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Saying no a playdate

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Youbutterbelieve · 03/06/2025 10:29

DC2(6) has made a friend in her new school. Kid seems fine, she's coming over for a play tomorrow after much nagging by DD.

I think at some point we'll get an invite back but I absolutely do not want DD going over to their house. DD does have playdates with other friends at their houses and I'm not a helicopter mum but I really don't feel this home is one I'd want DD in.

How do I say no? I don't want to offend the mum or cause issues with DD friendship.

OP posts:
AguNwaanyi · 03/06/2025 15:45

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:44

Thank you!!

added to which, reported to school… either very recently and not had a chance for any change in this poor child’s situation OR reported when first aware of the neglect and the school has achieved the square root of zero in improving her quality of life

Yup OP is prioritising her own daughter having someone for playdates over this other child's wellbeing, which according to her own words, is at risk

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:44

AguNwaanyi · 03/06/2025 15:41

Sorry but your priorities are😬
You are a social worker who is seeing a child is being neglected in her home environment and your main concern is avoiding an awkward invitation to their house. You have spoke to the school but not reported to social services when you work there. You think your own daughter is more at risk of losing a friend when this neglected baby is going to school with a bad smell, a more likely deterrent to building friendships.

Thank you!!

added to which, reported to school… either very recently and not had a chance for any change in this poor child’s situation OR reported when first aware of the neglect and the school has achieved the square root of zero in improving her quality of life

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/06/2025 15:42

No, definitely not.
I never let my DC go to homes without supervision.
I don't care about a mess as long as the parent is responsible.
If your happy to have her friend over, just say no, you prefer to host.

AguNwaanyi · 03/06/2025 15:41

Youbutterbelieve · 03/06/2025 14:02

So dd has already been invited over. I told them we were on holiday (we were) and then I've invited her here on this occasion but I do think she will get an invite back - thanks to you lot I'm now armed with a miriad of excuses!

I see mum fairly regularly at school pick up.

I'm a social worker so don't worry, I've done my due diligence in this particular case!

I'm worried that the mum will get offended and want to stop her DD playing with mine at school and there's only 3 other girls in the class.

Sorry but your priorities are😬
You are a social worker who is seeing a child is being neglected in her home environment and your main concern is avoiding an awkward invitation to their house. You have spoke to the school but not reported to social services when you work there. You think your own daughter is more at risk of losing a friend when this neglected baby is going to school with a bad smell, a more likely deterrent to building friendships.

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:38

Bepo77 · 03/06/2025 15:30

Do you really think, with a child that's being neglected by their parents, left alone outside, unsupervised constantly, living in dirty clothes/bedding, that people smoking weed is the thing to focus on here??

It is ALL linked
and likely much much worse behind closed door
the cannabis is the route in as I would reckon grown and sold there from what op says

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:36

How long ago did you report to school op?

SuperTrooper14 · 03/06/2025 15:35

B1anche · 03/06/2025 15:30

Oh bore off and stop trying to derail the thread.

But that poster has a point. So many kids fall down the cracks because of bureaucracy. OP is saying the child is showing clear signs of neglect, is apparently exposed to drug taking in the home and appears to have no adult supervision but as a social worker it's not in her job description to raise a red flag.

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:35

Worldwide99 · 03/06/2025 15:33

Well yes, drug taking in the home of children is wrong, regardless of which drug is being consumed.

Added to which, it will likely be the tip of the iceberg

probably being frowned upon and sold there if lots of adults in and out as the op describes

Worldwide99 · 03/06/2025 15:33

Bepo77 · 03/06/2025 15:30

Do you really think, with a child that's being neglected by their parents, left alone outside, unsupervised constantly, living in dirty clothes/bedding, that people smoking weed is the thing to focus on here??

Well yes, drug taking in the home of children is wrong, regardless of which drug is being consumed.

YourSignalFadedIntoAnotherWorld · 03/06/2025 15:33

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:27

If it was excessive
If the report came from a SW
If it involved a young child
If said young child had already been referred to the school for neglect

then yes… something would be done

Yes I agree but none of those criteria are part of this thread.

Worldwide99 · 03/06/2025 15:32

I was ‘that child’ and it is so important to still invite them over and if you can to help in any way. I would have been embarrassed inviting anyone over to my house and I recognised this from very young. I remember one time spending so much time preparing my bedroom for a sleepover I had planned with two girls from my class for a birthday. Their parents allowed them to stay. I tidied and tidied my room. My mum stayed up drinking all night with her ‘mates’. I couldn’t take my friends downstairs the next morning for breakfast as there wasn’t any and I spent all night listening out for the signs of drunken adults rambling around my home. I was I say around 8.
I am very protective of my children. I have escaped the abuse and neglect and my children will never experience it so I wouldn’t think twice about saying no, but, please try to make the friend continue to feel welcome.

