Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Stretch the truth to avoid going out to dinner

84 replies

Ruggerlass · 07/06/2025 15:58

I’m supposed to be meeting friends in a couple of days for dinner. I’ve found out the restaurant that is booked has a hygiene rating of 1. I really don’t want to go. My predicament is should I be honest and say why I don’t want to go and risk upsetting friend who’s booked it or stretch the truth to keep the peace. I should say friend is not particularly fussy where she eats.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
summerscomingsoon · 09/06/2025 21:08

Just tell them what you've said here.

Can't be bothered with friends who won't just ge honest. We are adult women not teenagers.

Ruggerlass · 09/06/2025 21:03

ChocolateGanache · 09/06/2025 20:46

Where are these ratings from re: hygiene op?

from the government government’s food hygiene rating website

OP posts:
Ruggerlass · 09/06/2025 20:59

daisychain01 · 09/06/2025 20:36

how immature. She's doing you a favour by showing you who she is.

Id be tempted to send her a response such as "just to be clear, my decision has no bearing on the fact that you organised it. It is on the basis that I prioritise my health. It's ridiculous that you've taken offence but that's your decision"

I replied saying my intention was not to
upset her and I was sorry if I had. I said it wasn’t personal but just something I routinely do if it’s somewhere I’ve not been before or for a while

OP posts:
ChocolateGanache · 09/06/2025 20:46

Where are these ratings from re: hygiene op?

daisychain01 · 09/06/2025 20:36

how immature. She's doing you a favour by showing you who she is.

Id be tempted to send her a response such as "just to be clear, my decision has no bearing on the fact that you organised it. It is on the basis that I prioritise my health. It's ridiculous that you've taken offence but that's your decision"

BuckChuckets · 09/06/2025 20:35

Ruggerlass · 09/06/2025 19:39

Just an update. Seems my honesty has backfired. I received a message from friend today saying she’s been thinking about it and she’s dumfounded as that’s not something she’d dream of doing anytime and especially if a friend had organised it. I explained it’s not personal but something I just routinely do. Anyway I feel I may now be struck off the Christmas card list 😀

If I were your friend I'd be thanking you for warning us all!

LaughingCat · 09/06/2025 20:29

Ruggerlass · 09/06/2025 19:39

Just an update. Seems my honesty has backfired. I received a message from friend today saying she’s been thinking about it and she’s dumfounded as that’s not something she’d dream of doing anytime and especially if a friend had organised it. I explained it’s not personal but something I just routinely do. Anyway I feel I may now be struck off the Christmas card list 😀

Seems perfectly normal to me - if I looked up a restaurant a friend had booked to see the food they do and saw some negative reviews about the food quality, I’d then want to see what a recent inspection said. Your friend should be thanking you!

Ruggerlass · 09/06/2025 19:39

Just an update. Seems my honesty has backfired. I received a message from friend today saying she’s been thinking about it and she’s dumfounded as that’s not something she’d dream of doing anytime and especially if a friend had organised it. I explained it’s not personal but something I just routinely do. Anyway I feel I may now be struck off the Christmas card list 😀

OP posts:
TheChosenTwo · 09/06/2025 13:34

MoistVonL · 09/06/2025 08:31

@TheChosenTwo - I suspect there is a strong correlation between those of us who have worked in catering/hospitality and the people who check food hygiene ratings!

Going through the inspection process and knowing the sort of things that give you a rating as low as a 1 or 2 certainly makes a strong impression.

Getting a 1 doesn’t mean everyone who eats there will be ill, obviously. It just increases the odds. A lot.

Oh I totally agree with you, not on my radar and that’s not going to change now!!

But yes, with a group size as large as ours and ordering the type of food we did, discovering the food hygiene rating was 1 we had expected some repercussions and there were none! We actually went back there later on that week 😂

I’ve seen schools fail their ofsted reports on careless approaches to paperwork filing, not a reflection on the quality or content of teaching so I suppose I tend to take all these ‘very important and serious reports’ somewhat casually.

MoistVonL · 09/06/2025 08:33

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER and @OneFineDay13 - your local council or here:

ratings.food.gov.uk

MoistVonL · 09/06/2025 08:31

@TheChosenTwo - I suspect there is a strong correlation between those of us who have worked in catering/hospitality and the people who check food hygiene ratings!

Going through the inspection process and knowing the sort of things that give you a rating as low as a 1 or 2 certainly makes a strong impression.

