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PITCHpink · 05/06/2025 11:51

A friend and I arranged to meet on Saturday morning and she text me last saying “You still up for Saturday?” I said yes definitely bla bla….

She then says “Great, My friend Joanne is coming along too, you’ve met her and got on with her”

I’m so annoyed as it feels like she’s waited until I’ve confirmed and committed again and then springs this upon me. Joanne is nice but it changes the dynamics completely as I’ve only met her twice and don’t feel comfortable discussing personal stuff with someone I don’t know.

I can’t say ‘no don’t bring her’ or that I’m not coming now, because I’ll be the bad guy and the unsociable one. She’s done this in the past too and I find it so annoying. I’ve got other stuff to do, but I put that on the back burner to see her at a time that suits her and not me at all. She knows I’m not keen on her randomly inviting other people as last time she done it I said I’ll meet her a different time. I don’t think she was too impressed.

Why do people do this!? I wouldn’t dream of bringing one of my friends along randomly… so annoying

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RitaIncognita · 05/06/2025 17:10

LoveSandbanks · 05/06/2025 11:59

I’m too old for this shit. I’d just respond with “I was hoping for a catch up with just the two of us. I’ll leave you and Joanne to this one, maybe we can set a date for another time”

Agree wholeheartedly.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/06/2025 17:09

LoveSandbanks · 05/06/2025 11:59

I’m too old for this shit. I’d just respond with “I was hoping for a catch up with just the two of us. I’ll leave you and Joanne to this one, maybe we can set a date for another time”

This is what I’d be saying

DownAndOut25 · 05/06/2025 17:09

PITCHpink · 05/06/2025 12:02

You’re right! I’m sitting here annoyed and wish I had your mindset before I said yes because I didn’t want to be the awkward one. I am too old for this shit too

Why can’t you send the message @LoveSandbanks suggested now?

HonoraBridge · 05/06/2025 17:00

Your friend is rude or inconsiderate or both.

PITCHpink · 05/06/2025 16:51

Mollysocks · 05/06/2025 16:48

Aw OP I had this with a friend’s husband. You’d think he wouldn’t want to come and be the hanger-on but he kept popping along.

Once she said he wasn’t coming because I made it clear I wanted it to be just us two, then he showed up! He’d come to all girl lunches as well, the only partner who was there, all of us with our normal self-aware husbands at home.

I ended up being a petty bitch and just chatting away to her about in jokes and other things he wasn’t a part of and I think he got fed up of being the third wheel.

It’s even worse when they bring their husbands to a catch up! My DH would hate to be involved so I can’t imagine why men would want to gatecrash a ladies meet up. Odd as anything

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Nananananana80 · 05/06/2025 16:51

LoveSandbanks · 05/06/2025 11:59

I’m too old for this shit. I’d just respond with “I was hoping for a catch up with just the two of us. I’ll leave you and Joanne to this one, maybe we can set a date for another time”

Cane here to say this. Life's too short if you don't want to go then just say it. Annoying yes but she'll either get the picture or not.

Mollysocks · 05/06/2025 16:48

Aw OP I had this with a friend’s husband. You’d think he wouldn’t want to come and be the hanger-on but he kept popping along.

Once she said he wasn’t coming because I made it clear I wanted it to be just us two, then he showed up! He’d come to all girl lunches as well, the only partner who was there, all of us with our normal self-aware husbands at home.

I ended up being a petty bitch and just chatting away to her about in jokes and other things he wasn’t a part of and I think he got fed up of being the third wheel.

Azureshores · 05/06/2025 16:45

LoveSandbanks · 05/06/2025 11:59

I’m too old for this shit. I’d just respond with “I was hoping for a catch up with just the two of us. I’ll leave you and Joanne to this one, maybe we can set a date for another time”

This. Life is too short to spend your spare time doing things you don't want to do. Be an adult about it and be honest. You'll know if she's a true friend from her reaction.

