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Bank of Mum and Dad and disrespect - request they finance their own.

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Mumofadultkid · 04/06/2025 00:45

Please bear with me there is a lot to this, and please be gentle with your comments - this has put me into a tailspin and I am crying every day.

We have helped our DD and her partner into a house, by releasing equity from our home and getting a revolving mortgage on their behalf. It was a significant amount and has put us years back in clearing our own mortgage. (We are fast approaching retirement!) They agreed to pay a certain amount each month to clear it, but they have defaulted on this 3 times already. The house is a movable house (not a caravan but movable) and is on our land. They use our services but only pay a small amount towards utilities such as electricity.

In the past, we have bought her two cars, one we agreed to pay for and the other we got the loan in our name for her to pay us back as she couldn't secure a loan at the time and I said its cheaper this way than paying all that interest. The second car loan, she paid a couple of payments, barely anything - then she started again with the attacks and said "it's all about the money with you", as a result of that - we said it's not about the money - keep the car! (On reflection, I now know this was the wrong thing to do)

She is always combative and looks for anything to have a go at us with, it really is anything - a post I may have put up, she interprets it as an attack on her, if I say something (even nothing to do with her) she interprets as an attack on her. If we don't respond in a way that she wants - "we were not excited enough", or we don't support her, or we are abusive, toxic narcissists. I noticed this as a young teen, where she claimed to her friends that a teacher had looked her up and down, funnily judging her outfit - she didn't! There was no looking up and down. The teacher said hi, Where are the others and that was it! Its been going on for years.

She can't maintain friendships, and has actually been quite nasty to some of them - pointing out "their toxic traits" - she has had three jobs never longer than a year, all of which have ended because she feels she is better than everyone, everyone is stupid and doesn't know what they are doing, and she is quite rightly (in her mind) pointing out everything that is wrong with the organisation to her managers!

She recently left her job to start her own business which is not going very well!

Her partner had a great job, but due to her "interference", he has had to move teams. She went in with him to "talk to his managers" because of "bullying behaviour from the team". It wasn't. The team he worked with was warning him because in a short space of time, he had moved in with her, and is now fully supporting her financially. He has sold his car to fund her business, he has reduced his hours to be with her (resulting in a significant drop in salary) and no longer sees his friends - she actually said to his managers face, "It's bad management".!!!!

She came away quite smug, that "she told them what's what".

Her partner was so lovely, and still is - when he came on the scene, he really calmed her down, and we thought finally someone to help her see things a little bit more clearly and a different perspective. We had such a lovely time with him, but that soon changed! He even approached me to ask how to deal with her, and he said she's feisty!

We met his family, and his family sent a message to him telling him what lovely people my husband and I are as we were driving home - and I remember then grabbing the steering wheel tightly in panic (I was driving home) and thinking she is not going to like that! (DD)

Now, he has been turned against us and is sending us horrible messages as a result of a non-event again. Its clear that she is nudging him to say these things and I suspect she is using his account to get to us ( I had to mute/block her because of the vitriol she kept sending). He called my husband names and is accusing us of lying! (This was the discussion over payment of the mortgage - he said we are lying because they can pay what they want when they want, we advised them this is true, but that is not the agreement we had; they need to make regular payments as agreed.)

It feels like she is nice to get what she wants, but as soon as she gets it she looks for and creates drama to cut us out of her life. I admit that in the past, in panic, I have bowed down.

But this time, she attacked me in my workplace, sending emails to my boss and trying to make me look incompetent. Luckily for me, my boss just ignored them, but said that she (DD) was definitely trying to ruin my reputation.

We live in a very small town, she tells lies constantly, and I am lost. I don't know what to do. It feels like she twists everything to drive a narrative that she is the victim and we are the nasties. Its so heartbreaking.

We had a message that she no longer wishes to have a relationship with us, due to our toxic behaviour and emotional abuse - she ended it with " I wish you both well". Yet she is still living on our land, with a debt in our name and using our facilities.

We don't want to cut her off, we don't want to appear to be petty or reactive.

I want to tell them to get their own loan, to clear our loan and then get it moved off. But I don't think they can now.

