7 years for a life

Mr Kohlis family have every right to be furious. It’s an insult to them that this man lost his life and the perpetrators get such a light/no sentence. Where is the lesson in this and what message does it send out to society. We have it all so wrong. Sir Keir is passionate about sentencing people
for the crimes they commit, he should be getting involved in this and making sure justice is served.

I doubt very much that you'd have this opinion if a member of your family was treated in such a vile and callous way.

I've just read about this and can honestly say I am shocked at the low sentence.
That poor man 😢
What a pair of absolutely vile excuses for human beings.
I'm disgusted and can wholly understand how let down the family must feel.

WTF? Beating and abusing an elderly man so hard that his neck and multiple ribs fractured is not a mistake by any stretch of the word. This was a pre planned and very deliberate attack. They knew exactly what they were doing and filmed it so they could enjoy his suffering again later. I too made mistakes as a teenager yet not one of them involved harm to another human being(or animal)

7 years is a pathetic sentence(And he won’t even serve 7) for torturing, beating and racially abusing a helpless elderly man.

Mr Kohli died in terror and agony. His family have to spend the rest of their lives knowing their loved one died in pain and fear. That his life was very deliberately taken from him by these worthless thugs and you think that a man’s life, his torturous and sadistic death at the hands of racist thugs is worth just 7 years for one and no custodial time for the other? The odds of either of these sadists ever redeeming themselves and being of anything other than a detriment to society are slim to non existent but even if they do, this sentence is entirely inadequate.

I mean I think it’s a bit more than a ‘mistake’ or ‘stupid decision’. He made the conscious choice to murder a vulnerable member of society. Maybe that’s why you’re being questioned on your comment. Let’s not forget the judge also said at ruling, the boy refuses to accept the death is his fault. So no acceptance of blame either.

@SingleMama0 "stupid" isn't a word I'd use for a pre planned attack.

Deplorable but unsurprising. Same with two boys who the man killed in Dagenham after a campaign of abuse. The terror both of these elderly men must have felt. Why does our justice system think their lives are worth so little?

7 years? How long do you think they should get? I think imo 7 years is a good sentence given the boy was 14 when the offence happened. My opinion. People make mistakes, stupid decisions when youre an adolescent. He did wrong. I think 7 years is fair

Genuinely interested

Presume you have other information additional to what's in the press

So you think the sentence is correct. Why is that?

Also, what sentence would you give if the killer had been 17? Or 25.

It shouldn’t matter. Tougher sentences should be given, there are no consequences right now. In fact, prison might be a little holiday for her.

Genuinely asking - would you feel this way if your dad/granddad was killed like this?

Judges should be banned from courts. How can a woman who tweeted (and then deleted) get 2.5 years, but a person convicted of manslaughter gets off with nothing? What has happened to justice??

Shockingly lenient sentences- husband and I both gasped in disbelief when we heard it on the news earlier. That poor man - his daughter is a credit to him: dignified and articulate when she spoke of her dissatisfaction at the short sentences. Praying for her that this is reviewed and increased.

I saw this earlier and was extremely shocked at the short sentence. I also don’t agree that it was manslaughter.

These sentences are disgusting. The girl set the whole thing up and got away scot free. Racism scum the pair of them. That poor man and his family.

Oh give over. The sentence isn’t even remotely ok. It’s an absolute insult.

I think the sentence is ok tbh. Im local to this. It is terrible. I just hope the child is given lots of help and changes for the better in the time they serve. I think the girl should’ve also been charged too

I'm also angry with the police who did nothing when 2 reports of racism in this area were ignored. They should be held to account. If they had intervened, this potentially could have been prevented.

Because they were convicted of manslaughter not murder. Plus them being minors means the sentences are even more pathetically low. I think the judge was way too soft with them though.

I can fully understand this feeling actually.

Particularly when the sentance is so egregious...

And its not even 7 ... he'll serve 3.5 most probably.

Absolutely disgraceful.
The poor family.

It’s very difficult to put into words how I feel about this. Apart from anything else, I can’t get my head around how young the perpetrators were. What is happening to the human race? 😢

If anyone has ever seen the film Eden Lake about feral kids. This is what it reminds me of. It's the pain the poor man went through, I can't bear.

No- he will be out.

The girl never went in.

It's horrifying.

https://www.gov.uk/ask-crown-court-sentence-review.

"Anyone can ask for a sentence to be reviewed - you do not have to be involved in the case."