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Sophie Ellis-Bextor concert. Ugh

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IOnlyWantSexMoneyPowerAndRevenge · 04/06/2025 21:18

Saw her last week. Good fun. I missed the opportunity to wear my glittery Christmas dress though.

We all know she has legs that go on for days and likes to show them off (so would I if I had them!). At various points during the show she had to bend over (dropped something and so on). Every single time, at least one man wolf whistled. One man started and then others thought it was OK to join in.

I mean, really? They weren't sat near me or I would have said something. It pissed me right off. We were there to sing and dance to a bit of disco and grotty men insist on making their thoughts knoen about how attractive she is. As if anyone cares.

Most of the audience were 50+ which somehow made it even more grim.

Yuk just yuk.

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Notyomama · 05/06/2025 11:02

WhatdoesitmeanKeith · 05/06/2025 10:58

It’s fine if you don’t understand the post. You don’t have to understand everything.

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No, it's not that I don't understand it. I do. I just don't get why people post on threads telling the OP off for posting. I shouldn't have said anything really, it's a pointless derail.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 10:59

IOnlyWantSexMoneyPowerAndRevenge · 05/06/2025 10:58

The sang young blood and a pessimist is never disappointed at the one I saw.

(I always want to type yungblud)

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Thank you for giving me the names - now I can look them up! I'm not a massive SEB fan (though I thoroughly enjoyed the show) but I was blown away by these songs. Gorgeous.

WhatdoesitmeanKeith · 05/06/2025 10:58

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 10:57

You posted just to tell her off for posting. The 'advancing the feminist cause' remark makes no sense.

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It’s fine if you don’t understand the post. You don’t have to understand everything.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 10:58

spicemaiden · 05/06/2025 10:55

so because women are fully aware that many men are pigs (I await the deletion) we should take on the responsibility of policing theif behavioyr by way of curtailing what we wear, how we look, how we doesnt, how we act, where we go, what we do?

Blessed be the fruit

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Yes exactly. The greatest victory of patriarchy is how effective its been at having women police other women while ignoring, accepting or excusing men's behaviour.

Reonie · 05/06/2025 10:58

mindutopia · 05/06/2025 10:54

It’s even more grim that 50+ year old men are at a Sophie Ellis-Bextor concert, what by themselves? With their bro squad? I mean presumably with their partners, otherwise how the hell did the even wind up there? Extra grim when you are on a date night out.

Pretty much any concert except stadium pop, the audience is half made up of bald men over 50. I expect it at Pixies, but I've learned that pretty much every act has those guys.

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IOnlyWantSexMoneyPowerAndRevenge · 05/06/2025 10:58

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 10:56

Totally irrelevant to the conversation but she sang a couple of folsky-type slow ballads and they were amazing. I think that kind of singing suits her voice way better and I'd love to hear more of it.

The sang young blood and a pessimist is never disappointed at the one I saw.

(I always want to type yungblud)

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Notyomama · 05/06/2025 10:57

WhatdoesitmeanKeith · 05/06/2025 10:56

Why? @Notyomama

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You posted just to tell her off for posting. The 'advancing the feminist cause' remark makes no sense.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 10:56

Totally irrelevant to the conversation but she sang a couple of folsky-type slow ballads and they were amazing. I think that kind of singing suits her voice way better and I'd love to hear more of it.

WhatdoesitmeanKeith · 05/06/2025 10:56

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 10:54

What a truly weird criticism.

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Why? @Notyomama

ohyesido · 05/06/2025 10:55

She’s been given a miraculous second chance, and she’s making the most of it. I would too if I looked like her

spicemaiden · 05/06/2025 10:55

Lanzarotelady · 05/06/2025 09:42

She can wear exactly what she wants, but she was also fully aware of the fact that wearing a very short skirt and bending over would illicit the exact reaction she was looking for and encouraging!

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so because women are fully aware that many men are pigs (I await the deletion) we should take on the responsibility of policing theif behavioyr by way of curtailing what we wear, how we look, how we doesnt, how we act, where we go, what we do?

Blessed be the fruit

mindutopia · 05/06/2025 10:54

It’s even more grim that 50+ year old men are at a Sophie Ellis-Bextor concert, what by themselves? With their bro squad? I mean presumably with their partners, otherwise how the hell did the even wind up there? Extra grim when you are on a date night out.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 10:54

WhatdoesitmeanKeith · 05/06/2025 10:53

So one confirmed person wolf whistled at a concert and you start a thread on mumsnet?

