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My mum has no interest in her grandkids

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FrineDrine · 03/06/2025 20:30

So, my mum is a lovely woman if a little unusual/eccentric. She’s in her mid-60s now. She had my brother and I when she was 23/25 and devoted herself to us, she was a fantastic mum truly. She is an English teacher and has always been very enthusiastic about her work too.

My dad passed 20 years ago when I was 20 and my brother 18. It was right before my brother was due to go to uni and my mum insists he still went and not worry about her. From here is when my mum started to change. She had been very religious up until this point but changed and said “there may well be a god but if he exists he isn’t a good one and I’m yet to see any signs that he does” she starting saying she believed after death there was nothing and that life has no great meaning, we just have to make our own meaning and get on with it. She was still loving but definitely became a lot more laissez faire. My dad’s passing had left insurance which paid off the house so she stopped trying to climb the career ladder at work. Then gradually as we got older became increasingly uninterested in our life. I remember calling her and saying I’d got a job I’d really wanted and she said “get the job, don’t get the job what does it matter we all end up in the ground anyway”. She insisted she wasn’t depressed and was actually rather happy, she said she felt free now she wasn’t being governed my so many rules and all she would obey was the law and her own moral code.
My brother and I left her to it, she seemed happy and was forever off on holiday to here, there and everywhere. 3 years ago she got a lodger as she said the house was too big on her own and she needed company, also year later the lodgers girlfriend moved in and my mum is rather fond of them. It does mean we never go and visit her now as this couple are always there but she does visit us or we go out together.

Neither my brother or I had children until our late 30s, I’m now 40 with an almost 2 year old and expecting baby 2 and my brother is 38 with a 2 year old. She’s been fairly loosely interested so far. She argues they are babies they are the none the wiser as to if she does or doesn’t visit often, and even said to my brother “I don’t get any great joy out of being around babies”.
I have just kept telling myself she will be better once my son is a bit older and babies and toddlers aren’t everyone’s cup of tea. I remind myself what a great mum she was and what a great teacher she is and believe that can’t all just disappear.

I messaged her today to let her know we are having a little party for my son the day after his birthday but as it’s school holidays she is welcome to come over before then and spend the whole weekend with us. She replied “no can do, lodger is graduating on his birthday I said I would go”. When I asked what about the party the next day she said “I’m going on holiday on the Monday, no point coming all the way to you for one night” (London to Southampton hardly a great distance).

This has left me feeling really sad, I called her and said this and she said it won’t make any difference he’s only turning 2, he won’t remember. I said I would remember and we’d look back at the pictures for the rest of his life knowing she chose her lodger and convenience over being present in my son’s life. She said “ah well be upset if you must, no real difference to me at the end of the day and I shall see you the week before and the week after I get back”.

AIBU to feel really hurt by her? I know she is very much a “it is what it is” person but I can’t deal with her not really caring about my son, and it breaks my heart to see how much she has changed since my childhood. How should I handle this?

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JamJarJane · 04/06/2025 11:09

Since the death of my DH a decade ago I've really struggled to stay emotionally connected to my family. I find it easier to connect and feel warmth towards people I'm not directly involved with. I wouldn't speak to my adult DC the way your mum spoke to you but I do see where she might be coming from. As for becoming a grandparent, the idea of more expectations and responsibility is so daunting, and the person who you want to share the joy of it with isn't there.

She did a good and generous thing telling your brother to go to uni and not worry about her, but she was then alone with her grief. That has a lasting impact - she won't go back to the person she was. It doesn't mean she doesn't care, and I suspect she's doing the best she can. I think if you can accept her as she is and not put pressure on her you might find she can get closer to you all.

Livelovebehappy · 04/06/2025 10:10

Clearly saying things as it is. Bluntly. I know some find this sort of personality trait admirable. But I find it rude and unnecessary. I dont think it's particularly her actions which are wrong, as even though hurtful, people will live their life's as they wish. But it's the way she's vetbally putting it across which seems wrong. As you've already discussed with her how you feel, and she dismisses it, there isn't anything else you can do but accept that's who she is now, and to live your own life and if she wants to pop in and out it seems that's the way it will have to be for now.

Painrelief · 04/06/2025 09:56

This makes me really sad as a Grandparent who is doing a kinship assessment for my nearly 1 yr old Grandson to come and live with me . All the effort I’ve put into it but I absolutely adore seeing his little smiles , they make it all worthwhile and I feel really quite sad for anyone who doesn’t get to experience that love from a grandchild and the fact she could have that but chooses not too makes no sense to me .

Family should be everything in life but I know for many people it isn’t . It’s such a shame that some people don’t want that special bond in their life but you can’t make them .

I see my children’s rship they have with their Nan now and it warms my heart . She will do anything she can for them and my son is definitely golden boy even at the age of 21.

