means securing a job before you go, or finding a role you can do remotely. Renting out your house instead of selling it. Would contracting be an option rather than looking for a permanent role?

EndlessTreadmill · 08/06/2025 22:58

DepositSaverUpper · 07/06/2025 17:39

It's not going to take 6m to settle a 2 year old in a new nursery / house.
Find a job first maybe delay start date by 4 weeks.
People move and start an new job all the time simultaneously

This! You look for the job, and the nursery, then move and stagger the start date of the job by a month. 6 months to settle a 2 year old? Hardly! Couple of weeks.
Also, you seem to completely overlook the huge advantage to your daughter of having her parents together. At the moment, she is living like the child of divorced parents. Fast forward a few years, and she will hate having to split her time, etc. This is the absolute best thing you can do for her, and I would have thought for yourself (don't you love DP?), you sound incredibly cold (and short sighted).

Catwhispereroo · 08/06/2025 22:38

This is ridiculous. What is wrong with these men? Where to even start?

BlueFlowers5 · 08/06/2025 22:33

Could you rent your house out? Have a buffer for if it doesn't work out?

MeandT · 08/06/2025 22:21

Can't quite get over the cocklodger/money grabbing comments. Are you all for real?!?

OP has been raising their child as a single parent for 2 years, while the mobile sperm-donor flits around the country focussing on nothing but furthering his career, while contributing just 20% of his earnings to raise his own child.

Then has the audacity to set up a permanent base 4 hours away from where his child is already well established, then call in 'I think we should have a stab at living together'!

No, it's not in any way unreasonable that he continue to make financial contributions to the arrangements OP!!! Potentially you could dress it up differently - you plan to rent your place out, take the net earnings from that for 3-6 months as savings/security/relocation buffer to cover you in the event that it all goes tits up & you have to move back there again. Then all other household costs in the shared place get split pro-rata to your take-home salaries (after student loan repayments). Your rent goes back in the household pot once your moving buffer is built up - of if he owns the new place, you keep your rent as he's building his own equity.

Agree with most that you should line up a job to move to though. Very sketchy without.

Also, these arrangements are almost the least important thing you haven't spoken about! What about wills, custody of DD in event of death of either of you, life insurance/pension names parties for each other, who will cook, clean & taxi in a shared house. Is he working research 9-5, or hospital shifts including weekends? Who will take leave when DD is sick in new arrangement & you're removed from current network, building Bradford Factor in a new job, and you're in a town DP has arbitrarily chosen for the next X months convenient to his career development? When will the next move be? Where to?

It definitely feels like the onus on the 8 hour round trip should be on him for a while yet, until:

A your relationship is grown up enough to have ALL the above conversations, plus whether a civil partnership would be a more secure & appropriate arrangement under which you could make such a move

B he's had enough 8 hour round trips to spend time with the child he created to properly contemplate why in the name of dog he didn't look for a permanent role closer to where they lived in the first place if either of you are actually important to him?

TwinklySquid · 08/06/2025 21:48

I wouldn’t give up my life for a man who hasn’t shown much commitment to me.

What’s the long term plan if marriage isn’t the goal?

croydon15 · 08/06/2025 19:39

You sound just money grabbing taking 6 to 12 months, totally bu l feel sorry for your DP.

Genevieva · 08/06/2025 18:55

10064a · 07/06/2025 18:21

@summerscomingsoon what if he’s defensive and says I’m giving an unfair ultimatum? That means we live in limbo as we currently are or the relationship ends…

Or you discover he’s not a keeper before you uproot your life. This helps you focus on your own life with your child where you live. You then meet someone else who is prepared to treat you as an equal partner, merry you and raise a family together.

TanyaMcQuoidHunt · 08/06/2025 18:24

There is no way on this planet that I would give up my job to move in with someone who I wasn't married to. Taking 6-12 months out of a "competitive" industry with no safety net would be unwise. You could struggle to find a job and he could get bored of paying you money to ensure you live near him.

dustygrey · 08/06/2025 18:15

10064a · 07/06/2025 18:21

@summerscomingsoon what if he’s defensive and says I’m giving an unfair ultimatum? That means we live in limbo as we currently are or the relationship ends…

Well then that shows him to be someone who won't support you.

Don't make a stupid move. Get a job, then move if you still want to

Worndownbyit · 08/06/2025 18:00

How do you think military wives cope? I understand you've got your own job/home/life but surely you should have thought about this before you had your child?

pikkumyy77 · 08/06/2025 12:07

Of course if they were married her asset would become his so if he were “giving her money for the mortgage “ he would just be gaining an asset (or his child would) rather than just “giving her money.”

