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Fecking sports day

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HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 15:11

DD is in yr 7 and I've just found out they still have sports day - in secondary. DD is unsporty, uncoordinated and uncompetitive. She hates it. I hated it. I still hate it. It's miserable for her. She tries her best and is very supportive of her mates. But it still makes her feel shit about herself and has done every year that she's had to do it. Despite all our positive reinforcement and conversations about taking part, blah di blah di blah... And I thought we were finally done with it (for her) when she left primary last year. But no...

She is active, gets movement and exercise in ways she enjoys, btw. So it's not about that. But it really hacks me off. No one is making kids do maths or art or science competitively and in public. So why is it ok to make them do this for sport?

Btw - I have a younger DC who is super sporty and fast. But they also hate sports day (finds it really stressful and gets very nervous).

Why do schools do this? Why is it ok to do this for sport but not other subjects? It's just bloody mean to unsporty/ uncoordinated kids...

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HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 17:09

And saying that regular maths (etc) lessons is equivalent to sports day just doesn't hold. Regular maths lessons are equivalent to weekly PE and Games, in which DD struggles, but gets on with it - so all her classmates and PE teachers are fully aware that she's not sporty in the same way that her classmates and maths teachers are aware of the ones who aren't mathsy. I'm not saying kids shouldn't be made to do/ learn things they're not good at. I'm not trying to get her out of weekly PE or Games. I just don't think they shoudl be made to compete at it, in public.

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louderthan · 03/06/2025 17:08

I was speaking to a friend about this at the weekend; we were at secondary school together and agree that sports day humiliation (and the associated bullying) had a profound and negative effect on our self esteem that has followed us into adulthood. We’re both very active now: he cycles to and from work every day, has run marathons and goes to the gym; I go horse riding twice a week, do Pilates/spin/weights at the gym and regularly hike 10-15 miles.
It so short-sighted for schools to do this, not to mention potentially ableist.
I’d be very interested to hear the rationale behind it!

lilydragon · 03/06/2025 17:03

I was really, really crap at athletics but we were made to participate at sports day all the way to the end of high school, in at least three events each. It’s fine, it didn’t scar me for life though I probably moaned about it at the time and I’m sure my parents told me to suck it up, it being the 80s and 90s. Someone has to come last, there will be other things she’s good at. I do think kids need to learn resilience which includes doing things that you don’t like without parents jumping to the rescue and encouraging them to find a way to get out of it. I don’t think the ‘public’ element makes any difference tbh, you can be sure everyone at school knows who is good at maths, spelling or whatever and also who is bottom of the class.

HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 17:01

By 'soul destroying' I mean that it makes her feel bad about herself, physically. Which is anyway a bit of a thing for 12-year-old girls. Especially non-athletically-built ones (like my DD). And you tell me it's not when you have to watch DD get increasingly anxious about it, often resulting in not being able to get to sleep, etc. An over-reaction? Possibly. But she's 12 and autistic and adhd and gets very anxious and fixated on (negative) things. We're working on it, but it's not an easy 'fix' and it's not helped by things like this that exaccerbate her sense of being different or not good enough.

And I don't think that doing lessons day in and day out is the same as a big 'event', with other years and parents and teachers. Sure, if they call the whole of years 7, 8 & 9 into a maths lesson and then call on students to provide answers, then yes. But obvs that's not what happens.

I have no issue with the sporty ones getting to shine or sports day fundamentally, and neither does DD. She always celebrates her sporty friends' successes and is proud of them. It's the compulsory nature of it. That's genuinely my only issue.

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AllProperTeaIsTheft · 03/06/2025 17:00

No one is making kids do maths or art or science competitively and in public

They kind of are though. Every day in secondary school, through tests, questioning in class etc it is blatantly obvious who is good and bad at all the school subjects. Lots of lessons involve competitive activities, because they are motivating and kids generally like them. I wasn't a sporty person at school either, but I don't really see why the sporty kids shouldn't have the opportunity to shine once a year, when the academic kids get to shine every day.

hydriotaphia · 03/06/2025 16:54

I'm not sure I agree that there are not equivalent maths/art/ etc days. School lessons are all very public - teachers call on students, students work in groups, students swap tests to be marked sometimes, classes are divided up into sets according to ability, children take "higher" or "lower" versions of GCSEs. A class of kids gets to know very quickly their peers' strengths and weaknesses. As long as there is a positive and supportive environment I think this is fine.