TheBookShelf · 05/06/2025 16:44

Sometimes this is just a sociable person being thoughtless or lacking social boundaries, but it can lead to excruciatingly awkward situations.

Many years ago I had a series of coffee catchups with a friend, who we will call Sally, at her home. She would invite me for what I thought was a 1:1 chat, then once I had arrived would say ‘oh, X is joining us and will be here shortly’. Three times in succession, she invited X, Y or Z as an extra person without telling me beforehand. Then I would have to quickly recalibrate possible chat, while X Y or Z would arrive and look very surprised to see me as they’d also thought they were there for a 1:1 catchup! Just so awkward. I slightly knew X, Y and Z but only very tenuously through local circles - all perfectly nice people, but I wouldn’t have prioritised spending time with them for a casual coffee when my free time was very limited.

On the first occasion, Sally cheerfully asked about X’s very personal medical issue in front of me. On the second occasion, it turned out that Y was someone I had once worked with. On the third occasion, Sally chatted brightly about what she thought was a lovely connection between me and Z (had both once been members of the same large hobby group), blithely unaware that Z no longer attended that group partly because of a family bereavement.

Eventually I realised that Sally saw herself as a social networker locally, and this was her way of trying to connect people she thought had something in common and creating what she thought was a jolly group chat. But what she didn’t have was the social awareness to let people know that there would be other people joining, and to avoid touching on personal or sensitive matters that should have been kept for a 1:1.

After this happened three times I said to Sally that I wasn’t comfortable being presented on the spot with people I hadn’t known were coming, particularly if it led to awkward chats on sensitive topics, and that another time, I wanted to know beforehand if she had invited anyone else.

I don’t think Sally ever really understood the nuances of this and eventually I just withdrew from meeting up with her! I think some people are just very lacking in social antennae.

WhoAteTheLastBrownie · 05/06/2025 16:44

When someone sets up a 1:1 with you, it usually means they want to spend time with you, just you. That you matter enough to hold that space on your own. So when they confirm the plan on the day and then suddenly mention they’ve invited someone else to join, it shifts the tone. What felt like a personal catch-up starts to feel more like a group hangout, and you weren’t really asked if that was okay.
It can leave you feeling like you’re not important enough to be seen on your own. Like they’re trying to tick off two social boxes at once. Like you didn’t quite make the cut as someone who gets time carved out just for them.
It’s not just about the change in plan. It’s about what the meeting meant to you versus what it clearly meant to them.

We all want to be enough without needing to be padded out with other people. Personally, I wouldn't go.

Birdsongsinging · 05/06/2025 16:41

LoveSandbanks · 05/06/2025 11:59

I’m too old for this shit. I’d just respond with “I was hoping for a catch up with just the two of us. I’ll leave you and Joanne to this one, maybe we can set a date for another time”

This

PITCHpink · 05/06/2025 16:39

Thanks guys for all the advice and home truths. I’m going to message and say I’m not going.

I probably am quite anti social these days, but working with the general public for early 30 years does that to you 😆 I’ve got my friendships and I’m happy with them. I don’t mind meeting as a group with my own close friends but not strangers. Time is precious and I don’t want to spend it making small talk wondering if Joanne knows about my friends situations and what’s ok to speak about/mention or not.

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Pelicanos · 05/06/2025 16:38

LoveSandbanks · 05/06/2025 11:59

I’m too old for this shit. I’d just respond with “I was hoping for a catch up with just the two of us. I’ll leave you and Joanne to this one, maybe we can set a date for another time”

This is perfect

Cosyblankets · 05/06/2025 16:25

Going against the grain here to say that unless I had something deeply personal to discuss with the friend, it wouldn't bother me

TiredMame · 05/06/2025 16:22

I’m also too old for this shit op. I had a friend who did this, and so I just never met up with her one on one. I also have no interest in chit chatting with acquaintances.
I would absolutely decline now because she clearly knew you didn’t like it last time and did it again.

