Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To feel sad after rejection from school Mum

339 replies

Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 00:30

DS is finishing Year 1 in school, he is best friends with another little boy since reception. Despite efforts the boys mother has shown no interest in playdates etc, ive invited her to the park twice and also to a local child disco. Her responses are usually friendly but just stating she's busy.
That's all fine, I know people have busy lifes but ive noticed recently she's ignoring me at events and almost being rude. Ive passed her a few times on school drop off and she usually avoids eye contact, we were recently at a kids sports event our kids were attending and she walked round behind the pitch to sit on the opposite side from me, no hello or acknowledgement. I did go over and say a quick hello, she was cordial but I wouldn't say friendly. Another school event she basically walked past me and sat with another group and I noticed she came over to a few people to chat briefly during the event but ignored me, despite me sitting not very far from others she spoke with. My DS is quite keen on this other boy and they would be close in school according to the teacher.
AIBU to feel sad about this? Im not sure what else I can do without coming across as full on as she clearly doesn't want even a friendly relationship with me despite seeming friendly with lots of other school mums from the class.

OP posts:
BobnBrenda · 03/06/2025 10:51

Sometimes, it’s nothing at all to do with you, and might be everything to do with them, especially if, as you say, her kid is quite badly behaved.
We had a similar situation, and I felt really upset about it - but my husband reckoned the mum was actually embarrassed by her own kid - who could be pretty punchy - so kept him on a very tight rein so didn’t socialise with us and didn’t let our kids see each other out of school. Her behaviour really bothered me, i took it personally and can see why you’re upset, but it may be a reflection of something going on with her, rather than anything at all to do with you or your child.

Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 10:36

LauraP32 · 03/06/2025 08:59

To be honest for me the conversation has turned too much about friendship.

There's being friendly vs developing a friendship. At my time so far at the school gates, I'm not sure there's a single Mum I will remain friends with after DC moves on to new schools etc. But in this phase of my life - the parents of the children in DC's class are important.

I suppose I view other Mum's a bit like work colleagues. It would simply not be ok to take instant, or unjustified dislikes to people. It would not be acceptable to act in an excluding manner, blank people or actively try to avoid someone (even if they were pursuing you for a meeting and/or you didn't really like them).

In work mostly people are friendly, inclusive, and collaborative and it's much easier and nicer being that way and we have a lovely office culture. There are on occasion the 'difficult people' but you do your best to navigate them.

This is essentially how I approach parents, teachers, extra curricular parents/instructors and anyone else I need to be in association with while I raise my DC.

You can be open, friendly and inclusive without entertaining a friendship.

You can decline a playdate without leaving one Mum sat on the sidelines at a sports event. You can say no to a coffee, and still move with grace and wave/smile and exchange chit chat at the school gate (even if you've declined several times - you can still do this. You can say - I'm very sorry we just don't have the time at weekends and still turn up perfectly friendly and pleasant at the next event).

You can have a group of Mum friends which you do enjoy spending time, and which you may have a WhatsApp group and you can also see a lone Mum stood at the school gates and you can move to include her in the general waiting for the bell chatter.

That's being socially aware vs socially inept. If people can't switch and flex like this in social places then you are socially inept.

Thank you, I think this sums it up perfectly.
Im not looking to be friends but more don't understand the rudeness from this woman and feel sad as it'll be harder on DS as he is keen to have playdates with this child

OP posts:
Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 10:29

Thank you for all the responses, making my way through.
Just to clarify I dont feel im bombarding someone. I messaged her about the park and she said it sounded lovely but they were busy and to let them know next time we're going. A few months later I mentioned I was taking DS after school if they were free, she apologised that they had to collect other child and next time. Then about 6 months later I asked her if she was going to the end of year event as I was taking DS and she said they already had plans.

I did not cross the pitch at the sports event to speak to her. People are walking around the outside getting coffee and chatting, I was following my younger toddler trying to keep them distracted and walked past were she was sitting and said a quick hello to her and a few others.

I'm not expecting friendship like some people are stating, just basic civility as our boys are both keen friends and enjoy playing together.

As people have stated I will view it as she is socially inept rather than something wrong with me or my son and leave it at that

OP posts:
SandyY2K · 03/06/2025 10:24

I generally used to invite the child for a playdate, but not the mum specifically. I'd say Lisa (my child) would like Lucy over for a playdate and give a time and date.

The same would happen when my daughter was invited over. I didn't go, I just dropped and picked.

There were some mums that I knew I'd have very little in common with, so it would be uncomfortable spending one on one time with them. There were others that were more my kind of person and I'm still friends with. My kids are in their 20s now.

If it's just for the kids, another thing I did, was make a playdate invitation for and give the child to take home. Maybe you can try that, as she seems to be avoiding you.

She may just think you're not her kind of person and wants to avoid a one to one setting. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong with you or her.