I have blocked her socials and her emails to stop the onslaught - is that petty? Am I just as bad as her for behaving like this?

And I'm afraid this feeds into her narrative about us. I want a relationship with her, but this pattern is so draining and exhausting. We are constantly walking on eggshells around her - if we explain this to her, she then uses that against us and turns the narrative to say she is the one walking on eggshells. It feels like she is AI, she's learning all these things from us to then accuse us of what she is doing - if that makes sense?

I don't know what to do.

Am I right to block all contact and request they get their own finance and move their house - or will this just inflame the situation and prevent any way back.

OP posts:
MalcolmMoo · 04/06/2025 05:16

There is no future relationship. I’d kick them out of the mobile home and thus off your land and just ignore them.

I feel for her partner as he’s been manipulated but not much you can do now.

She sounds awful.

Gumbo · 04/06/2025 05:14

That sounds truly horrendous for you! You've had some good advice here, definitely time to get your daughter off your land as she isn't going to change.

You're being abused, and no doubt her boyfriend is too. You mention that he is a lovely fellow - is there a way you could talk to him away from her and try to get him to leave her, so that's at least one less person being subjected to abuse? (Caveat - I don't know enough about abusive relationships to know whether this would end badly for him...perhaps you could talk to his parents?).

Either way, you need to evict her and not have her back...as a parent I know that must be hard, but imagine how she'll be treating you in 20 years time when you're older and less able to push back, if you don't do it now?

Shoxfordian · 04/06/2025 04:57

You're being too soft. There's love and there's allowing someone to just walk all over you. Speak to a lawyer, get her off your land

Onthemaintrunkline · 04/06/2025 04:46

I echo the ‘tough love’ sentiment above, wholeheartedly. It’s well overdue in my opinion, what you have enabled, accepted is quite astonishing. Cease engaging/communicating with your daughter and her partner. Approach a solicitor and ask advice for the best way forward.

You are going to have to harden up where daughter and P are concerned, after your years of leniency this will go against your nature, but from what I read it’s the only way. This young couple need a sharp lesson and no mistake.

FortyElephants · 04/06/2025 04:43

Do you own their home or did you give them the money to buy it?

LAMPS1 · 04/06/2025 04:36

You have explained the nature of the problem very well OP and you sound like such loving and caring parents.

Sadly, it sounds as if your DD really does have a personality disorder of the type where she is very unlikely to correct or help herself and likely to continue lambasting you until you are completely broken financially and emotionally.
You can’t let that happen.
This must be crushing for you to realise. I’m so sorry.

It means the only recourse is to save yourself financially by any means you can and to protect yourself from any further contact with her for now, until you have managed to evict her from your land and they are both working full time to pay their own way. You need legal advice to guide you through that.

If, by cutting her off financially and emotionally, you can manage to get her working full time to support herself, then you will have done her a great service even if it’s at the expense of your relationship with her.

At that point, much further down the line, when you are financially secure and separate from her, you could reconsider your relationship with her again. But for now, you must save yourselves as a priority. Please get legal help as soon as you can. You can’t deal with this without professional guidance.

Paperweight7 · 04/06/2025 04:24

This is hard to accept, but she will never change.

I am related to someone like this and she would quite happily see her parents living on the street if she got what she wanted out of them (her lifestyle fully funded by them, no need to work, her every whim met with approval no matter how bonkers it is). I was angry at her parents for accepting this treatment but they are being abused and don't feel they can do anything about it. She is nasty and spreads stories about them claiming she is a victim. It gets worse every year.

Honestly, all you can do is cut her off, weather the storm and save yourself, your partner and any other kids you might have.

Ponderingwindow · 04/06/2025 04:05

You have 3 distinct issues you need to make some decisions about. They are related, but each is important on its own.
You don’t need to answer these for us, I’m just suggesting you think about these things.

