Child’s Friend Calling DH A Racist Name

I refuse to explain to you what stereotyping is. I’ve invested enough time and energy in this post. It’s just getting to be like Groundhog Day - round in circles, getting nowhere. I don’t want to derail OPs post by getting pulled into other posters’ agendas. I suggest you go back to helping the OP with her request for advice/help…….

My opinion is that you’re a racist. Just my opinion, but I’m holding on to it.

Right time for sleep.

I’ve changed my username just to agree with you! I’m mixed race, part East Asian. The most horrific racial abuse I’ve experienced is from non-white people (although I’ve heard racism is really bad in certain mainland European countries). I’m in my 20s and experienced a lot of racism when I was at school.

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Stereotyping based on......?

That’s because you’re not SE Asian descent.

Not uncomfortable at all. I’ve defended my opinions. Not once have I said OP doesn’t have the right to be offended. She does. I’m disagreeing it’s racist, but in my opinion is stereotyping. I can’t help it if you don’t agree with my opinion. But we all have a right to voice our own opinion on something, right?

Was that a little joke in there too?

I see too that you’re answering my point.

Clearly baiting

I’ve just re-read this…. It is racist but you also have to think about how a 5 year old may see a Japanese person and a Vietnamese as looking similar they are still so young and may not differentiate ethnicity between people yet, that said she may have watched some karate film/programme and that’s where it’s come from. I’m not excusing it just trying to play devils advocate. Also if the parents don’t know this is being said how can they educate going forward?
Also bullying in reception….. WTF! That’s terrible. What kind of things is your DD saying to make you think she’s being bullied?

I went to primary school in 1996. Karate chops was a racist insult used then. That has 100% come from an adult. I'd raise it with the school tbh, it could have been a part of the bullying that DD hasn't mentioned

You got a shitload more patience than me!

You aren’t the arbiter in this situation of what’s offensive FYI! That’s the whole point of racism.

And you didn’t address my earlier point: I am British-East Asian. I wouldn’t consider “karate chops” offensive because I’d think the person saying it a fucking idiot and pity them. I cant ve offended by someone I pity. However, I do think the phrase is racist.

The OP has said she finds it racist. You keep on derailing this thread by ignorantly maintaining it isn’t. God, why? Why would you reduce OP’s feelings and invalidate like this? Take a hint.

And, yes, I did report your posts.

I'm not being aggressive, just mocking your level of ignorance. Really, I'm being generous by assuming your ignorance to be genuine (and not faux-ignorant, racist apologism).

But hey, let's see if we can help you out. You've said that calling a British Vietnamese person "karate chop" is offensive; care to explain why its offensive? Would it be an equally offensive name to confer upon someone who is White British?

To assist you in your analysis (so that you don't have to delve into when stereotyping by nationality is or is not racist) let me point out that:

1. karate originated from, and is famously associated with, Japan.

1. Japan and Vietnam are different countries (separated by roughly the same distance as the UK from Azerbaijan).

1. Karate is not notably popular in Vietnam (in fact, it's far more popular and established in the UK).

That’s an odd inference to make, but I guess it’s deflection. You’re uncomfortable defending your opinions?

Nope. Never said ‘tad’ offensive. I said name calling is offensive. No-one should be on the receiving end of name calling.

Lovely, so you’ve said your “opinion”, no need to keep coming back on here and telling us it’s not racist and cementing in society that these kind of phrases are totally passable, just a tad offensive.

Your crusade on pointless semantics really helping kids out there. Cheers.

But the same poster calling me stupid is okay? She’s lucky I’m only being ‘patronising’ and not responding back in the same aggressive tone that she is using.

It’s not. But telling some to, “Please. Just calm down” is patronising. As is the guff about deep breaths.

Thanks. I get that @MagsterMum is trying to say this wasn’t racist, but her reasoning is unclear.

So he’s called ‘karate’ and it’s clear that this is linked to his SE Asian race, but it’s not racist. Why isn’t it racist then, isn’t that the whole point of race based slurs?

Ignore them, they’re trolling on several threads

Your “comments” (stated as gospel fact at 11.32, not your “opinions”) are so so harmful and ignorant. That’s why people have picked you up on your posts. Frankly, unless you are a British-East Asian, your comments don’t hold weight. You’ve otherwise never experienced comments like this, ergo, you don’t have a lived experience, ergo, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Frankly, you’re being OFFENSIVE to those of us who have experienced similar comments, so just stop. It’s embarrassing.

Why is it patronising to agree to disagree?

Has David Cameron joined the chat with this patronising guff?