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wherethestreetshaveasillyname · 04/06/2025 08:56

I just moved into small business premises locally and people have been asking for the address.

Now the street shares the name with a North American location that’s semi well-known in the UK - to avoid outing myself, let’s call it Illinois Street (it’s similar).

But every time I pronounce it (ill-ih-NOY street), I get blank looks. Then, when I describe the location, I get “ah you mean ill-ih-nwahh street!” and a raised ‘are you a bit stupid’ eyebrow.

What should I do?

A)keep saying it correctly

B) say it like everyone else seems to- but then look weird when I encounter someone who says it correctly

C) do as I am currently and long-windedly doing and say “oh it’s on Illinois Street, or, ill-i-nwa street as people seem to pronounce it round here.

(this is life-and-death and not at all lighthearted btw)

OP posts:
Anonycat · 04/06/2025 11:01

slashlover · 04/06/2025 10:56

My parents stay near Newmilns (New-Mills) close to Strathaven (Stray-ven)

I live near a village called Mildenhall (not the Suffolk place). It’s pronounced Mynal.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 04/06/2025 11:01

TheGhostOfPatButcher · 04/06/2025 10:53

@IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta

I have been asked so many times why I say February weirdly. 😑

Grrr, I'm so with you there!

Febyooary
Wensday
Marshmellows

It's hugely infuriating when a word is so commonly mispronounced that anybody pronouncing it properly is thought to be thick!

CarrigDubh · 04/06/2025 11:00

dudsville · 04/06/2025 09:08

"Correct" pronunciation of a thing is decided upon by the locals. Same here as there.

Yes. The Connaught Hotel is pronounced in England without the hard 'ch' sound an Irish person would naturally give it. In the UK I go with the local pronunciation, though it is counter intuitive to me.

tuvamoodyson · 04/06/2025 11:00

AppropriateAdult · 04/06/2025 09:21

I think in the film they pronounce it “Lewis” when spoken but “Louie” in the song, don’t they? May need a rewatch…

Edited

Yes…’Louie’ in the song but it’s called St ‘Lewis’

Chints · 04/06/2025 11:00

I would say the real pronunciation is the local one. Use that, except when on the phone to people who only need to type it onto a form. In that case you could say it the American way to make it easier for them to understand and spell.

We do this with our surname.

eurochick · 04/06/2025 11:00

I’d say the local way is the “correct” way here. Place name pronunciation varies a lot. I grew up near Erith. Locally it is said ear-ith. It always annoyed me when newsreaders pronounced it er-eth. Similarly Wrotham (locally it is root-um but non-locals usually say wroth-am).

Westfacing · 04/06/2025 10:59

CaptainMyCaptain · 04/06/2025 10:11

There is/was a Council estate in Deptford called Pepys Estate after Samuel Pepys (peeps) who had local connections. Everyone local called it Peppys.

My son was at school with a member of the Pepys, as in Samuel, family - they too pronounced it Peppys - to add to the confusion! Grin

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 04/06/2025 10:58

I love the way it is with a beautiful village in the Peak District.

There's longstanding controversy as to whether it should be spelled Youlgrave or Youlgreave - with even official bodies not being able to unanimously make their minds up.

There are something like 30 different recorded spellings of the village name... yet the locals usually refer to it as Pommy Grin

BoudiccaRuled · 04/06/2025 10:57

BangersAndGnash · 04/06/2025 10:44

Place names develop their own local pronunciation.

If you lived in Paris Street would you insist on calling it Paree Street?

Beaulieu in the New Forest is definitely pronounced Bewley, and the locals were extremely irritated by my friend using the French pronunciation.

Assuming the place was named in the decades after 1066, who knows how on earth Beaulieu would have been pronounced by the french then?

slashlover · 04/06/2025 10:56

gethighlikeplanes · 04/06/2025 10:50

Fenwick - Fen-ick
Drongan - Drungan

and my favourite

Catrine - Cottern (I can’t even properly write that phonetically!)

My parents stay near Newmilns (New-Mills) close to Strathaven (Stray-ven)

Usk · 04/06/2025 10:56

Anonycat · 04/06/2025 10:35

Can you research why the street was given that name? It might, for example, have been after a local dignitary who pronounced it differently from the American way.

We were puzzled why a victorian row of houses was named after a caribbean island - turned out land they were on came from local dignitary who last and highest job was being governor of said island.

We have people correct us on DH family surname - it's orgin is mangle irish - but it's taken on pronunciation of old english family that's now died out - someone married someone from area landed english family was in - and there are two villages name north and south with same name - and locals in area of villages say it same as we do.