VickyEadieofThigh · 05/06/2025 16:21

The first and only time someone did this to me was when I was 20. Home from university at the end of my 2nd year, my best friend from school (who hadn't gone to uni), whom I hadn't seen for several months, arranged to meet me in our city - and turned up with a girl I'd never spoken to before (knew of her as she was in the year below us at school). They mostly chatted to each other all night.

Never saw my friend again. I don't need it in writing!

BexAubs20 · 05/06/2025 16:21

LoveSandbanks · 05/06/2025 11:59

I’m too old for this shit. I’d just respond with “I was hoping for a catch up with just the two of us. I’ll leave you and Joanne to this one, maybe we can set a date for another time”

100% this

ShillyShallySherbet · 05/06/2025 16:17

LoveSandbanks · 05/06/2025 11:59

I’m too old for this shit. I’d just respond with “I was hoping for a catch up with just the two of us. I’ll leave you and Joanne to this one, maybe we can set a date for another time”

This

Amelie2025 · 05/06/2025 16:17

LoveSandbanks · 05/06/2025 11:59

I’m too old for this shit. I’d just respond with “I was hoping for a catch up with just the two of us. I’ll leave you and Joanne to this one, maybe we can set a date for another time”

Just do this!

no more rude than her inviting someone else along.

PeopleWillAlwaysNeedPlates · 05/06/2025 16:16

"Joanne's lovely but I was hoping to catch up just the two of us. I'll bow out this time."

If you can't genuinely say this to her then you need to drop the friendship. It's as simple as that.

GiggleWiggle246 · 05/06/2025 16:16

I have a friend that does this EVERY single time. We’ll arrange a day with just us and our kids she’ll always invite someone else along, sometimes two! It totally throws off the dynamics of the friendship as they’re people she sees probably daily where as I don’t and it usually means we then have to find somewhere to accommodate 3+ adults and 10+ kids when it’s time to eat. The last time she did it I politely declined and offered to meet her another day. I’ve told her before I don’t do well in massive social settings as they’re quite open when sharing relationships etc where as I’m not comfortable with that and prefer smaller circles. I’ve not arranged to meet her in months but to be honest she’s so naive I don’t even think she realises it’s because of what she does.

MyDeftDuck · 05/06/2025 16:13

Be the bigger person, suck it up this time but on the next occasion that you are planning to meet up make is perfectly clear that you want it to be just the two of you and you don’t want a third person tagging along to change the dynamics. If you don’t communicate nothing will change will it?!

Nanny0gg · 05/06/2025 16:00

dairydebris · 05/06/2025 14:36

Which is why I said OP shouldn't go if she doesn't want to, and should tell her friend why to stop it happening again. Does no one read the thread these days?

'But it's not really friendly...'

Not the OP's problem

HiRen · 05/06/2025 16:00

Why are you so passive? You don't need to lie or find an excuse for not going - why would a person be so disingenuous anyway? Just tell the truth! Don't complicate it.

She asked if you're still up for meeting her - you said yes - she's told you Joanne will be coming - you're not up for meeting with Joanne - so you pull out. It's literally that simple. What's flakey about saying "oh you didn't say you were bringing Joanne. I was hoping to see just you on Saturday. Not to worry: you go ahead with Joanne and we'll find another date that works".

It's really not that deep. Are you that much of a people pleaser that you'd sacrifice your time to placate Joanne and this friend to your own detriment? No wonder it keeps happening to you.

WhelanGrand · 05/06/2025 15:57

dairydebris · 05/06/2025 12:14

Poor Joanne, maybe she needs a night out or a bit of company. I'd hate to think someone didn't want to spend time with me so much they'd rather cancel on their friend.

Of course its up to you and I do think you should cancel if you really dont fancy it... but its not very friendly is it?

This. Unless you are struggling w something you wanted to talk to your friend about would it kill you to get to know someone new? Don’t worry guys, I know the answer! The UK is very unfriendly it’s not like this in other countries.