I also agree with a PP that in fact most of school is about academic performance, and that it is nice to give kids who are not academic a time to shine in other areas including sports. Put it this way - I think school is harder for the kids who love sports day but struggle in lessons, than for those who enjoy their lessons and struggle on sports day.

To the OP I totally get your protectiveness but is it possible that by referring to it all as "soul-destroying" etc you are buying into a bit of catastrophising?

HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:51

Stirabout · 03/06/2025 16:49

Everyone had to take part in our schools up to 16
Ours had javelin and shotput ( spelling? ) and things like the long jump. It isn’t outing either as you’re not all doing it together.

Can your dc do those
If the school don’t do those in the long run why not suggest it.

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They do. She dislikes them just as much as running and is just as not good at them. But point taken (made by others) that at least they're less visible and I'm sure these will be the things she chooses (if they get to choose) as the lesser of evils...

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HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:49

KIlliePieMyOhMy · 03/06/2025 16:47

simply this.

see my umpteen previous responses to this!

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Stirabout · 03/06/2025 16:49

HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 15:25

She'd be up for tug of war!

I think she's dyspraxic too. She is autistic and ADHD, and dyspraxia fits with the challenges she's had with anything balance related (learning to scoot, ride a bike, climb things, get on and off escalators, etc).

She would absolutely hate to be let off it for this reason though. She doesn't want to be 'different'

Everyone had to take part in our schools up to 16
Ours had javelin and shotput ( spelling? ) and things like the long jump. It isn’t outing either as you’re not all doing it together.

Can your dc do those
If the school don’t do those in the long run why not suggest it.

HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:49

minnienono · 03/06/2025 16:44

There was secondary sports day when I was at school and my dc. My non sporty one used to sign up for the jokey races like three legged or persuade a teacher to let her do scoring(she has asd so they usually let her do whatever she was comfortable with)

no jokey races, unfortunately

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HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:48

latetothefisting · 03/06/2025 16:42

Well at that point it's up to her. There isn't some magical third option whereby the school suddenly decide to cancel it just because of your dd. They will have had multiple kids every year that hate sports day, they obviously know not everyone loves it, but for whatever reason they think it's worth doing.

It sounds like you're giving it more headspace than she is and making it a bigger deal than it needs to be. Just say to her "yes it's rubbish but there will be lots of things in life that you don't want to do and dont see the point in. I'm happy to write you a note if you don't go in but it's up to you."

That's what we did in the sponsored run (which she did do in the end).

I guess the point of this thread isn't how to handle this situation for DD (I'm happy with the way we're doing that). It's on the mere existence of sports days when there aren't equivalent maths/ art/ etc days where kids are made to publically compete in something. That is the point.

I like the idea of voluntary sports days with others helping out/ cheering on/ gossiping. That I have no issue with at all. Let the sporty/ competitive ones have their day! But don't make everyone participate.

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KIlliePieMyOhMy · 03/06/2025 16:47

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 15:12

Could she be not feeling very well on the day?

😉🫣😬

Cue all the 'we all have to do things we don't like' martyrs.

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simply this.

OchAyeTheNo0 · 03/06/2025 16:45

I was the same as your DD. I think I did one or two and then was off ‘sick’ for all other years.

minnienono · 03/06/2025 16:44

There was secondary sports day when I was at school and my dc. My non sporty one used to sign up for the jokey races like three legged or persuade a teacher to let her do scoring(she has asd so they usually let her do whatever she was comfortable with)

HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:44

taptaroundtheworld · 03/06/2025 16:38

How are they doing it?
Ours -year 7- was on an opt in basis per event. Everyone had to opt into 2 that ranged from serious races to fun stuff. Burgers and hotdogs for lunch plus ice lollies. It was actually fun ;)

That sounds fun! Even I would have probably not hated that at school. I'm really hoping they don't have to compete in every event (not least because the thing would last for days)... But she hated discus/ javelin/ shot put a lot when they practiced it a few weeks ago. Throwing is not her thing... Nor jumping (balance thing). Nor running... There is literally nothing on the schedule that is stuff she enjoys doing or is good at. Yet she will have to do it competitively.

But yes, I do hear you all on the fact that at least the throwing and jumping stuff tends to be tucked away a bit and less public than coming last in a running race

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latetothefisting · 03/06/2025 16:42

HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:34

As I said, I'd happily do this, but she contrarily doesn't want to be 'let off it'

Well at that point it's up to her. There isn't some magical third option whereby the school suddenly decide to cancel it just because of your dd. They will have had multiple kids every year that hate sports day, they obviously know not everyone loves it, but for whatever reason they think it's worth doing.