SuperTrooper14 · 03/06/2025 15:30

Youbutterbelieve · 03/06/2025 14:43

No I haven't reported to the police. It's not required, or even advised. Cannabis smoking in a private dwelling isn't a reportable issue to either police or social services.

Neglect is a safeguarding red flag though. My OH is a primary school teacher and is trained to look out for signs of a child coming to school unwashed etc. You said this kid is that child. So, combined with the lack of adult supervision and being exposed to drug taking, that's surely enough to raise at work? if you really are a social worker

Bepo77 · 03/06/2025 15:30

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:28

I reported my neighbour
the smell coming through the wall
there was no child in their home but there was in mine
but still the police attended and the smoking eased up MASSIVELY thank goodness

Do you really think, with a child that's being neglected by their parents, left alone outside, unsupervised constantly, living in dirty clothes/bedding, that people smoking weed is the thing to focus on here??

B1anche · 03/06/2025 15:30

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 14:54

So as a parent and a SW FGS you’re benchmark is “legal requirement” before reporting an illegal offence where a child is living?

depressing

Edited

Oh bore off and stop trying to derail the thread.

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:28

YourSignalFadedIntoAnotherWorld · 03/06/2025 15:13

Have you ever actually done this in the UK though. Not a chance anything would be done.

I reported my neighbour
the smell coming through the wall
there was no child in their home but there was in mine
but still the police attended and the smoking eased up MASSIVELY thank goodness

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:27

YourSignalFadedIntoAnotherWorld · 03/06/2025 15:13

Have you ever actually done this in the UK though. Not a chance anything would be done.

If it was excessive
If the report came from a SW
If it involved a young child
If said young child had already been referred to the school for neglect

then yes… something would be done

YourSignalFadedIntoAnotherWorld · 03/06/2025 15:13

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 14:50

Cannabis smoking in a private dwelling isn't a reportable issue to either police or social services.

oh dear

op, it is illegal
therefore is is “reportable”

dear god

Have you ever actually done this in the UK though. Not a chance anything would be done.

3awesomestars · 03/06/2025 15:13

Sorry you are being challenged over your job, I too am a CP social worker and everything you have said is proportionate, we could not possibly respond to every family where cannibis is present. If the support around the family suspect this is a contributing factor to the neglect then it will be addressed.
You have been given some good advice about your OP.

Youbutterbelieve · 03/06/2025 15:07

arcticpandas · 03/06/2025 14:58

@Youbutterbelieve Just be careful OP. I'm a former social worker and my son had a friend who was neglected. I invited him over/took them out a lot because he was an adorable boy, my son liked playing with him and I wanted to be a "safe" adult for the child. The problem is that with a certain kind of people things can get hostile very easily. One day out of nowhere at the school run she started screaming at my son and at me for my son having told her son to not copy him during a test. The teacher had heard it and had moved their seats. A minor issue really but with this unhinged person it became very volatile. Her son wasn't allowed to play with mine anymore. So just tread carefully and don't get too entangled.

Yeah I'm trying to keep a cordial relationship and maintain a friendship between my daughter and her friend whilst not massively encouraging.

OP posts:
Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:06

So what was the other thread talking about clients being pissed off with male carers in the care home that you work for?

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:05

Youbutterbelieve · 03/06/2025 15:05

You do realise people can have 2 jobs right?

I'm a qualified and registered social worker who has 20 years local authority experience and currently works as a guest lecturer and long arm practice educator whilst maintaining a 4 day a week job in tech!

Sure you do op
sure you do

Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:05

Which is what op posted a few days ago

Youbutterbelieve · 03/06/2025 15:05

You do realise people can have 2 jobs right?

I'm a qualified and registered social worker who has 20 years local authority experience and currently works as a guest lecturer and long arm practice educator whilst maintaining a 4 day a week job in tech!

OP posts:
Thesecondcoff · 03/06/2025 15:05

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 03/06/2025 14:59

Oh for goodness sake!! Are you just looking for an argument?

This is a social worker who knows that something illegal is happening that impacts very heavily on a young child and she’s not reporting to police because she is not legally required to.

You think that’s ok.

in any event, I don’t think the OP is a sw unless suddenly sw describe it as “development” “male dominated industry” and “works 99% from home”

supersonicginandtonic · 03/06/2025 15:03

I work with families in a safeguarding role within a substance misuse team. Over the last 2 days I've attended 5 properties where the parents are known to smoke cannabis. You cannot report every occurrence to the police, it's a waste of resources. Social care are aware of all the families but even then it does not always meet threshold for involvement.

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