EasternEcho · 03/06/2025 10:23

OP, I understand that you feel rejected and hurt. However, you do seem to have come to the conclusion that this person doesn't even want to have even a surface level friendship with you. That realization should be the end of you trying anything with her, even eye contact. You've one your part. Now let it go. It has become the norm these days to claim that people don't have the "bandwidth" for additional relationships even at acquaintance levels. If you are a nice and decent person, then it's their loss and not yours. Move on to people who do respond.

Wishing14 · 03/06/2025 10:21

Or if you want to be petty… does dad ever do drop off? Halo

Wishing14 · 03/06/2025 10:17

I think it says more about her. She sounds judgmental or jealous and completely lacking in manners. I’m always nice and friendly to everyone, so wouldn’t need to act differently - it is much more difficult to go out of your way to be rude. I would always smile and say hi walking past. Don’t seek her out. Be friendly with other mums, grow your son’s circle elsewhere.
I have encountered people like this. You can’t control other people, only yourself. I always make eye contact and smile. They know deep down it’s them who is unreasonable and you know what? Everyone else will see it too.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 10:17

Calliopespa · 03/06/2025 09:56

I think this “ why should I!” attitude gets taken way too far these days.

Yes it’s good society has loosened a little - particularly in expectations of women.

But taken too far society just becomes totally uncivilised and self-centred. That might sound like a good idea when you’re on the give side, but it’s pretty bleak on the get. A world of selfishness untrammelled by basic decency isn’t a great outcome for anyone in the long run.

I've been there! Walking to nursery every morning with a woman I couldn't stand. Dreading her knock on the door. As I said in a previous post, it was totally draining and I was so hugely relieved when nursery ended.
I stuck it out for the sake of my son. I sometimes think i should have been selfish, because I started dreading the mornings.
If it was primary school I would've put my self-centred head on, to preserve my own sanity.
I'd rather a wee bit of uncivilised friction, which can help cut through superficial bullshit, than blanket kindness, which can cover-up & allow tension & unresolved issues to brew.

Wheresthebeach · 03/06/2025 10:14

I think this is key 'ive invited her to the park twice and also to a local child disco'.

Going forward best to offer to have the child, and tell the mum they're welcome to come if they want. It's a kids playdate, not a coffee with a friend. You're mixing the two up which is super easy to do. I wouldn't invite the child again, or if I did it would be 'happy to have Bobbie for a play date afterschool. I can take him direct, if that works for you could you then pick him up at 6:00?'. If she agrees to that be polite at pick up but don't offer coffee/wine etc. You're facilitating your child's friendships, not yours.

Gloriia · 03/06/2025 10:08

'Relying on other parents at school for childcare or pick ups is something that gets thrown around a lot on here. Most of us have arranged childcare and have contingencies in place if the plans fall through.'

Oh I agree. However knowing a parent well enough to ask if they can collect a child in an emergency is also a good contingency plan to have.

anyolddinosaur · 03/06/2025 10:06

You went over to say hello when she was trying to avoid you. You're being too pushy. Either ignore her for a bit or just nod, wave if you must.

NU to feel sad, VVU to keep pushing.

Wheresthebeach · 03/06/2025 10:05

Yes you can be a bit sad but I think you're giving it too much head space. School playground politics is grim at times. Smile, be polite to everyone else and keep your distance from her.

Butdidyou · 03/06/2025 09:57

Gloriia · 03/06/2025 09:36

You don't have to click, its the kids who are friends.

We see it on here all the time a parent who is stuck for childcare or a school pick up as they cba to even try and get to know other parents.

Children can be friends without their parents being friends though.

Relying on other parents at school for childcare or pick ups is something that gets thrown around a lot on here. Most of us have arranged childcare and have contingencies in place if the plans fall through.

Calliopespa · 03/06/2025 09:56

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:44

Perhaps the other parent is thinking 'why won't this woman take the hint?' so maybe she sees her only option to actively ignore.
That doesn't mean she's not a good person.
Why is it her responsibility to accommodate social interaction that she clearly, for whatever reason, doesn't want?

I think this “ why should I!” attitude gets taken way too far these days.

Yes it’s good society has loosened a little - particularly in expectations of women.

But taken too far society just becomes totally uncivilised and self-centred. That might sound like a good idea when you’re on the give side, but it’s pretty bleak on the get. A world of selfishness untrammelled by basic decency isn’t a great outcome for anyone in the long run.

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 09:56

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:51

None of us know how the OP has come across when inviting the other mum, though.
It may have seemed to the other mum that OP wanted friendship with her, rather than simply facilitating their sons' friendship.
I know I couldn't be arsed with that.

Maybe, I think a play date and a disco doesn’t imply parental friendship but I guess without bearing her side we don’t know how she interpreted it. I still think she sounds rude though, personally.

Moonlightexpress · 03/06/2025 09:55

Eastie77Returns · 03/06/2025 01:16

It’s a rule on MN that school mums who do not smile and chat with other mums at the school gates are cliquey, rude, bitchy etc. Alternatively they must be depressed or suffering from anxiety.

It couldn’t simply be because they just do not wish to befriend a bunch of random women.