It sounds like you're giving it more headspace than she is and making it a bigger deal than it needs to be. Just say to her "yes it's rubbish but there will be lots of things in life that you don't want to do and dont see the point in. I'm happy to write you a note if you don't go in but it's up to you."

StripyShirt · 03/06/2025 16:41

My group of friends used to compete to see who could be last in any race. So much more fun 😃

HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:38

elliejjtiny · 03/06/2025 16:33

Can you talk to the form tutor and ask if she could help instead of at least one event? We had to do 3 events at our secondary sports day so I would be in charge of putting the pole on the high jumper it got knocked off (2 house points), long jump (because it was at the other end of the field so hardly anyone was watching, 1 house point) and discus because hardly anyone did it so I would get 2 house points for participation and 2 for coming 7th out of 7.

god she'd hate that! She doesn't want people to know she can't do it. If she was singled out for this kind of special treatment she'd be mortified

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taptaroundtheworld · 03/06/2025 16:38

How are they doing it?
Ours -year 7- was on an opt in basis per event. Everyone had to opt into 2 that ranged from serious races to fun stuff. Burgers and hotdogs for lunch plus ice lollies. It was actually fun ;)

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 03/06/2025 16:38

Compulsory engagmeent and open to parents as well - honestly it sounds like hell.

Either you talk her into being ill that day or try for less popular sports - shot put was another of my kids favorite - or talk to someone else at the school and see if they are better than previous PE teacher and have any helpful suggestions.

HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:37

hydriotaphia · 03/06/2025 16:20

I had sports day all the way to secondary up to GSCE. I was deeply unsporty and a bit fat. Honestly, it was a day of mostly sitting around chatting to friends while not paying any attention to the races etc. I used to volunteer for shotput and javelin which were undertaken mostly by fellow skivers at the far end of the sports field.

More seriously, I think that it's fine to be bad at something? I think that it's good to listen to your daughter's worries but I wouldn't let her know your outrage - this does sound a bit like you agree that it is inherently traumatic to be exposed as not being good at sport, when in fact I don't think that is right. It's fine to be bad at sport/be slow in a race etc. I think that this is a moment she can learn resilience and not to catastophise.

Honestly, I absolutely think it's fine to be not good at things. I am not good at many things. I'm just not made to do them publicly, competitively, in front of people who I really care what they think about me (aka all classmates for a 12-yo girl).

We do talk about this a lot. We talk about our strengths and weaknesses. But it doesn't make it any less soul-destroying for her

And no, I don't think it's 'traumatic'. But I do think it's shit and unnecessary

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MattCauthon · 03/06/2025 16:37

HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:35

She has autism and ADHD. Asking her to 'not overthink' is like asking her to run fast. She just can't do it (yet)

I get this. does she get to choose her competition? I recommend long jump. It's extremely short, no one pays much attention, it's done one at a time so any huge differences between individuals is less noticeable and she's done.

ie help her to select the least painful and upsetting option.

HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:35

Neemie · 03/06/2025 16:20

Secondary school sports days tend to be a bit of a low key muddle with nobody taking much notice of anyone unless they are one of the top few sports people in the school. I would encourage your daughter not to overthink it.

She has autism and ADHD. Asking her to 'not overthink' is like asking her to run fast. She just can't do it (yet)

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HippyKayYay · 03/06/2025 16:34

Meadowfinch · 03/06/2025 16:09

Pull her out of school for the day and don't give it another thought. Blame it on a bad period. Honestly, no-one will care. Take her for a walk on a beach.

My happy, enthusiastic ds was made utterly miserable by primary school sports day. I tried to encourage him. Did all I was supposed to.

After the year 6 day, in the car home, he very calmly and quietly told me that if he ever had to do that again, he would kill himself. 😳

It has taken six years of a brilliant set of sports teachers at his lovely senior school to rebuild his confidence.

Don't put your DD through it. Spare her.

As I said, I'd happily do this, but she contrarily doesn't want to be 'let off it'

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HiRen · 03/06/2025 16:34

DS is super sporty, loves sports day, wins the trophies etc.

DD is the exact opposite, hates any form of physical exercise and doesn't see the point of it. She embraces it 😁. She knows she's going to come last, tells her friends someone has to so she's doing them a favour, she routinely gets the biggest cheer and tonnes of encouragement from her friends who lap her 😂 with the biggest smile on her face and lots of "well done!"s. She's participating and that's enough for her. She's being a good sport.

TBH, her sports days are a lot more fun than DS's!

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