I would totally feel like you feel and I hope one day your Mum comes to her senses and realises what she could have in her life .

Corneliafunk · 04/06/2025 09:50

Who does your Mother go on all these holidays with? Does she have a social life aside from interacting with the lodgers?
One of my parents is like this in their disinterest in grandchildren- hurtful :(
I have got used to the situation now that my kids are mid to late teens. My parent’s own Mother wasn’t a nice, warm grandparent to me or my siblings either - maybe it runs in the family??

yummyscummymummy01 · 04/06/2025 09:36

I understand why you might feel upset, but your son who is only 2 really won't care and won't later be doing an audit of photos to check she attended. That's the reality, the hurt that's being caused is hurt to you.
It sounds like she does still see you a lot and travels a distance to see you. I assume from this you have decided to live somewhere that is a distance from her. That is absolutely fine of course but you can't blame her for building a life for herself where she is. The reality is the lodgers are her day to day company.
If I were you I would, as others have suggested, have a little party with her when she is back and just try to make the best of things.

FrineDrine · 04/06/2025 00:45

The lodgers seem fine really, I just don’t enjoy being around them. The girlfriend is the one graduating, my mum definitely wasn’t forced to let her move in, she offered as she had grown fond of her.
They are both foreign but the guy has been in the uk for a while and he met his girlfriend when they were both in the uk, she is the one graduating.

My mum says she’s going to the graduation as her mum has passed and her dad “can’t be bothered” making the trip so she wants to be a face in the crowd with her boyfriend.

I don’t get the sense they are taking advantage of her or expect any money from her.

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catlovingdoctor · 03/06/2025 23:26

halfpastten · 03/06/2025 22:14

She said in the call that she would see you the week before and the week after her holiday. So she does care and does see you a lot. I also have a mother who is uninterested in me and her grandchildren and she hasn't visited us in 15 years, so I'd be ecstatic to have two visits a few weeks apart. Your mother is there, just not exactly when you want.

I agree, plus if it's the day immediately before a holiday maybe she wants to pack and sort herself out. London to Southampton with the travelling either end can be quite a long day.

LumpyMashedPotato · 03/06/2025 23:20

Otgers are probably right but I'm going to be honest the cynic in me was reading this thinking "well there goes the inheritance..."
She likes the lodgers more than her daughter and Grandchild.
🤯🤯🤯 😅😅😅

Your last comment here felt a bit telling but I might be off the mark “ah well be upset if you must, no real difference to me at the end of the day and I shall see you the week before and the week after I get back”.

Does she always visit/meet on her terms?
It feel like the power dynamic is tilted in her favor - does that sound fair or no?

Also i thought the fact she has a lodger shouldn't exclude you from the home you were raised in...except for that they are seem almost like "new family" and she likes you to be kept separate?
The graduation is wild... who invites the landlord? sometimes not all parents / stepparents can go to a graduation... and here he is inviting the lady who rents him a room...?!
its very odd...there's like a kind of cuckoo vibe?

Super hurtful behaviour.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 03/06/2025 23:14

Seeing you the week before and after? I do t think it’s a big deal not to be there that day. It would have been nice if she had phrased it better.

abracadabra1980 · 03/06/2025 23:12

Kittyfur · 03/06/2025 20:39

Your mum has found a new philosophy in life.
nothing matters too much in the grand scheme of things.

none of us are getting out of here alive!

she finds contentment in this:
please try not to take it personally.

live your life as you wish.

Very wise words here-agree with all of it.

Tourmalines · 03/06/2025 23:08

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 03/06/2025 22:48

My immediate reaction to the lodger and gf situation was suspicion tbh. I wouldn't trust anyone around an elderly vulnerable lady they don't know that well. Moving a gf in just doesn't feel right.

65 is not elderly .

ilovesooty · 03/06/2025 23:04

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 03/06/2025 22:48

My immediate reaction to the lodger and gf situation was suspicion tbh. I wouldn't trust anyone around an elderly vulnerable lady they don't know that well. Moving a gf in just doesn't feel right.

She's in her mid 60s and she might still be working
She's hardly "elderly and vulnerable".

dayslikethese1 · 03/06/2025 22:58

She is seeing you twice in 2 weeks though? That sounds quite involved to me. I don't think this is that bad, it's just the night in question doesn't work for her.

myfavouritemutant · 03/06/2025 22:58

FancyCatSlave · 03/06/2025 22:19

It sounds like after the death of your father she has disassociated from the people closest to her - you and your sibling and now your children. It’s a defense mechanism.

You can’t change her if she doesn’t want help.

Yes this, plus the loss of her faith which can have a huge impact on people.

I don’t know what you can do though op. I think just accept what it is, and make the most of what you do have with her.

edited to add - hadn’t seen Hillsmakeyoustronger’s post when I wrote this, but they say what I was trying to get at far better!

