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to be shocked by parents drinking wine then driving with kids in car?!

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Pompompurin1 · 03/06/2025 21:10

Was at a kids party recently. Live in Scotland in the sticks. We all have to drive everywhere. About 12 kids and parents there (birthday girls house). Out came some wine and most of the parents (all mums bar one bloke) had at least one glass but some had two. Only the bloke and I declined. They all had to drive home, including down a bit of national speed limit road ….some of them had multiple
small kids in the car. All ostensibly responsible normal parents with decent jobs etc. Am I naive ?! Surely this isn’t normal?! But most of them did it.

And yea it’s illegal here to even have one drink and drive.

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RightOnTheEdge · 04/06/2025 08:24

Shocked at how many people have voted YABU.
I would never drink and drive, its just not worth the risk and I wouldn't feel that desperate for a drink.

I've got two children and I have never been to a kids party where there's been alcohol.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 04/06/2025 08:24

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 04/06/2025 08:23

I never understand the specific horror about parents driving with their own kids in the car after drinking. There is someone in my family who always gets their kids driven home by someone else if they might have a drink.😡 They love my outspoken views on that …

By my reckoning, at least if they kill their own kids, there is no room for the parents to be distraught as it’s their own choice. I’m far more worried about the other innocent folk they might kill whose parents weren’t party to the decision.

(Obviously this isn’t an entirely serious point, I have no truck with drink driving in any form.)

Yeah exactly, other people have the right not to be mown down by a drunk driver, not just their own precious kids

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 04/06/2025 08:23

I never understand the specific horror about parents driving with their own kids in the car after drinking. There is someone in my family who always gets their kids driven home by someone else if they might have a drink.😡 They love my outspoken views on that …

By my reckoning, at least if they kill their own kids, there is no room for the parents to be distraught as it’s their own choice. I’m far more worried about the other innocent folk they might kill whose parents weren’t party to the decision.

(Obviously this isn’t an entirely serious point, I have no truck with drink driving in any form.)

Pompompurin1 · 04/06/2025 08:20

A lot of drip feeding ?! I just forgot to mention that there were nibbles at the party! There are normally nibbles at parties and I’m not sure it changes much regarding the wine… so I didn’t think this was a particularly pertinent detail.

I’m not asking Mumsnet to do anything about it am I? @Renabrook Just wondering if I’m unusual for being surprised by this!

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IShouldNotCoco · 04/06/2025 08:19

If it’s illegal, it’s illegal so YANBU. In England, i would drive after one small glass of wine but that’s it.

SoftPillow · 04/06/2025 08:17

Kids parties with us sometimes have
alcohol for the adults, depending on the time and type of party.

I’m in England and would have a small glass of wine with dinner or lunch and drive a few hours later. I probably wouldn’t risk it in Scotland.

We are rural and yes some people do often drink too much and drive, mostly the older generation. Perhaps 3 or 4 glasses of wine and then ‘back roads’ home. Not something we’d ever do, but I’ve seen it done.

Renabrook · 04/06/2025 08:17

Pompompurin1 · 04/06/2025 08:14

There were nibbles

You seem to be doing a lot of drip feeding, if you think they were over the limit you should have reported them to the police not sure what MN really can do about it

ThatsNotMyTeen · 04/06/2025 08:16

I’d have got their registration numbers and called the police

Pompompurin1 · 04/06/2025 08:14

There were nibbles

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Pompompurin1 · 04/06/2025 08:13

Just to be clear it wasn’t a few hours later that they were driving. For example they were drinking till about 3:45 pm and then getting in the car at 4 pm! Fairly big glasses of wine. Some had one, a couple of them definitely had two.

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sparrowflewdown · 04/06/2025 08:10

I have had a small glass/measure of wine the current limits in England and then drove a few hours later, I wouldn't go over the limit and only with my own DC. Tbh I haven't done it often but I don't see the problem?

Renabrook · 04/06/2025 08:07

Not much different to the drinking some parents do during the day then do the school run

Barrenfieldoffucks · 04/06/2025 08:06

Bananafofana · 03/06/2025 21:51

I would drive after one glass of wine with food in a county where it was legal (I don’t know the limit in Scotland) but no way would I drink (legally) and drive with someone else’s kids in the car.

Agreed.