That rule does not apply to school dads though.

I think its a rule because in part its true. Many have the same experience, I came across the bitchyness, my sisters always use to moan, some of my friends .. and there's no excuse for rudness I'm afraid.. there's no other way to describe it. You mention it's not wanting to befriend a random bunch of women but no need to be rude about it. There was a couple of mums at primary school who never got involved with play dates or organising anything but always said hello and acted friendly... so looks like being rude.. is just being rude.

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 09:55

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 09:51

I think repeatedly asking is also rude.

Twice is barely ‘repeatedly’

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:51

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 09:00

She’s asked her two times with months apart. It’s not like she has been badgering her on a weekly basis.

None of us know how the OP has come across when inviting the other mum, though.
It may have seemed to the other mum that OP wanted friendship with her, rather than simply facilitating their sons' friendship.
I know I couldn't be arsed with that.

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 09:51

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 08:58

I disagree, I think ignoring people is rude. The person doesn’t have to have play dates or be a friend but she shouldn’t be avoiding eye contact and obviously avoiding.

I say that as someone with severe social anxiety and Audhd who really struggles with other people. The other parent isn’t being a good person, in my opinion.

I think repeatedly asking is also rude.

aster10 · 03/06/2025 09:50

I would say, no matter how hard we try to rationalise it to ourselves, it still hurts a lot when other people reject us. It hurts slightly less when it’s because these other people don’t want to have any more friends. And it hurts more if these other people reject us when we don’t earn enough or don’t live in the right village.

Mary46 · 03/06/2025 09:49

Yes just move on. I wouldnt keep asking. Some I clicked with some not. I would never be rude though.

ThisPlumFinch · 03/06/2025 09:48

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:44

Perhaps the other parent is thinking 'why won't this woman take the hint?' so maybe she sees her only option to actively ignore.
That doesn't mean she's not a good person.
Why is it her responsibility to accommodate social interaction that she clearly, for whatever reason, doesn't want?

OP has asked her twice, two months apart. She is hardly hassling her all the time? Two play dates isn’t really that bad. I think the other woman is rude based upon that personally. If OP had asked loads then I’d get it, but a few times with months between them really isn’t that bad.

gotmyknickersinatwist · 03/06/2025 09:47

LauraP32 · 03/06/2025 08:59

To be honest for me the conversation has turned too much about friendship.

There's being friendly vs developing a friendship. At my time so far at the school gates, I'm not sure there's a single Mum I will remain friends with after DC moves on to new schools etc. But in this phase of my life - the parents of the children in DC's class are important.

I suppose I view other Mum's a bit like work colleagues. It would simply not be ok to take instant, or unjustified dislikes to people. It would not be acceptable to act in an excluding manner, blank people or actively try to avoid someone (even if they were pursuing you for a meeting and/or you didn't really like them).

In work mostly people are friendly, inclusive, and collaborative and it's much easier and nicer being that way and we have a lovely office culture. There are on occasion the 'difficult people' but you do your best to navigate them.

This is essentially how I approach parents, teachers, extra curricular parents/instructors and anyone else I need to be in association with while I raise my DC.

You can be open, friendly and inclusive without entertaining a friendship.

You can decline a playdate without leaving one Mum sat on the sidelines at a sports event. You can say no to a coffee, and still move with grace and wave/smile and exchange chit chat at the school gate (even if you've declined several times - you can still do this. You can say - I'm very sorry we just don't have the time at weekends and still turn up perfectly friendly and pleasant at the next event).

You can have a group of Mum friends which you do enjoy spending time, and which you may have a WhatsApp group and you can also see a lone Mum stood at the school gates and you can move to include her in the general waiting for the bell chatter.

That's being socially aware vs socially inept. If people can't switch and flex like this in social places then you are socially inept.

In work, people are paid to be there. It's in their interests to make it a pleasant environment.

SueSuddio · 03/06/2025 09:46

OP I have a similar nature but have learnt to back off if an invite isn't taken up then I would just drop it.

Like you, I'd struggle not to be friendly in person though if I knew our kids were really getting on.l so I feel your pain!

Sometimes I think thd school pick up makes parents regress to their schooldays too. The cliques, blanking and ignoring other mums depending on which way the wind is blowing that day. Being hot and cold and petty.

Just ignore this mum and focus on other school mums, your children will probably change friendships in any case as that is what kids do.

Stresshead84x · 03/06/2025 09:46

SandyY2K · 03/06/2025 00:39

I was going to suggest that she may be shy or have social anxiety, but you said she was speaking to others.

Could it be she doesn't like your son?

My kids left school ages ago, but there were some kids I wasn't keen on and wouldn't want a playdate with my kids and them.

It was mainly naughty behaviour of the kids from my observation at other parties or what I witnessed myself in school.

To be fair I'm very shy and I can talk comfortably to some people that I know well or jsut some people are easier to talk to, and not so much to others so that doesn't necessarily mean anything, although if OP's regularly approaching her i'd say that would make her easier to talk to.