Hillsmakeyoustrong · 03/06/2025 22:51

I understand your hurt and I understand your mother's hurt. I also used to have a strong faith that I lost through prolonged trauma which culminated in loss. Essentially, your mother has had two bereavements, your father and her faith and that is a very dark place. So much so you can become a nihilist (or a depressive) to block the past pain and prevent future pain. You can still feel a superficial joy (in things like your lodger's grad party) but the resignation and, imho, the deep seated depression remain at the core.

Form a new normal with her and try to enjoy what is on offer. It's OK to be sad about what's no longer on offer as well.

Nevertrustacop · 03/06/2025 22:51

Honestly I don't know what this woman has done wrong. She's absolutely right. None of this does matter so she's just taking her joy as she can. She does see you and the dgc, on a schedule that suits her. But surely she has reached a stage of her life when she can prioritise herself?

Pleaseshutthefuckup · 03/06/2025 22:48

OneBlossomBee · 03/06/2025 22:38

It is hurtful for her to be so dismissive of her own DGC. It is a party for your DS and it'd be lovely for her to be there. Your mother might have some sort of long-term shock from losing her husband/your dad only in her 40s and she hasn't dealt with it. I think she needs grief counselling to help her out. Losing your religion after such a loss is not unusual and people feel there is no afterlife or god when the loss feels too great. As an atheist I agree witg her on that. The thing that sticks out though is these lodgers. First it was one guy and then his gf moves in and now she is putting his graduation over her own DGC. I'd be visiting to see exactly how these lodgers are and if they are getting TOO at home and not manipulating your mum in any way for hope of some gain in many years to come. Call me suspicious, but I'd be wary of these lodgers.

My immediate reaction to the lodger and gf situation was suspicion tbh. I wouldn't trust anyone around an elderly vulnerable lady they don't know that well. Moving a gf in just doesn't feel right.

OneBlossomBee · 03/06/2025 22:38

It is hurtful for her to be so dismissive of her own DGC. It is a party for your DS and it'd be lovely for her to be there. Your mother might have some sort of long-term shock from losing her husband/your dad only in her 40s and she hasn't dealt with it. I think she needs grief counselling to help her out. Losing your religion after such a loss is not unusual and people feel there is no afterlife or god when the loss feels too great. As an atheist I agree witg her on that. The thing that sticks out though is these lodgers. First it was one guy and then his gf moves in and now she is putting his graduation over her own DGC. I'd be visiting to see exactly how these lodgers are and if they are getting TOO at home and not manipulating your mum in any way for hope of some gain in many years to come. Call me suspicious, but I'd be wary of these lodgers.

Tallyrand · 03/06/2025 22:33

My father lives a 15 minute walk from my kids but doesn't bother visiting them. If he does ask to visit (the 2 or 3 times a year he feels the urge to), it's always at the most inconvenient times like 8pm on a Thursday night when they are in bed.

It's his loss and it's your mother's loss too.

She sounds like she is following Nihilism or something similar. She's obviously intellectually and emotionally intelligent enough to make that choice for herself.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 03/06/2025 22:28

Sorry, op, that does sound hurtful. You and your brother lost her husband too 🥺 x

Coolasfeck · 03/06/2025 22:25

I agree with PP. she’s not ‘depressed’ in the classic sense but it sounds like your fathers death upset her so much that she’s distancing herself emotionally to protect herself from further heartbreak should anything happen to any of you. She’s fearful and existing.

It’s interesting she was widowed in her 40s and there’s no mention of her ever having another partner. It sounds like she’s closed herself off from love out of fear.

I feel sorry for you but I feel very sorry for her.

LateOnTheBandwagon · 03/06/2025 22:23

If she is visiting the week before her holiday and the week after, surely that shows she cares. When my children were that age, their birthday was definitely moveable and (miraculously!) always at the weekend, sometimes two weekends on the run if it was convenient. Get extra cake and blow out extra candles for your pictures - the date isn't important.

OrangeCrushes · 03/06/2025 22:21

FancyCatSlave · 03/06/2025 22:19

It sounds like after the death of your father she has disassociated from the people closest to her - you and your sibling and now your children. It’s a defense mechanism.

You can’t change her if she doesn’t want help.

I think this is quite perceptive

FancyCatSlave · 03/06/2025 22:19

It sounds like after the death of your father she has disassociated from the people closest to her - you and your sibling and now your children. It’s a defense mechanism.

You can’t change her if she doesn’t want help.

stayathomer · 03/06/2025 22:18

Op I don’t think this is anything to do with you or your children- your mum has decided to just exist. I don’t really get that you can be hurt by it, I’d get you feeling sad about it but yes as others have said I don’t think there’s much you can do