TheGhostOfPatButcher · 04/06/2025 10:53

@IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta

I have been asked so many times why I say February weirdly. 😑

Snorlaxo · 04/06/2025 10:52

A difficult one but I’d use the local pronunciation even though Illi nwa sounds wrong to me.

I had this dilemma with Maryland chocolate chip cookies. Presumably the brand is based on the American location but people here say Mary land rather than pronounce it like an American and say “Marilyn”

England is full of place names pronounced very differently to how it’s spelled. I would pretend that this is one of those cases.

gethighlikeplanes · 04/06/2025 10:50

slashlover · 04/06/2025 10:41

You could D) Not assume that you're right and that every single other person is wrong.

As someone who lives near Moscow (pronounced Moss-cow) and Irvine (Irv-in, not Ir-vine).

Edited

Fenwick - Fen-ick
Drongan - Drungan

and my favourite

Catrine - Cottern (I can’t even properly write that phonetically!)

bunnibee · 04/06/2025 10:50

I have a local one. The name is spelt Bevere. Many a time I've been asked where B vere is.
It's pronounced by the locals as Bev-er-ree

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 04/06/2025 10:48

Belvoir Castle always makes me laugh.

House0fBamboo · 04/06/2025 10:47

Try Chideock, Puncknowle, Eype or Rampisham 😂

threenaancurrywhore · 04/06/2025 10:47

Do as the locals do, as that’s “correct” locally. I live near Holywell beach, pronounced Hollywell, obviously (not obviously).

FoxAches · 04/06/2025 10:46

If it's Arkansas, I'd say YANBU to pronounce it correctly. The internet informs me that:

"The name "Arkansas" originates from the French "Arcansas," a pluralized, Anglicized form of "akansa," a name used by the Quapaw people. This name, "akansa," was in turn derived from an Algonquian term for the Quapaw, believed to translate to "south wind people" or "people downstream". The French explorers then adopted this name for both the people and the river, and later, the state."

So it's native American via French, not a European import...

BunnyLake · 04/06/2025 10:46

GinToBegin · 04/06/2025 10:41

Apparently there are 12/13 ways that ough can be pronounced in English… Loughborough has two of them. I love the English language, but it is weird at time.

I’m glad I didn’t have to learn English (as a language) in a classroom.

Tuebrook · 04/06/2025 10:45

What do you do with somewhere like Shrewsbury? The local generally say Shoosbury nor Shrawsbury or Shroosbury?

The Welsh names are more complicated because a few have

  1. English names as well as Welsh ones (e.g Hay-on-Wye/Y Gelli Gandryll)
  2. Some are tricky (Machynlleth)
  3. Some have Welsh names that have been anglicised for a long time, so you'd probably get 'corrected' if you used the correct pronunciation.
IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 04/06/2025 10:45

It's very annoying when you're right but the vast majority of people are wrong - which then makes everybody assume that you are the one who is wrong. This is the case in so many things; not just in road names.

It isn't just in pronunciations, either, but it can also be the actual spellings of road names. We used to know people who lived on Spenser Road - named after 16th century poet Edmund Spenser, who wrote The Faerie Queene. Even though it's there on the road sign, just about everybody - including virtually all of the people who live on the road - spell it Spencer Road; the result being that, if you spell it correctly, they assume that you're a bit simple and don't know how to spell a common British surname!

Interestingly, I've noticed that one word that is almost universally spoken with the wrong pronunciation is actually the word 'pronunciation'! It's so irritating when people ask "What is the correct pronOWnciation of..." and you're just wanting to hop right in and say "Can I just stop you there?!" Grin

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 04/06/2025 10:45

I think you should pronounce it as the locals pronounce it. Unless it was specifically named after the American place for some reason, there is nothing to say that the American version is correct.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/06/2025 10:45

@wherethestreetshaveasillyname in scotland! my dh car could never get the hang of me asking to call him on the phone/ would ask if it was any number of people but couldnt get my scottish accent. as for the sat nav, well I sometimes roll about laughing at how the place names are pronounced!! I think I need to take a drive up to ecclefechan or kirkudbright just for a giggle!! a good railway announcer once said "ecclefechan to aibirdeen an ahing else inatween!

BangersAndGnash · 04/06/2025 10:44

Place names develop their own local pronunciation.

If you lived in Paris Street would you insist on calling it Paree Street?

Beaulieu in the New Forest is definitely pronounced Bewley, and the locals were extremely irritated by my friend using the French pronunciation.

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