Perfectly sensible for a married couple to decide to spend money on an asset like a flat or house. Perfectly sensible for an unmarried woman to keep hold of an important asset like proper. Perfectly reasonable for a person with high income to subsidize the lower or at risk partner for some time—provided they love that person and don’t regard them as a servant or flight risk.

YourWildAmberSloth · 08/06/2025 09:19

10064a · 07/06/2025 17:45

@dustygrey i wouldn’t be paying my way. I’d be making the financial sacrifice to enable DP to keep his job and have us all together

His contribution/financial sacrifice would therefore be supporting you and being the sole provider for your child. Nothing wrong with that, but I think you would be unreasonable to expect him to also give you £1400 on top to keep your other home ticking over - he would effectively be paying for you twice. You could rent out your current home.

JLou08 · 07/06/2025 23:37

I'm curious as to why you don't feel ready for marriage? Do you not see having a child together as a bigger commitment?

OneAmberFinch · 07/06/2025 23:32

pikkumyy77 · 07/06/2025 22:40

Why should she uproot herself and “give it her all?” Her dd has a workable set up right now. Why would moving in with this casual partner be better?

Well that's my point - either he's a casual partner in which case don't uproot your life, or he's the husband you committed to and who is willing to make joint sacrifices with you. It seems from OP that she does want to do the joint sacrifices thing (he funds her career break, she quits her job) so it's very odd to me to say that marriage isn't something they're ready for... when it's the legal institution explicitly designed for the setup she says she wants

Icanttakethisanymore · 07/06/2025 23:11

Is there a reason he hasn’t tried to find a job where you live? Did you say you’d be happy to move across the country? What’s his plan if you don’t agree?

eta - do you love him?

LimitedBrightSpots · 07/06/2025 23:10

OneAmberFinch · 07/06/2025 21:04

"I don't feel ready for marriage but I'm planning to uproot my life, sell my house, quit my job, depend on my partner financially for expenses for 6 months while we establish family life... oh and we have a 2yo daughter"

What else do you think marriage is?! It doesn't get much more interwoven than that! The divorce paperwork would be the easiest bit to sort!

Your instincts to bring your family together are sound. You should move and give it your all to make it work. But don't play this halfway game where you have all the dependence and none of the security. Either keep your independence and tiptoe in, or commit properly and share the load.

What if she 'gives her all' and it doesn't work and she no longer has a stable home and life for her child?

StarCourt · 07/06/2025 23:04

@10064a what is it that you actually really truly want ?

Canshehavewaferthinham · 07/06/2025 22:51

RomanCavalryChoir · 07/06/2025 17:39

Good, far too many women screw themselves over in situations like this by not being transactional enough.

This always baffles me on here. Talking about practicalities and finances in relationships? 'OP you've no emotion. This is about love, do you love him? Do you?!''

Talking about wanting to live together/marry/take any relationship to any next level because they she's feeling something and is happy?

'You're mad OP. Have you thought about the practicalities? Finances? What about XYZ situation? Love isn't everything y'know!!'

pikkumyy77 · 07/06/2025 22:40

OneAmberFinch · 07/06/2025 21:04

"I don't feel ready for marriage but I'm planning to uproot my life, sell my house, quit my job, depend on my partner financially for expenses for 6 months while we establish family life... oh and we have a 2yo daughter"

What else do you think marriage is?! It doesn't get much more interwoven than that! The divorce paperwork would be the easiest bit to sort!

Your instincts to bring your family together are sound. You should move and give it your all to make it work. But don't play this halfway game where you have all the dependence and none of the security. Either keep your independence and tiptoe in, or commit properly and share the load.

Why should she uproot herself and “give it her all?” Her dd has a workable set up right now. Why would moving in with this casual partner be better?

SlieveMiskish · 07/06/2025 22:37

Rent your house?

GabriellaMontez · 07/06/2025 22:23

Yanbu. It's such a weird site sometimes....

Women who haven't thought through the practicalities are sneered at.

Then a poster comes along, trying to protect herself and her daughter and still people aren't happy.

Whatsthestoryo · 07/06/2025 22:15

I think you need to consider more OP that you can ask this and he can say yes. But without the wedding band, you could be up shit creek at a moments notice as he will hold all the power and be able to renege on all agreements at any time.

Itcantbetrue · 07/06/2025 22:00

OP he should be offering this to you come and live with me take as much time as you want to settle in etc

Itcantbetrue · 07/06/2025 21:59

Shes choosing not to get a job quicky because she thinks it will take 6 month's to settle in her daughter.

Others DC settled into new environments fast that doesn't mean ops will or that she should take that chance

I find these financial discussions so cold when both parties make plenty of money but the idea is that, that doesn't matter she doesn't matter because it's got to be financially fair (????) and therefore the two years old shld go into care.

Why do some people bother having DC

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