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Why is it so hard to fire someone in some organisations?

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Merryoldgoat · 04/06/2025 16:24

Now I am someone who thinks it’s important to have fair hiring practices and maintaining a professional work environment.

However my DH has been having an utter nightmare with one of his team members and HR have made him go through an unbelievable amount of rigmarole to just get to the point where they are about to offer him money to go.

The guy has been less than two years.

A few examples of what he’s done

Lied to my husband’s face about when he started work multiple times

Missed deadlines after reassuring DH he’d ’nearly finished’

Going AWOL and refusing to answer messages or calls

Inappropriate use of sick leave and annual leave

Saying he’ll attend meetings and not turning up

At least 5 occasions where he claims to have emailed or messaged DH on Teams but ‘it didn’t send’

Never on time after already agreeing a later start time than everyone else in the team.

Every time DH has tried to address firmly HR have said they need to offer more support and it’s not reached the stage where they can let go.

They are now going to probably pay him 4-6 months pay which seems mad given he’s clearly not capable of the job.

It makes zero sense to me - if you work in HR can you explain this?

For context DH works for a university - I don’t know if that makes a difference.

I’d have been able to dismiss this person months ago if they worked for me.

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Merryoldgoat · 04/06/2025 16:33

No3392 · 04/06/2025 16:31

Id put bets on this person having a disability.

If he does surely he needs to disclose so proper adjustments can be put in place?

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Merryoldgoat · 04/06/2025 16:32

@Lucyccfc68

DH showed me his notes - it’s pages and pages. Shocking actually. Are universities like this then? I don’t know really.

His HR business partner sounds so wishy washy.

DH & HR have asked repeatedly about whether he has anything he needs support with and there’s nothing disclosed.

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No3392 · 04/06/2025 16:31

Id put bets on this person having a disability.

Miley23 · 04/06/2025 16:31

I had a colleague at a previous job who was a nightmare. Our job was to sort out benefits for vulnerable people some of them terminally ill and he would constantly not inform people properly of their entitlement. I complained numerous times and nothing was done. I got the impression that it was too much hassle for the manager to go through the measures of proving that he was incompetent. I eventually left the job due to not being able to cope with his cock ups any longer . It took a new manager to eventually get him out of the job.
It has been pretty similar in my current job again. No one prepared to deal with people who are lazy and don't do their job properly, so it just goes on. Both charity sector.

Lucyccfc68 · 04/06/2025 16:30

LlynTegid · 04/06/2025 16:26

Some employers have a fear of tribunals. You can lose one for not following process to the letter in some cases.

That’s correct, but the person in question has been there for less than 2 years. Unless they can show they have been discriminated against due to a protected characteristic, then there’s no tribunal happening.

Lucyccfc68 · 04/06/2025 16:28

‘DH works at a University’ tells you everything you need to know.

I work in HR, in the private sector and that individual would have been long gone . I would have worked with your DH to put a performance plan in place and documented everything. They wouldn’t be walking away with any money either, except for their notice pay and any holidays owed.

The only exception would be if they had disclosed something health wise or a disability and then you obviously need to tread carefully and ensure support is in place.

Copperlightning · 04/06/2025 16:27

Public sector or private?

LlynTegid · 04/06/2025 16:26

Some employers have a fear of tribunals. You can lose one for not following process to the letter in some cases.

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