IwasDueANameChange · 04/06/2025 08:02

Oh and i live in England and its very common to serve alcohol to adults at a childrens party if its late afternoon. Especially for example if its at someone's home/in the garden and everyone lives a short walk away. Eg there might be trays of sparkling wine while children watch a magic show etc.

IwasDueANameChange · 04/06/2025 08:00

The only circumstances where I'd have alcohol before driving would be if there was a gap. Eg small glass of wine with lunch at 1, driving home at 4pm. Small glass of wine with supper at 7, driving home at 10.

And by small glass of wine i mean 125ml max. I can't fathom people who say "I'm only having 1" then overfill a huge glass, they've got probably 300ml in there. That's not 1, its the best part of half a bottle!!

But then i detest people who pour huge brimful glasses of wine. Even if using a big red wine glass, you're only supposed to fill it to a low level - the volume of the wine glass is to help aerate the wine.

user1476613140 · 04/06/2025 07:49

Never been to a children's party where there was alcoholic for the adults. I am in Scotland. Its all about the kids at every party. I don't personally drink alcohol but I would judge if I witnessed that incident. Especially driving children away in a car or just getting behind the wheel could affect other road users or pedestrians. Terribly selfish behaviour.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/06/2025 07:30

The OP didn’t mention food, only wine. I wouldn’t assume a few nibbles would constitute a ‘full stomach’.
YANBU, OP. Irresponsible behaviour all round except you and the one bloke.

I went to lots of kids parties when dd was little, some at places like a wacky warehouse where alcohol was available. I’ve only once ever seen a parent have a drink - a former neighbour who I’m pretty sure had an alcohol problem.

FedupofArsenalgame · 04/06/2025 07:29

Paljmens · 03/06/2025 22:23

I think I only ever went to one dc's party where alcohol was offered. It wasn't the norm where I am. And here most can walk home. Such an odd thing for the host to do.

I dunno. If I had to sit through the hell that's a kids party I'd need a glass of wine. Wouldn't be driving though

Birdsongsinging · 04/06/2025 07:28

Aaron95 · 04/06/2025 00:43

It's not that low. It is 50mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood. That compares to 80mg in England.

Most people can still drink a pint of beer of a small glass of wine and be under the limit.

Agree, the limit in Scotland is the same as in Australia. saying it is illegal to have 1 drink is not accurate - You can have one small glass of wine.

Not sure why you would want to at a kids party though.

ButterCrackers · 04/06/2025 07:26

Absolute disgrace. Make sure that these drinkers never have your kids in their cars. I’d report these selfish idiots to the police. No need for friendship with these losers. Hopefully a visit from the community police will make them think twice before drinking and driving and potentially killing people. I literally don’t care about the drinkers I care about those people and their families destroyed forever by such selfishness.

Marylou2 · 04/06/2025 07:19

Horrifying. I've never driven and had a drink. I don't drink at all now but when I did I was even wary of a couple the night before when I had an early start. I'd never car pool with these people or let them pick up my child after a party. YANBU.

Sometimeinadifferentworld · 04/06/2025 07:19

olympicsrock · 04/06/2025 06:36

I’m interested to see this OP. In my circle ( south of England) it is very normal to offer a glass of wine and some nibbles to parents at children’s parties in the same way as at other social events. I would always accept as it makes them more tolerable with all the noise.

I would also drive after a glass of wine ( I am within the limit) and feel absolutely fine to do so with my children on the car.

But surely the point is it's a social event for the children, not the adults?

It's a very sad indictment of society's attitude to children if parents have to drink alcohol to make the sound of children enjoying themselves tolerable.

Cleaningtroubles2 · 04/06/2025 07:15

Barnbrack · 04/06/2025 06:40

Google suggests a glass of wine is 3 units and drinks drive limit for women will often be in the range of 1-2 units although not precise. So you're MAYBE legal but a good chance you're not.

You need to look at the measurements.

Cleaningtroubles2 · 04/06/2025 07:14

I have been to the odd evening party for dc and wine was offered. Not day time, it’s always tea or coffee. Most people had a small glass and were fine over 2/3 hours with food. Halloween parties etc. it’s definitely worth bearing in mind we are in England and this is considered safe and legal.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/06/2025 06:48

@Pompompurin1 totally agree OP! i am in scotland too and a glass of wine would put you over the limit for driving. I just wouldnt risk it living in a village!!

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