  1. what happens to you financially if she never pays you back anything else and these debts become solely your problem? How bad of an issue is will that be? Do you have any legal recourse to force her to pay the debt or is your only method to mitigate your losses by repossessing whatever property is legally in your name?
  2. what responsibility do you still feel at this point to trying to reach her to be a better person and more fiscally responsible? Do you recognize that by loaning her money you are actually sabotaging her in a way?
  3. do you personally need to prioritize keeping relationship at any cost or are you ready to deal with the fallout of putting your foot down? This is the tough love moment where the parent hopes the child will learn their lesson, grow up, and recognize that the choices were made for a reason. It doesn’t always work out though.
LumpyMashedPotato · 04/06/2025 03:55

Is the movable house and / or the car in your name ?

You 💯 need to start reclaiming / reselling them now if possible.

LurkyMcLurkinson · 04/06/2025 03:44

You’re not going to get your money back now but unfortunately I think that’s the price you pay for believing that someone who has never been financially responsible would suddenly become financially responsible. You can however find peace and have much less stress in your life by removing her from your land. Serve her an eviction notice and if she’s not made arrangements to move then follow through with whatever legal steps are necessary to get her off. You might feel that’s harsh but you’d be doing her a favour if there’s any chance of her finally growing up and taking responsibility. While she’s allowed to do as she pleases and have you pick up the pieces she has no motivation to change.

CakeBlanchett · 04/06/2025 02:24

The auto-numbering went wrong in my previous post, sorry!

Vaxtable · 04/06/2025 02:10

Tough love that’s what you do

evict from the mobile home then sell it and repay what you can in the loans.

do not give them any more money. Be prepared to get lawyers involved if she trashes you on social media

she sounds narcissistic and won’t change

steff13 · 04/06/2025 02:08

Do see a solicitor to check whether you can gain possession of it. I have a horrible feeling that it's in her name, but I'm wondering whether you have enough proof that she's supposed to be paying you back.

If the loan on the home is not in the daughter's name then couldn't the OP just stop paying it? I mean it's going to jack up their credit of course, but the bank will eventually take it back.

WearyAuldWumman · 04/06/2025 02:04

It sounds as though the residence is one of those portable granny flats that some people have installed in their garden? Something like an iHus?

Do see a solicitor to check whether you can gain possession of it. I have a horrible feeling that it's in her name, but I'm wondering whether you have enough proof that she's supposed to be paying you back.

If it's worst case scenario and you can't establish ownership, I'd be telling her to move the residence - at least that way you wouldn't be subsidising her utilities.

CakeBlanchett · 04/06/2025 02:00

This sounds like a long-standing pattern of emotional, financial, and psychological abuse, not a communication issue to be solved with scripts or mediation. When abuse is this entrenched, clarity and detachment — not compromise — become essential.

Consult a solicitor immediately. Meanwhile, send this letter to your daughter. She will escalate once you send it. Document and save everything. Only respond through your solicitor.

To:
[Your Daughter’s Full Name]
[Her Partner’s Full Name]
[Address – or simply “Currently residing on our property”]

Subject: Formal Notice – Financial Liability, Property Occupation, and Conduct

Dear [Daughter’s Name] and [Partner’s Name],
This letter serves as formal notice regarding three matters of pressing concern: (1) the financial liability you currently owe, (2) your continued occupation of our land, and (3) the nature of your communications with us. All three require immediate resolution.

  1. Mortgage and Outstanding Financial Agreement
As you are fully aware, we took out a significant mortgage in our names to assist you in securing your home. This was done based on your express commitment to repay us in regular monthly instalments. This commitment has not been honoured. There is no ambiguity about the fact that we are solely liable for the debt, while you occupy and benefit from the property it funded.

We are no longer in a position to absorb the consequences of your defaults. We therefore require that you seek independent finance in your own names to clear the balance in full. If this is not possible, we expect a formal repayment plan to be proposed in writing. Please confirm how you intend to proceed by [insert deadline – e.g. 14 June 2025]. If no confirmation is received, we will begin the process of recovering the debt through appropriate channels.

  1. Occupation of Our Land and Use of Utilities
The dwelling you currently occupy is located on land legally owned by us. There is no formal tenancy or licence agreement in place. Your continued presence is permitted solely at our discretion, which we are now reviewing. You make minimal contributions to utility costs, which is no longer acceptable.