Getting a 1 doesn’t mean everyone who eats there will be ill, obviously. It just increases the odds. A lot.

OneFineDay13 · 09/06/2025 06:46

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 08/06/2025 10:57

Am I the only one who’s never checked the hygiene rating of anywhere we were planning to eat? 😮

Me either! How do we check ?

SleepingStandingUp · 08/06/2025 23:53

I'm shocked you'd consider bowling out and knowingly let your friends eat there without warning them. Are they actual friends??

Emmz1510 · 08/06/2025 21:43

Take some screenshots of those reviews and send to your friend with something like

’ooft maybe this isn’t the best idea for a place to eat tomorrow? How about x or y instead?’

Im afraid nothing is worth risk food poisoning, especially not fear of offending a tricky friend!

daisychain01 · 08/06/2025 19:21

For a rating of 1 it must be a burger van on a rat-infested industrial estate.

no way would I spend a penny piece on a restaurant with that low a rating,

and I'd question the friends you're hanging out with if (a) they choose skanky places for their friends and (b) you don't feel comfortable being honest with them about how grossed out that is,

suki1964 · 08/06/2025 12:54

bluesinthenight · 08/06/2025 10:37

Someone told me that a rating of 4 is often down to the establishment not having the correct paperwork by the time of the inspection., Is that incorrect?

correct

You can have all the procedures in place but if the paperwork is not up to date or incomplete, you will be marked down

stclementine · 08/06/2025 12:45

No way would I eat at such a place! Suggest somewhere else or ditch the idea. Your stomach will thank you.

Bumcake · 08/06/2025 12:45

You’ve done the right thing OP. I’m fairly relaxed about these things but a 1 is terrible.

SingWithMeJustForToday · 08/06/2025 12:44

Sunshineaftertherain1 · 07/06/2025 17:51

Sorry, what I meant to ask was if a takeaway would also be closed down if it had a 1 star rating for over 2 weeks. As ours has had a 1 star rating for 6 months!

Its the only one that delivers to us but even I refuse to eat there anymore.

Nothing is closed because it scores 1 - just look online, there's plenty of places open and operating despite being scored 1 months and months ago.

TheChosenTwo · 08/06/2025 12:40

@MoistVonL im someone who has never looked up a food hygiene rating! I’m surprised so many do.
we once piled into a restaurant down on the coast, end of December and 24 of us on holiday. Right towards the end of lunchtime service, was pretty full but people were clearing out and they said they’d feed us. Lovely warm pub, staff friendly and welcoming etc. 24 of us ate mostly Seafood, mussels, vongole sort of stuff. Really tasty. Went outside and spotted the food hygiene rating in the window - it was a 1!!!! No one was ill, perhaps they’d already addressed the issue but we had no problems.
I’ve never checked a rating in advance but glad op has spoken up instead of going along with it unhappily.

MoistVonL · 08/06/2025 12:33

I just tell people, “sorry, guys, it’s got a food hygiene rating of 1 so that’s a no from me.”

Lots of people never look up hygiene ratings, especially for takeaways, and are obvious. My best friend uses her local Thai place and had no idea is was a 2. She didn’t realise they were listed on the council’s website.

Bananafofana · 08/06/2025 12:32

I’ve voted YABU as you were thinking of lying to get out of it. No need to lie - just be up front! It’s a disgusting pit! If you friend “goes off” then possibly not really a friendship worth cultivating

Createausername1970 · 08/06/2025 12:32

No need to stretch the truth.

Hi Friend, I was checking Chez Skank on-line to have a look at the menu and I see it has some pretty grim reviews and a very poor hygiene rating. Is this definitely the place you meant, as I don't want to go.

How about Chez Not-So-Skank down the road?

Echobelly · 08/06/2025 12:28

I'd just say 'I'm really looking forward to seeing you guys, but I looked up this place and it has a terrible hygiene rating, can we look at somewhere else instead? Don't want anyone to get food poisoning!'

Flipslop · 08/06/2025 12:27

nomas · 07/06/2025 16:01

YANBU to not want to go. You should be 💯 be able to tell her that you don’t fancy eating at a restaurant that’s only 1* rated for food safety.

If she gets upset at such a stupid thing, then I would end the friendship.

Do you generally find her controlling / dominant?

jesus Christ this is such an overreaction 😂 the friend who booked might not even be aware of the rating. Surely to god a simple ‘just spotted the restaurant has only a 1 star hygiene rating 😬 yikes, shall we book somewhere else’s’ if the others still want to go, crack on and join the next outing