Angry about lenient sentence for murder of elderly man in park

with this case we never knew what these killers looked like to begin with or who they were. So members of the public would not know what sort of appearance they were looking for. They can’t go round attacking every single person that looks the same age as them on release.

with Venables and Thompson people had a clear idea of what they looked like thanks to the photos. So people wandered round specifically looking for a white man who was older but had the features of the boys. Leading to loads of people getting falsely accused and a suicide

Yeah - NIMBYs

Surely people can just as easily be mistaken for killers if their anonymity is not lifted? Probably more easily in fact.

Well that is a relief, and that is why it’s generally a bad idea to out the identity of children/teens.

You're guessing wrong.

Ive outlined why this is a bad idea already but it also means people will be misidentified as them - someone killed themselves not long ago because people wrongly thought they were venebles. The man wasn’t Venables, had done nobody any harm and is now dead. But I’m guessing you support that

This is pointless as both will be given new identities on the state if this is the case and innocent people related to them may be attacked when they are nothing to do with their scummy family member

doing this does nothing other than open up for these kids to be attacked then guess what whoever attacks them will be put inside

Something definitely needs to be done about crime in this country because it is getting out of control.

Agree with that.

I think their anonymity should be lifted as well in the way it was for the killers of James Bulger.

You said generically “cannabis ruins lives” after I mentioned growth and possession in my list. Nowhere did I say dealing which is the lowest, so you evidently didn’t read my previous answers properly.

Just awful.
That poor lovely man.
A very upsetting case.

Clearly medicinal use for an individual not a criminal offence. You are patronising me and sound pretty naive yourself.

Cannabis causes mental health problems and in young people can lead to impaired brain function for life (I have family affected so I know this). If someone is growing and selling it (a dealer) then there should be a decent punishment for it.

Absolutely but it has to be their choice in a job like this

Same as the police, medical, fire brigade- all are tough jobs. Unemployed people need training options.

@kinkytoesepilepsy runs in my family. an extended family member uses it and finds it stops his seizures that result in status epilepticus. He has not yet been approved for medical marijuana as it’s a long wait. Should he go to jail?

I have epilepsy too personally it doesn’t stop my seizures but if it did I would gladly use it

My point still stands RE training. Not everyone is unemployed because they don’t wish to work at all however a job like being a prison guard is very mentally draining and can cause PTSD to people who are already victims.

I think that statement about cannabis really depends on what it is being used for. I’m aware it’s illegal however someone growing/ using it for themselves IMO shouldn’t be jailed. Someone pushing it on young children yes.

You yourself seem incredibly naive. You also can’t say people should go to prison for everything illegal then moan that the prisons should be full.

Force ? I said to train people who are unemployed for the job.

These are not heavy punishments 🙄

And cannabis ruins lives.

All I can think is you have a fairly charmed life!

All new prisons have been built fairly rurally - too expensive to be anywhere else. No-one in power cares about families/visitor access, but it also has a knock on effect on staffing as everyone needs to have a car to get to work.

Tag, curfew, supervision order, community service.

in response to your last post if there isn’t enough room in jails to house everyone, and if there aren’t the funds nor people wanting jails built near them, not enough land for sale then there is a limit of options.

Stuff like cannabis growth and possession for example jail seems a bit extreme. Ditto people like that woman Lucy Connolly who tweeted that incredibly inappropriate tweet re Southport. Should’ve had a device ban annd curfew but that’s it imo. Another crime that I feel jail is unnecessary for is using counterfeit money. All these people should be punished but I feel aren’t a huge danger to society if properly managed with other types of punishment.

maybe you could privately fund a prison if you’ve got the spare cash. Would you mind if it was built in your road near your children or would that be different?

The victim’s age was taken as an aggravating factor, both in itself and in considering the culpability - both determine the sentence. I was also quite surprised at the girl’s sentence. I can’t think of a precedent. The boy’s was in line with similar cases.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/The-King-v-D1-and-D2.pdf

Because you cannot force someone to work as a prison guard when they are terrified/ may be an ex victim themselves

Why not train up unemployed people for the job? Or do you just want volunteers?