We require one of the following by [insert date, e.g. 4 July 2025]:

  • A signed written agreement setting out financial contributions, occupancy terms, and a fixed end date;
  • or
  • Confirmation of your intention to vacate and remove the property.
If neither option is agreed upon, we will issue formal notice to vacate and pursue legal avenues for removal of the structure and recovery of any losses incurred.
  1. Ongoing Conduct and Communications
We will no longer accept any form of hostile or abusive communication — direct or indirect. This includes messages sent from your accounts, via third parties, or through professional channels. Any further harassment, defamation, or reputational interference (e.g., targeting our workplaces) will be documented and, if necessary, pursued under applicable laws.

Going forward, all communication must be in writing and strictly limited to matters relating to finances and property.

We have acted in good faith over many years. Unfortunately, your continued pattern of entitlement, manipulation, and aggression has left us with no choice but to protect our home, our finances, and our peace of mind. This letter establishes our position clearly and in writing. You are advised to treat it with the seriousness it warrants.

Yours sincerely,
[Your Full Name]
[Spouse’s Full Name]

kiwiane · 04/06/2025 01:56

You need legal advice to see if you can enforce the payments or sell their home. I’d no longer trust to have a relationship with her and would want her to leave - she’s going to keep on messing up and you can’t save her and need to think of yourselves.

S0j0urn4r · 04/06/2025 01:51

You may be able to rent out the property in future which should hopefully ease the financial strain.

knittasgonna · 04/06/2025 01:50

She sounds like she has a personality disorder, and you need to protect yourself from her, to the best of your abilities. Not only financially, but emotionally and even physically. As you've admitted, you haven't handled her well in the past, so I'd seek outside, perhaps professional assistance going forward.

I'm sorry, but I can't see her ever changing for the better, not at this point in her life.

AcrossthePond55 · 04/06/2025 01:48

@Mumofadultkid

Frankly, she's abusing you and your DH. You're absolutely entitled to 'make yourselves safe' in any way you need to in order to have peaceful lives.

She has said she wants 'no relationship' with you. Fine. Give her exactly what she wants. Block her and get her off your property. The Bank of Mum & Dad is now closed, permanently.

I assume this 'home' on your property is solely in your names since you got the mortgage? If so, I'd begin eviction proceedings immediately. If her name is on it, you need to see a solicitor to see what you can do about possibly having it
removed from your property.

steff13 · 04/06/2025 01:39

At a minimum, she doesn't get to stay on your property. That's asinine. I don't even know how she thinks that would work.

It seems like she doesn't really get along with anyone which makes me wonder if she's ever had any type of professional mental health assistance.

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Cardinalita90 · 04/06/2025 01:33

I would speak to a solicitor and get advice on evicting them in a completely by-the-book way as a starting point. Don't cut corners or give her any room to argue you're doing things unfairly/improperly re eviction.

You may have had good intentions when you made the deal with her but given her behavioural history, it's actually harmed her. She needs to learn independence, and that abusive behaviour carries consequences.

Don't be swayed by any late apologies or promises to make payments again. The only hope of her changing her ways is total independence and learning the value of money.

S0j0urn4r · 04/06/2025 01:27

So essentially they're living in a home that you own? Do you have any written agreement for them paying you back the mortgage or any kind of tenancy agreement?
You need legal advice and you need to evict them. I doubt they'll go quietly so you may even need to inform the police when you serve eviction.
Your relationship with your daughter is beyond saving at this point. She seems to have complex mental health issues.
It's really about limiting the damage to your lives now.

user1492757084 · 04/06/2025 01:25

Visit an accountant together.
Have her hear the cold hard facts from a professional.

SleepyRic · 04/06/2025 01:23

Is it a static caravan type thing they live in on your land? How does that work in terms of ownership? Can you actually evict them? Or legally do they own it but you are on the finance agreement for it?

I think given everything you've done for her and just all the hurt coming back... If it were me I'd look for a paradigm shift and make clear an intent to step back support and arrange some distance in living arrangements.