Child’s Friend Calling DH A Racist Name

Bit concerning that there is bullying in reception. If teachers cannot ensure 5yr old children treat each other with respect, there is little hope that older children will behave well. Iwould have already pulled my child out and been very vocal as to why

@Dweetfidilove - that’s it, isn’t it? “Willful ignorance”

Honestly, I despair.

Trust me - they do. I have seen this denial levied at Black folks, South and East Asian folks on MN. No-one is immune to the wilful ignorance that dwells on MN.
They ignorant even travel over to Black MN and other spaces to spew their vitriol

@kurotora , I'm sorry tour husband has been subjected to this and your daughter to bullying in school.

A term can be as explicitly racist as anything and some idiot will pop up on MN to question/deny/twist themselves into knots to tell you it isn't so.
Those who wish to remain ignorant or have no purpose but to derail a thread cannot be reasoned with.

I hope the child hasn't picked this up at home, but the mother can help them see why the term is offensive/stop them using it.

A grown woman shouldn’t be asking others to provide her with a link to explain racism! JFC. You not being able to see what’s in front of your face is the problem. Not anyone’s explanation.

FWIW, “lumping together of stereotypes” IS racism. Just accept it. You don’t lose anything. Or, don’t, and go say this shit in public and watch someone lose it at you. In fact, fuck it. Go to a Chinese take away and start calling them Karate Chops and see how far you get. See if you think it’s racist then.

People like you make my life and those of others and probably my children so much harder, and you keep resurfacing on this thread like an ignoramus like you think you’re challenging The Man or something. Just stop. You make the world worse and harder for others.

Non-exhaustively (because WTF am I spending time on educating someone who just refuses to listen or accept) and some in direct response to you:

3rd June 5.23pm
3rd June 5.28pm
3rd June 6.02pm
3rd June 6.07pm
3rd June 6.40pm

Theres a difference between “educating” and “wanting to be educated”. You don’t want to be educated; you’re happier with your head in the sand.

Stop embarrassing yourself and arguing with those in the relevant ethnic group. No way on earth would you be telling a group of black women that a racist phrase said to them wasn’t racist or, worse, to justify why it wasn’t racist.

THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM PEOPLE FACE EVERYDAY. Does it only count to you if someone is lynched or in a KKK outfit? Jesus, cop on.

People HAVE explained, and in direct response to you (I’ll list those times shortly) but you just don’t want to accept it, like you know better than some actual British-East Asians who have told you it’s a racist phrase. Just because you don’t understand or accept it doesn’t make it not racist.

Thanks. Quote me a post where someone has explained. This is the problem - I wasn't playing down the importance of this with the phrase "cry racism". But the constant "oh is that racist", "oh, should I be offended by that?", takes away from the real problems that people face every day with regards to racism.

Everyone is expected to know what language and words to use and next thing, they're offensive. I am not arguing that the phrase / name "karate chop" is not offensive or racist. But I am also not going to be told that it is with no explanation or background. And please the "lumping together of stereotypes" in this case doesn't really fit.

You say "educate yourself", well tell me then. Or offer a link to educate me. Like I said, on google I can't find anything to explain this.

Wow. “Cry racism” just wow.
Many posters have explained to you why it’s racist.
As for ‘trying to make you look stupid’, you’ve managed that perfectly well yourself.

Literally TENS of people have explained why it’s racist.

I can’t believe people are saying terms are not racist simply because they haven’t heard of them. Such an unintelligent thing to say.

Well this is quite an un-intelligent thing to say as well. How does anyone know any word until they've heard it / read it for the first time?

I've heard plenty of words be said which are 100% racist but didn't know until I asked. E.g. my ex FIL used a word when speaking of a certain race, I asked my husband what the word meant and he said it was a derogatory / racist term for people from a certain country. I was about 29 and I had never heard that word. So don't try and make people feel stupid. I asked people on this thread to explain exactly why the phrase is racist, but no one has. Because they can't, it's easier to cry "racism" than understand it.

Sorry - what shall I google exactly? That's such an easy thing for you to say. "Go educate yourself". And yes I do think people should explain because "racism" is thrown around so casually today that it actually makes it worse. This was a kid saying this. A lot of racism is about intent as well as language.

Read the thread.

”racist” doesn’t mean “mean against someone of race X”…

Also, errrr, point in action, kung fu ain’t Vietnamese. So, it’s lumping races together that is racist. The comment is racist.

It's not obviously racist, the kid could have seen a kung fu movie, cartoon etc, and he likes this, and as another kid has a parent who looks like this, he's innocently called him kung fu dad.

You could argue that there are racist connotations behind it, but then you're starting to look very deeply into a comment froma 5 year old. I'd monitor, quick word with the other mom. Who will likely be mortified, as you already seem to have a grasp of her OP.

Well, given 90% of your posts have been deleted by MN (ironically I think also the one where you told us to report them and let MN decide if you were being racist and apologist), your opinion is indeed wrong!

I’ve endured vicious racist attacks from children and adults since I was 5 years old. I know that 5 year olds understand racism, even if it’s as basic as knowing that certain words are only used towards people who look different (race). I’m guessing that you are white and/or never experienced racism. Shut up with your privilege.

No one or at least most people on this thread aren’t suggesting East Asians don’t suffer racism. Of course they do. Always have done.

All ethnic minorities have reported an uptick in racism over the last few years actually.

Other minorities can be prejudice towards East Asians too yes, and they in turn can be prejudiced towards other minorities too.

ETA: it’s absolutely disgusting that any child (or adult for that matter) is getting called the C slur. I’m so glad I wasn’t raised like that. These children are getting it from their parents/relatives in most cases.

Racial prejudice towards East Asians in the UK and US has been tremendous since Covid and has even resulted in violent beatings and deaths. Just because they tend towards a quietist attitude like OP's DH does not mean the racism does not exist. My friend's daughter is mixed race - white and Indian (from NE India)- and looks slightly east asian. She has been called 'chink' in her NI school. All of this is more widespread than you think and it comes from other migrant/minority groups as well.

I think despite 5 year olds probably being unaware of racism, they should be taught to never call other people by anything other than their names. No random nicknames. It is a simple rule.

For someone apparently so concerned about being "classy", your string of (completely unwarranted) insults, here, spectacularly misses the mark.

Five year old children have only a very vague concept of race at all, it's too abstract. Children are not just tiny adults.

They may know something is rude and annoying and do it for that reason, which is also developmentally normal. Or, they may just think it's quite funny. Many aren't sensitive souls.

Most 5 year olds have a fairly undeveloped sense of others as people with their own interior lives, and are not good at understanding the emotional and interior intellectual lives of others. There is also a large normal range in terms of cognitive development among children of that age. .

It's probably a good thing you wouldn't come into contact with a child saying something that we adults know to be inappropriate as you don't seem remotely capable of dealing with it.

Yes, you did say that it was a racist comment but you didn't think it needed to be addressed in any way because kids will be kids and we can't control what people say. Which was somewhat ironic, given that you then started to object to my use of language, but whatever.

You have realised that you are unable to defend your point so you're now resorting to insults. That's fine, I understand that you have nothing else left to fall back on.

Enjoy the rest of your evening.

Are you a little uneducated???? I’ve said it’s a racist comment!? Can you read???? Do you argue with a brick wall!?! And I’ll say it again…. I don’t have discussions with people who choose swearing as a form of trying to get their point across. It’s not very classy!

You don't have to keep coming back if it's boring you. Other threads are available.

’Boooooring’