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To feel sad after rejection from school Mum

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Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 00:30

DS is finishing Year 1 in school, he is best friends with another little boy since reception. Despite efforts the boys mother has shown no interest in playdates etc, ive invited her to the park twice and also to a local child disco. Her responses are usually friendly but just stating she's busy.
That's all fine, I know people have busy lifes but ive noticed recently she's ignoring me at events and almost being rude. Ive passed her a few times on school drop off and she usually avoids eye contact, we were recently at a kids sports event our kids were attending and she walked round behind the pitch to sit on the opposite side from me, no hello or acknowledgement. I did go over and say a quick hello, she was cordial but I wouldn't say friendly. Another school event she basically walked past me and sat with another group and I noticed she came over to a few people to chat briefly during the event but ignored me, despite me sitting not very far from others she spoke with. My DS is quite keen on this other boy and they would be close in school according to the teacher.
AIBU to feel sad about this? Im not sure what else I can do without coming across as full on as she clearly doesn't want even a friendly relationship with me despite seeming friendly with lots of other school mums from the class.

OP posts:
rivalsbinge · 03/06/2025 06:46

Three is a lady in a group I’m friends with who constantly asks us to hers for dinner or drinks or a gathering.. it’s just non stop “oh come to mine” we all started avoiding her it’s tiring and awkward as none of us really have to time and don’t want to. But having to say no thanks over a few times gets tricky so we just avoid.

Calliopespa · 03/06/2025 06:44

Eastie77Returns · 03/06/2025 01:05

If she has told you she’s busy on three separate occasions it means she does not want to meet up with you. I wouldn’t have persisted after asking her the first time. She declined politely and is cordial when you say hello but it sounds as if she is avoiding you now because she feels awkward and doesn’t want to risk having to deal with yet another invite.

I’ve been in her situation and had to actively avoid a school mum who kept suggesting we meet up as our DC were friends. I had absolutely nothing against the woman but just had no interest in spending time with her and her DC.

You are not BU to feel sad btw.

Edited

Yes this can be true.

I’ve had a couple of children try to “ corner” my Dc into friendships. It’s not that my Dc don’t like them as such, but they have wanted to kind of commandeer them to the exclusion of others, which was affecting my DC’s other friendships. I probably acted slightly like this to the mums if I’m honest, for exactly the reason suggested by others, namely it get embarrassing turning their advances down.

I think as a general rule it helps to treat these things like a tennis match: if you’ve made an advance that was turned down, the ball is on their side of the court to return it by coming back with a different suggestion if they really were just busy etc. I certainly wouldn’t make more than two offers or advances in a row that were not accepted. It’s sad, but sometimes you have to take a hint.

TheaBrandt1 · 03/06/2025 06:43

Turn it round in your head. Just think sod her her loss. Reach out to other mums and make your own clique - then have far more fun than her!

spoonbillstretford · 03/06/2025 06:38

Perhaps she feels she has enough friends and doesn't have the time to get more involved with anyone else. She probably hasn't given it any thought at all and has no idea how she comes across to you.

Personally I had a couple of years when I was working fewer hours and had more time to get to know people, but even then I knew I'd be stepping it up in my career in future so didn't want to get too involved and then feel guilty later because I didn't have time for people.

User2446444 · 03/06/2025 06:34

Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 01:34

I dont think so because the last invite was at the end of the reception year and haven't suggested anything since then and as I said i totally understand if she's busy/doesn't want a meet up but totally avoiding me seems extreme especially as she's chatty with other mums

Hi op I went through similar when we moved to the small town we live in and it really stung for.a bit but the mums just weren't my tribe as they say. Friendship has to be a two way street. I would.ignore.too.now and match the other mum's energy.

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 03/06/2025 06:21

Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 00:47

Possibly, her son would be more misbehaved imo and can be quite rowdy at birthday parties etc but feel even if it's that its strange not to say hello when passing on school runs. I suppose because of the recent events with us both attending im more aware that she's being unfriendly where perhaps I didnt notice it as much

You are aware that just because your kids are friends doesn't mean you have to be friends too?

Eesha · 03/06/2025 06:02

@Cafeshops how big is your class? Why do you care that she isnt that interested? Don't you have more people who are? Honestly, my experience is just move on and find your own tribe.

We have a couple of kids with SEN in our class. The mum tries to do lots of playdates but many refuse them now because the child is considered 'uncool'. My kids go because they have a fun time with them. However I can see that the mum in question would find some of the other parents hurtful. However its just because their kids aren't interested.

