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Relationship over, ex keeping ‘joint savings’

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FieldRunner · 03/06/2025 22:08

First of all, I know I’ve been really stupid here. Ex and I have broken up, we had been together for nearly 4 years and been saving for a house for about half of this time. Ex works in finance and persuaded me that we’d be better pooling our savings as would receive higher interest. I transferred a set amount to him each month to put into an account which he said would be a fixed interest rate. Basically it transpires that a few months in he changed this to be invested in to a Stocks ISA. He says it isn’t simple to give this back to me as the money is tied up and value is volatile as it’s the markets (I don’t really understand this).

Does anyone know if it’s hard to get this money out of a Stocks ISA? I don’t know what to do next, he is ignoring my messages now. I’ve transferred over £15,000.

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Gcsunnyside23 · 03/06/2025 23:31

MelliC · 03/06/2025 22:50

This is just theft.

Send him a letter laying out the details of the fraud he has perpetrated against you. Tell him he needs to return the money. How he does this is not your concern. He can take a loan out if necessary.

If he does not comply you will be issuing a claim against him, reporting him to the Financial Conduct Authority and copying his employer in to your letter. He will care about this.

Chat GPT will give you a great letter that will get results

I was coming to say this. You need to pose a threat to his job if he's in finance as he will care about that

BarbieKew · 03/06/2025 23:28

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PrincessofWells · 03/06/2025 23:22

FullOfLemons · 03/06/2025 23:19

This is fraud.

He told you he was saving in an interest bearing account and then invested your funds in a volatile asset class in an ISA - in his name only.

I suspect he has lost a chunk of your money. That is his problem

I would tell him to either return you your 15k on you are reporting him to the police.

The CPS may decide to take no action as the burden of proof for criminal fraud is high

However once they have said “No” you can then begin a civil claim against him.

The burden of proof is lower

The case will need to be heard before a judge and it is really risky for him to lie in court as if found out it is potentially career limiting.

Once this dawns upon him it might prompt him to return your money.

Also talk to you local Citizens Advice as most of the people posting here are clueless

Op would be foolish to wait for any action from the police. That won't get her any money back and even if it did, criminal trials are taking at least 18 months. She needs to act now. Equity actions should not be delayed.

PrincessofWells · 03/06/2025 23:19

Just to add - although the small claims track is normally limited to £10000, this is such a straightforward matter you can ask for it to be allocated to the small claims track rather than fast track. That is very helpful to you because if he engaged a lawyer to appear (he'd be an idiot but sounds an idiot anyway so he may be) for him you will not be liable for any costs.

FullOfLemons · 03/06/2025 23:19

This is fraud.

He told you he was saving in an interest bearing account and then invested your funds in a volatile asset class in an ISA - in his name only.

I suspect he has lost a chunk of your money. That is his problem

I would tell him to either return you your 15k on you are reporting him to the police.

The CPS may decide to take no action as the burden of proof for criminal fraud is high

However once they have said “No” you can then begin a civil claim against him.

The burden of proof is lower

The case will need to be heard before a judge and it is really risky for him to lie in court as if found out it is potentially career limiting.

Once this dawns upon him it might prompt him to return your money.

Also talk to you local Citizens Advice as most of the people posting here are clueless

PrincessofWells · 03/06/2025 23:14

Op some of the advice on here is batshit.

You should add up the exact amount of the transfers you have made and when. Write him a letter before action along the lines of 'On the dates as listed below, I transferred the amounts as listed below into your account. The purpose of the transfers were for us both to save up for a house deposit because it was our intention to purchase a house together.

On xx date our relationship ended.

On x date you informed me you had placed my money into your isa account.

I have asked you verbally on x date and x date to return my portion of the money. You have refused.

This letter is to inform you that if the sum of £xxxx is not returned to me into account number, sort code, name on account, within 28 days of the receipt of this letter, it is my intention to ask that the court issue a claim against you.

I shall ask for the costs to be awarded against you, and that statutory interest @8% be included from the date of receipt of this letter.

I shall also ask the court that you account for my share of the interest up to the date of this letter.

Yours sincerely

That should do it.

If you don't receive the money, go onto hmcourts money claim online and issue the claim. You have a very strong case against him. Any questions?

MounjaroMounjaro · 03/06/2025 23:13

If your dad is able to help you sort this out then get him onto it ASAP. The more people who know what your ex has been up to with your money, the better.

PizzaSophiaLoren · 03/06/2025 23:11

He absolutely can return your money.

