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Cancelling the kids plans because he's thrown a wobbler, aibu?

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Tulipsdaisy · 05/06/2025 21:47

Me, my boyfriend and our respective children (not shared) were supposed to be going away this weekend, from Friday until Sunday evening. Plans were finalised. I made arrangements for somebody to house sit for me and take care of my dog, paid in advance. They moved their schedule around to accommodate me.

Background: together just shy of 16 months. We don't live together. I'm a lone parent of 2 and he has 50/50 joint custody of his 2 with his ex wife. DC introduced at the 12 month mark and get along great. Lovely.

At 9pm this evening he has text saying he needs a break, wants a weekend to himself and would rather do 'no kids' so he's asking his parents to babysit.

I said he was bang out of order springing this on me this late and asked what on earth the matter was.

He said nothing is the matter he has just had enough of his child's attitude. His DC doesn't deserve the trip, he wants a weekend to himself, he's going to bed and 'tomorrow is a new day'

My response to that was: "Well you have a nice sleep, now you've offloaded that onto me and I now have to explain to my (relative dog sitter) and inevitably upset children. Thanks a bunch"

He read that and didn't reply.

He has obviously had some cheek from his DC and now we all have to pay the price. His DC aren't badly behaved, a little bit cheeky now and then but not bad kids whatsoever.

I'm both angry and sad. He hasn't given any thought to everybody else impacted by his wobbler. It's fuck the lot of us.

I'm £50 down the drain (I'm not going to ask for for the dog sitting money back, the relative sitting for me really needed the money and jumped at the chance)

I have to explain to my DC tomorrow morning that it isn't going ahead and they're going to be so disappointed.

There has been some prior instances of him arsing about with existing plans but I don't think I can move past this one as it directly impacts the children.

AIBU to think he's a nasty, selfish dick? And what on earth do I say to the children?

OP posts:
Wreckinball · 06/06/2025 10:13

I’d go as the kids are looking forward to it, but I’d end the relationship afterwards in the next few days. He sounds a bit unstable and reactionary, it’s not a sound platform on which to blend your boys with. I’d not trust him or his true motives if lashing out and upsetting everyone is his go to position.

diddl · 06/06/2025 10:12

Wouldn't the kids be more upset if they go & he makes it to be a shit weekend?

Op only you know if that's likely.

tripleginandtonic · 06/06/2025 10:09

Just go anyway without him. Don't upset your dc.

SailingWonder · 06/06/2025 10:09

I think its good to base your decision on what you think your kids will prefer, but I wouldn't ask them. They're too young to arbitrate on adult rows.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 06/06/2025 10:08

Tulipsdaisy · 06/06/2025 08:48

I've had a response:

"Good morning. I apologise for last night stress got the better of me. DS2 has somehow managed to delete my docs on the ipad and I'm on a tight deadline for Monday. Let's keep plans as they are, I will have to play catch up in the evenings."

Your thoughts?

Edited to add from a follow on text, he said DS2 has done it on purpose in retaliation for being told off.

Edited

Nah.

I would end this now. To use the old trope “if someone shows you who they are, believe them”.

He has no care for you and your kids. He could have rang you and explained the situation from the get go but he doesn’t respect you. He is only backtracking now because you have pulled him up on it.

Move on with your life OP, it’s no way to live.

ClairDeLaLune · 06/06/2025 10:08

I would accept his apology and still go. What his kid did was pretty bad, I could see why he’d be stressed and furious. You need to have a chat with him though about the impact his actions have on others, and how you and your kids didn’t feel very important to him when he did that.

Keepingittogetherstepbystep · 06/06/2025 10:08

What do you think your kids would want to do. Ultimately put their needs first.

But, he got mad at his under 6 child for deleting files important stuff from his iPad so ultimately blaming a child. Why did a child have such access to an iPad in the first place.

Ihavehadenoughalready · 06/06/2025 10:08

Also wondering as a pp has, why docs on iPad were not saved to cloud automatically and additionally why does child have access to iPad if dad is using it for work? Sounds like a him problem.