We also have a mum who only likes very wealthy parents and is extremely selective here. She literally looks through you if you don't fit the look/religion. I find her extremely mean girl ish but I'm glad that my thoughts aren't isolated and others have mentioned it to me. I don't get upset, I just think she's a bit of a cow. The child is OK but I'm no hurry to actively organise solo play dates.

My point is there are lots of complexities at bay and you can't control everything. Just look for those you gel with.

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 03/06/2025 05:53

Eastie77Returns · 03/06/2025 01:16

It’s a rule on MN that school mums who do not smile and chat with other mums at the school gates are cliquey, rude, bitchy etc. Alternatively they must be depressed or suffering from anxiety.

It couldn’t simply be because they just do not wish to befriend a bunch of random women.

That rule does not apply to school dads though.

The school Dads at our school gate are all friendly and wouldn’t be cliquey at all. It’s about 50/50 Mums and Dads. I would be just as judgey if one of them were grumpy and rude, but they’re not.

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 05:48

springintoaction321 · 03/06/2025 05:36

This

Agree 100 per cent - blank her right back.....

I've also met people like this, and it says more about them then it does about you.

Why are we assuming the other lady isn't a nice person though? She's done nothing wrong.

springintoaction321 · 03/06/2025 05:36

Vallmo47 · 03/06/2025 01:58

Why she’s acting like this doesn’t matter OP, I would write her off as not a very nice person and ignore from now on. Knowing probably won’t make you feel any better so just try to forget about it- you’ve been nice, you’ve tried, end of story. Hope you bump into someone else you gel with better. :)

This

Agree 100 per cent - blank her right back.....

I've also met people like this, and it says more about them then it does about you.

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 05:26

This might sound harsh OP, but for some reason she either doesn't want to children to be friends or to be friends with you, and that is her choice. Leave it be.

chatgptsbestmate · 03/06/2025 05:18

Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 01:34

I dont think so because the last invite was at the end of the reception year and haven't suggested anything since then and as I said i totally understand if she's busy/doesn't want a meet up but totally avoiding me seems extreme especially as she's chatty with other mums

She's taken a dislike to you. For whatever reason, and you'll never know, she just doesn't like you.

User37482 · 03/06/2025 05:17

I don’t really get this “she doesn’t want to be your friend” view. I don’t go playdates because I want to be friends with the parents I do them because my child gets on with another kid and because of her age I have to chaperone her.

OP you tried, don’t worry about it, some people are just like this, they have their reasons, some may be stupid reasons some may be reasonable. You asked her and she said no so best to move on. The majority of parents at my child's school are completely normal but there are one or two who are very cliquey and I think they prefer parents that will fit in with whatever social scene they are trying to build.

CharlotteBakewell · 03/06/2025 05:08

Hysterectomynext · 03/06/2025 01:32

What does saw her arse mean?
I’m trying to think but I can’t see how her arse fits. I’m intrigued enough to ask though!

Are you from the South or not in the UK?

Might be a more northern phrase if you haven’t heard it.

Seen your arse, being arsey, is a well known saying from my neck of the woods. DH often asks me why I’ve ’seen my arse’ about something 😆

Tbrh · 03/06/2025 04:54

Renabrook · 03/06/2025 04:29

There does not have to be a reason, why does it seem people turn into some intense drama people when they have children and suddenly become part of the school 'gang'

Of course there has to be a reason for you to intensely dislike someone

CharlotteBakewell · 03/06/2025 04:51

I wouldn’t invest any more of your time trying to work why she’s acting this way, OP. Distance yourself now and mirror her cordial responses if your paths cross in the future.

As the DC become older friendships most likely will change.

Notsosure1 · 03/06/2025 04:46

Renabrook · 03/06/2025 04:29

There does not have to be a reason, why does it seem people turn into some intense drama people when they have children and suddenly become part of the school 'gang'

Because saying the woman has nothing wrong with her but also that she cannot stand to be in her company is baffling. And there has to be a reason for it or the PP wouldn’t admit to refusing dinner invites if she knows she’ll be there. You wouldn’t do that if you were just ambivalent towards someone, so again there has to be a reason. She said herself she couldn’t put it into words - not that she selected this woman at random to avoid for shits and giggles. Trying to explain it would provide an insight to those of us who are avoided without knowing why so that we can perhaps reflect on how we interact going forward, if it bothers us enough. That’s all.