I do get that men objectifying women generally is a problem, but I don’t think posts like this are furthering the feminist cause in the way that you think you might be.

What a truly weird criticism.

WhatdoesitmeanKeith · 05/06/2025 10:53

So one confirmed person wolf whistled at a concert and you start a thread on mumsnet?

I do get that men objectifying women generally is a problem, but I don’t think posts like this are furthering the feminist cause in the way that you think you might be.

PuzzledPartridge · 05/06/2025 10:52

nomas · 05/06/2025 09:53

I haven’t seen the performance so on the face of it, YANBU, there was no need for the men to behave like that.

However, as a pp said, was the performance staged to get those reactions?

E.g. Sabrina Carpenter has built her concert act around sexually suggestive poses (bending or kneeling and pushing her arse out to the audience, mimicking fellatio with the mic etc. I think Tate McRae does similar.

I was thinking of Sabrina Carpenter, her act is to get the men whistling. It is very sexual.

I didn't see Sophie Ellis-Bextor's performance so I wouldn't know.

echt · 05/06/2025 10:51

Instinct1 · 05/06/2025 10:24

And SEB is 46, so surely around 50 is age appropriate?

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Look again at what the OP said. She made the distinction plain enough.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 10:49

KimberleyClark · 05/06/2025 10:47

And men can seem to get seem to get by without being drop dead gorgeous, look at Lewis Capaldi. His female equivalent would not get far.

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It sounds like your knowledge of female performers is pretty limited.

KimberleyClark · 05/06/2025 10:47

Nettleteaser101 · 05/06/2025 10:41

I agree. Most of the artist these days have really good voices but have to be beautiful and sexy and wear next to nothing. Why can't they just get by with talent alone.

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And men can seem to get seem to get by without being drop dead gorgeous, look at Lewis Capaldi. His female equivalent would not get far.

samarrange · 05/06/2025 10:45

Instinct1 · 05/06/2025 10:10

What do we think about women's behavior towards attractive men at concerts - from Elvis to boybands, Harry Styles etc. Assume that's ok?

A friend went to see Tom Jones on his tour last year. We joked that she should take some spare knickers to throw at him, like in the 1960s. When she got back she told us that two pairs of knickers were actually thrown on stage during the show!

Nettleteaser101 · 05/06/2025 10:41

KimberleyClark · 05/06/2025 10:23

The likes of Joni Mitchell, Carole King, Janis Joplin managed to be hugely successful without needing to be undressed on stage or being sexually suggestive. That’s real empowerment imo.

I agree. Most of the artist these days have really good voices but have to be beautiful and sexy and wear next to nothing. Why can't they just get by with talent alone.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 05/06/2025 10:39

Was it definitely men doing it? Most of the wolf whistles I've seen in the last 10 years or so have been women doing it to other women as a "Ooh, look at you aren't you hot" kind of compliment.

Notyomama · 05/06/2025 10:38

somejust · 05/06/2025 10:33

We all know she has legs that go on for days and likes to show them off

Careful, OP. That sounds perilously close to that DM favourite 'flaunting'.

So was she 'showing them off'

or...were they just...her legs?

How about: She was wearing a really short skirt because it was practical for her dance routines.

(Yes, of course wolf whistling is grim).

I don't think there's anything wrong with showing off her legs - they are great, they're slim and long and look lovely. It doesn't have to be practical. To my mind there is zero issue with acknowledging that you're beautiful and sexy - the human body is lovely and great to look at. Her legs were genuinely mesmerising. Wolf whistling is rude and mean and not how you should treat a performer you ostensibly admire. It has nothing to do with having to paint the performer's choices as practical.

GiraffesAtThePark · 05/06/2025 10:38

Don’t some people do wolf whistling in a jokey way? If someone on stage was bending over with their arse to the audience numerous times some in the audience might just do it in a jokey way to participate like cheering and clapping.

SweetDarling · 05/06/2025 10:35

Starlight1984 · 05/06/2025 09:52

Wolf whistling is sexual harassment now?

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Erm, yes, it can be.

PinkArt · 05/06/2025 10:33

Starlight1984 · 05/06/2025 09:52

Wolf whistling is sexual harassment now?

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Now? It always has been.

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