And him saying he'll have to play catchup in the evenings is setting you up for him to escape to some man cave somewhere so he can recreate his docs he should never have lost in the first place. If he intends to work on this holiday, and the kids are too bothersome for him, this isn't going to be enjoyable for anyone.

My ex was an expert at ruining every holiday due to his own tantrums. I'm so glad I never have to deal with that any more.

Newfigtree · 06/06/2025 10:06

Honestly, that’s a good apology. I would forgive and not bring it up again.
I don’t believe in holding mistakes over people. He knows what he did was wrong hence the apology so doesn’t need a further ‘chat’ to be told off like a child.

Profpudding · 06/06/2025 10:05

I would get rid of this one as soon as you possibly can. My dad was exactly the same ruined many of Christmas holiday and day out with his tantrums.
It gets very very wearing when the children feel like they’re more adult than the adult

BonfireToffee · 06/06/2025 10:04

He only got back to you and explained after you messaged him twice. If he’d have sent a profuse apology off his own back, I’d say reconsider. As it is, he’s an inconsiderate, stroppy wanker who expects to be able to mess you and your kids around — you can (and deserve to) do better than this guy, honestly.

SuperTrooper14 · 06/06/2025 10:04

I'd accept the apology but I'd still do an alternative weekend with just your DC on the basis you'll end up doing all the childcare while he's working on sorting out the docs before his deadline.

inkognitha · 06/06/2025 09:59

Don’t listen to the bekind, he misbehaved, he needs a time out, you are not available this weekend anymore.
Men get the memo a lot more in real time through actions than by talking about it later (and it takes a lot less emotional energy).
This is a foundational moment for your relationship, he shapes up or ships out, your kids are young, they will forget about the change of plans.
If he gets angry, you ll have proof he is a red flag. If he accepts graciously, you ll have proof he is decent, if not perfect.
That’s why you need to push sometimes, to know what he is really made of.

BeLilacWriter · 06/06/2025 09:58

Tulipsdaisy · 06/06/2025 08:48

I've had a response:

"Good morning. I apologise for last night stress got the better of me. DS2 has somehow managed to delete my docs on the ipad and I'm on a tight deadline for Monday. Let's keep plans as they are, I will have to play catch up in the evenings."

Your thoughts?

Edited to add from a follow on text, he said DS2 has done it on purpose in retaliation for being told off.

Edited

I think your children should make the decision here, so ask them how they'd feel about not going away and doing the theme park and anything else they want to do with just you or go away with whatshisname and take it from there.

What I would have really liked to have done if children were not involved is reply, "I'm so sorry to hear that, but unfortunately I have now made alternative arrangements."

MilesOfMotivation · 06/06/2025 09:54

Tulipsdaisy · 05/06/2025 23:50

I've read back the messages and noted him saying he would prefer to do "no kids" and I'm now wondering whether he was hoping I would bin off my kids and join him for a kid free weekend. No chance would that be happening.

That's how I perceived it!

lolalopp · 06/06/2025 09:47

I think at this stage you’d be the one cutting your nose off to spite your face if you don’t go. It wasn’t great behaviour but he’s apologised. Just keep your eyes open for any future similar incidents.

You could still take your dc away on your own of course but will it be as much fun for them? What would they rather do?

latetothefisting · 06/06/2025 09:47

I feel a lot of this would have gone so much easier if you'd just spoken to each other rather than sending messages

If he'd phoned you last night saying he was really annoyed with his kids you could have sympathised, talked him down and worked out a plan so the weekend could still go ahead (you taking them all somewhere easy like a cinema for a few hours so he can churn out the work)? Same if you'd just rung him rather than texting him back.

And again this morning if he'd called you it would have been much easier for you to work out how genuine he was, if he understood why you were pissed off, he could have apologised properly etc.

Just talk to each other! It's so hard to read tone of voice and meaning over text.

Also he's an absolute muppet if he's brought important work home on a laptop that a) clearly isn't password protected if his child can get on it and b) isn't backed up. If I accidentally deleted something I'd be working on it would either go to the recycling bin or, if cloud stored there would be an earlier version saved automatically every so often.