RawBloomers · 03/06/2025 23:10

If you have proof of the fact you gave him money to put in an interest bearing account as joint savings and you presumably have proof you transferred the money each month, then I would calculate what the total should be if he had done as he said and issue a letter before action demanding that money back within, say, 2 weeks.

What he has actually done with the money seems irrelevant to me, he owes you your money back with interest and you need to move forward in using the law to reclaim it.

JohnofWessex · 03/06/2025 23:10

PinkFrogss · 03/06/2025 22:52

Why would the financial conduct authority care about what individuals have done?

Would he be keen to find out?

NewBinBag · 03/06/2025 23:08

FieldRunner · 03/06/2025 22:57

I don’t know what it has been invested in, he said something about ‘level 7’ but it goes over my head if I’m honest. My dad would probably know but I feel too silly to speak to my parents.

Some investment platforms (Chip for example) use levels of 1-7 to illustrate how risky a product is. 7 is the highest risk so potential for big returns or big losses. It's irrelevant to this really, he might incur a penalty but can get your money back & he should have thought about that before risking your deposit in a high risk account without your consent.

I agree with the PP who suggested he may have lost & is bluffing in the hope it will recover. Fuck that - he can give you your 15k and take the loss on his crap investment.

Tell your Dad. If he's usually supportive, he will want to help you manage this, you don't have to worry on your own.
We all make mistakes & we all learn from them

Hulabalu · 03/06/2025 23:08

MelliC · 03/06/2025 22:55

His inability to pay doesn't particularly matter because he works in a financial industry where a crime of this nature (and it is a crime) could be awkward. He will have to find the money he stole off her and gambled without her consent by taking a loan or agreeing a payment plan.

I’m not convinced it’s a crime.
no written agreement between him & OP.

BIossomtoes · 03/06/2025 23:04

FieldRunner · 03/06/2025 22:59

I assume it doesn’t pay out interest? So just depends on the balance on any given day.

Exactly. It goes with the markets. Ours lost about 10% when Trump was playing silly buggers with tariffs but they’ve gone up a lot in the last few weeks.

cestlavielife · 03/06/2025 23:03

How is it theft? She gave him money willingly

How is it fraud? Maybe if she can show he defrauded her. ??
Op can ask for "her" money back.
He can say what money? It is my account.

Hulabalu · 03/06/2025 23:03

FieldRunner · 03/06/2025 22:59

I assume it doesn’t pay out interest? So just depends on the balance on any given day.

If there is interest it may be getting reinvested

CombatBarbie · 03/06/2025 23:03

MelliC · 03/06/2025 22:50

This is just theft.

Send him a letter laying out the details of the fraud he has perpetrated against you. Tell him he needs to return the money. How he does this is not your concern. He can take a loan out if necessary.

If he does not comply you will be issuing a claim against him, reporting him to the Financial Conduct Authority and copying his employer in to your letter. He will care about this.

Chat GPT will give you a great letter that will get results

This.....

WinSomeandLoseSome · 03/06/2025 23:03

Enrichetta · 03/06/2025 22:20

He could sell the shares tomorrow.

if he wanted.

but he doesn’t.

I fear you’ll never see this money again.

This. I have one of these accounts and you can cash it in at any time. Do you have records of what you transferred to him?

S0j0urn4r · 03/06/2025 23:02

You need proper financial and legal advice.

Hulabalu · 03/06/2025 23:01

FieldRunner · 03/06/2025 22:58

His job is in finance at the head office for a bank, I don’t think he has to register with any organisation etc

Hmm just because of this doesn’t make him expert unfortunately even though he might think he is …

ReadingSoManyThreads · 03/06/2025 23:00

PinkFrogss · 03/06/2025 22:52

Why would the financial conduct authority care about what individuals have done?

Because he works in finance for a bank. What he's done may potentially be fraud and theft.

Hulabalu · 03/06/2025 23:00

FieldRunner · 03/06/2025 22:57

I don’t know what it has been invested in, he said something about ‘level 7’ but it goes over my head if I’m honest. My dad would probably know but I feel too silly to speak to my parents.

level 7 Sounds high risk OP 😬
I am hopeful this will get sorted amicably between the two of you

FieldRunner · 03/06/2025 22:59

BIossomtoes · 03/06/2025 22:57

All stocks and shares investments are volatile. That’s why they’re only advised as a long term investment. The ISA is probably doing well at the moment, hence his reluctance to withdraw the money.

I assume it doesn’t pay out interest? So just depends on the balance on any given day.

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ohyesido · 03/06/2025 22:59

He can sell the units for the value of what you’re owed, it’s a slightly longer process as he’ll have to contact the management company and complete the administration before they’ll release “proceeds”