Renabrook · 03/06/2025 04:29

Notsosure1 · 03/06/2025 04:16

There’s a woman in our social group I just don’t gel with. I can’t explain it; there’s absolutely nothing wrong with her, but I don’t want to be friends.

Do you not have any idea why you dislike her? There must be a reason

There does not have to be a reason, why does it seem people turn into some intense drama people when they have children and suddenly become part of the school 'gang'

Renabrook · 03/06/2025 04:27

Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 01:34

I dont think so because the last invite was at the end of the reception year and haven't suggested anything since then and as I said i totally understand if she's busy/doesn't want a meet up but totally avoiding me seems extreme especially as she's chatty with other mums

But maybe she is trying her best to want you to take a hint for the million of reasons she may have it comes down to she does not want too, for yours and her sake just stop and stop assuming anything about her or any other school parents

did you do this to people before you had a child/ren?

PruthePrune · 03/06/2025 04:24

You sound a bit full on TBH

Notsosure1 · 03/06/2025 04:16

Oriunda · 03/06/2025 02:53

“ive invited her to the park twice and also to a local child disco. Her responses are usually friendly but just stating she's busy.”
“ I did go over and say a quick hello, she was cordial but I wouldn't say friendly. “

Just reading that makes me feel that you’re chasing her. She’s not interested. She’s allowed to be not interested. You’ve invited her three times and she’s politely said no. You actively crossed a games pitch to pursue her again.

For whatever reason, she’s not interested in being your friend. You really need to leave it now; you’re probably making her uncomfortable so, yes, she’s now actively avoiding you. Your children can be friends; you don’t need to be.

Plus, just because your DS is keen on her son, doesn’t necessarily mean her son is. My DS came under huge pressure from a child in primary, to the extent that he felt smothered. She may have her own reasons for not wanting to further the friendship outside of school, and again, that is ok. I did the same, actively encouraging a wide a friendship circle as possible.

There’s a woman in our social group I just don’t gel with. I can’t explain it; there’s absolutely nothing wrong with her, but I don’t want to be friends. I’ll be polite, but I won’t instigate conversation or choose to sit near her, if I can help it. I try not to go to social events like an intimate dinner if she’s there. It’s me, not her.

There’s a woman in our social group I just don’t gel with. I can’t explain it; there’s absolutely nothing wrong with her, but I don’t want to be friends.

Do you not have any idea why you dislike her? There must be a reason

Notsosure1 · 03/06/2025 04:11

MrBlobbyScaresMe · 03/06/2025 01:01

@Anemone52 She might be avoiding you now because she thinks that you’ll offer another invitation that she will have to turn down.

I think this is the reason too.

Why the rudeness though I don't know, I think unfortunately this is just typical playground behaviour. There's always cliques /bitchiness/gossiping. I wouldn't take it personally, but don't ask her any more and I wouldn't expect her to be friendly again, this is just how it goes. Does your ds get along with any other children who you could ask for a play date?

Another aspect which will get eye rolls is could she be jealous of you physically? Some women actively despise better looking or more alternative women - nothing to do with personality.

CuriousKiteFlyer · 03/06/2025 04:10

Have had this several times too some people are just weird / rude / unfriendly. She may feel threatened by you for some reason. It's a shame when your kids are friends but you can't do anything about it. Just focus on the nice parents instead.

RitaAndFrank · 03/06/2025 04:02

ColinCaterpillarsNo1Fan · 03/06/2025 03:50

Leave it, don't beg others for a friendship. There was a mum like this at my dc 's school; she always hung around the wealthier / trendier parents. Our dd's were friends in school but the mum was into social engineering so they didn't hang out much after school.

Eventually, the mum found out that I was friends with a minor celebrity and suddenly she was all over me! Pick up times were difficult as I had to run through, grab dc before I got accosted by her. Some people are incredibly shallow like this woman was.

Ha, I wonder if we were friends with the same woman as I was going to include an anecdote about ‘one of those’ in my post above!

I decided not to as it might be outing, but needless to say, the woman in question’s social insecurity hasn’t done her any favours in the long run; all her cool wealthy friends sussed her out eventually (it took them a few years tbf) and she finally moved away as it turned out she wasn’t happy here had no friends.

Pandersmum · 03/06/2025 03:58

I also experienced the same. It’s not nice as a parent, especially when your children are desperate to be included in the holiday ‘group park dates’.

There was a particular strong clique with the parents of the group of one of my children and my face just didn’t fit. I was overweight. I guess I didn’t fit their image of who they wanted to be seen with in the park / coffee shop.

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