TaupeMember · 06/06/2025 09:47

Go with him amd his kids as planned!

Have a really good chat with him after trip (or during if you need to and get the chance) , explain your perspective and see what he says.

Give it one more go if it's all going well...

PsychoHotSauce · 06/06/2025 09:45

m00rfarm · 06/06/2025 08:59

If you and your kids want to go, then go. I probably would. Why cut off your nose etc etc - not much better than him if you decide not to go as a kneejerk reaction. But in the future, after the weekend, tell him that if he ever pulls a stunt like that again without discussing with you first, then you will not forgive and forget.

Exactly! The kids will have a good time, this is what the whole OP was about in the first place - upset that the kids will be disappointed. Take the win OP, deal with him later.

Ellie1015 · 06/06/2025 09:42

Seems like a decent acknowledgement of the issue and apology. I would go ahead with the trip and as long as he doesn't cancel on my kids again then would be fine.

rainbowstardrops · 06/06/2025 09:42

I wouldn’t just bow down after that ‘apology’. I’d breezily say that you’ve already made alternative plans with your DC because you can’t risk them being let down again.
You haven’t been with him for that long and this isn’t the first time he’s messed you around. I’d be thinking whether I wanted to keep putting up with his shit.

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 06/06/2025 09:37

I was all for LTB until that apology. Damn he does know how to give a decent apology after he has calmed down!

I don't know what I would do, which I know isn't helpful advice. The kid deliberately sabotaging his work is a very naughty thing to do indeed (if that is what actually happened) and I can see why he would want to rescind a nice trip away as punishment - it's just that he still didn't take into account that it was unfair on his other child, you, your children and a bit shitty of him to palm his kids off on his mum at short notice. It's still the latest in a series of times that he's disrespected your plans. It's still a father who only sees his kids 50% of the time who tried to palm them off on his parents instead of parent them himself for the weekend when things got a bit hard. That's parenting, it DOES get a bit hard sometimes.

If you still go away with him, he's clearly going to still be stressed and will be working a lot of the time. I think at best there's still going to be weirdness and an atmosphere if you go.

Whether you go away with him or not this weekend, I would take some time to yourself to reflect on what this man has shown you about himself and if you still want to be in a relationship with this.

Apropros of nothing... isn't it a bit weird to do a significant amount of work-work on an ipad instead of a laptop? and isn't it a bit weird that an ipad didn't automatically back things up to the cloud? (I'm not an apple user so correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this one of the strengths of apple products?!).

anyolddinosaur · 06/06/2025 09:30

He's apologised, I'd go for the sake of your children. Then I'd be rethinking the relationship.

His son did behave badly and not taking him on the trip is not a wholly unreasonable punishment. Ask him if he has recuva on his ipad, he may be able to get files back. https://www.ccleaner.com/recuva?srsltid=AfmBOooazBJx9QnXkNWi4dIwGTi8cy1WexQnxxbQ3hLMrgt1mGcu4Gzq

WhatDidIComeInThisRoomFor · 06/06/2025 09:29

This is why he’s a boyfriend and not a partner. A partner would have ring you up and said argh you won’t believe what my kid has done. How do we handle this so my kid has a consequence, I can get my work back on track and I don’t let you and your kids down? And you would have talked it through and found a solution.

But he’s a boyfriend who acts unilaterally and made a decision for himself without considering anyone else. And as he’s a boyfriend and not a partner, I’d step right back from involving your kids in anything to do with him and his kids. Keep seeing him for date nights if you want, but he’s shown he’s not ready to consider you all as a unit and that’s not fair to your DC.

Nousernameforme · 06/06/2025 09:27

Oh that's a tricky one. In this case I would go as it's been promised to the dc, you will probably need to make peace with the fact that it will be you alone parenting all 4 of them this weekend with him cherry picking the bits he wants to join in with. Get through it as others have said but I would be clear that you are there for the kids alone and that you both need to discuss how the future will be.
Also I wouldn't make any plans in future where he holds all the cards