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To feel sad after rejection from school Mum

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Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 00:30

DS is finishing Year 1 in school, he is best friends with another little boy since reception. Despite efforts the boys mother has shown no interest in playdates etc, ive invited her to the park twice and also to a local child disco. Her responses are usually friendly but just stating she's busy.
That's all fine, I know people have busy lifes but ive noticed recently she's ignoring me at events and almost being rude. Ive passed her a few times on school drop off and she usually avoids eye contact, we were recently at a kids sports event our kids were attending and she walked round behind the pitch to sit on the opposite side from me, no hello or acknowledgement. I did go over and say a quick hello, she was cordial but I wouldn't say friendly. Another school event she basically walked past me and sat with another group and I noticed she came over to a few people to chat briefly during the event but ignored me, despite me sitting not very far from others she spoke with. My DS is quite keen on this other boy and they would be close in school according to the teacher.
AIBU to feel sad about this? Im not sure what else I can do without coming across as full on as she clearly doesn't want even a friendly relationship with me despite seeming friendly with lots of other school mums from the class.

OP posts:
Upperroom · 03/06/2025 07:50

Cafeshops · 03/06/2025 01:34

I dont think so because the last invite was at the end of the reception year and haven't suggested anything since then and as I said i totally understand if she's busy/doesn't want a meet up but totally avoiding me seems extreme especially as she's chatty with other mums

In the nicest way are you more middle class and /or more educated than her? It could be insecurity on her part… I’ve had this once with a school mum.

GreyCarpet · 03/06/2025 07:49

Gloriia · 03/06/2025 07:41

It's not about the adult being friends. It is about facilitating our kids socialising outside school. Sometimes we must make the effort for our kids sake and try and develop some social skills ourselves.

The problem is though that when it feels someone is 'aggressively' pursuing that, people try to protect themselves from it.

There could be any number of reasons why this woman doesn't want to be friendly with the OP. Including the fact that her child might not want to be friends with her child outside of school.

It's fine to try but, when someone clearly isn't interested for any reason, you need to back off.

NerrSnerr · 03/06/2025 07:48

Calliopespa · 03/06/2025 07:41

Yes cliquey behaviour does exist.

The playground takes lots of mums straight back to school and the ex-bullies reclaim their turf, or alternatively those with unresolved social issues see it as their “second chance” and try to 💪 flex.

You can spot the “ regressers” or “ second chancers” a mile off. They normally flatten others in their haste offer to organise the what’s app group, parent drinks, teachers gifts etc. They are the prime sculptors of some approximation of a “cool group/in-crowd “ 😎 of parents - which at that stage of life is a bit tragic. Don’t let these types bother you op: the issues are theirs and a bit cringe.

I think the school gate takes a lot of other mum’s back to their school times where they see everything as a rejection.

Sally and Naomi decide to go for a pint on a Friday- omg why didn’t they invite me as my daughter is in their class?? A group of mums who have known each other since a toddler group 8 years ago go camping with their children? That’s 20% of the year group- they needed to invite the whole class. Jenny had an awful day at work and was so happy to see her close friend Rachel at the school gate and have a vent. Lisa is upset as Jenny walked past her to get to her friend and didn’t invite her to join in on the personal conversation.

LoveNRoses · 03/06/2025 07:48

Hi OP YANBU for being sad that this friendship hasn’t worked out. But you just need to ignore her now. I think she feels chased by you.

this bit stood out for me “she walked round behind the pitch to sit on the opposite side from me, no hello or acknowledgement. I did go over and say a quick hello,”

she walked ALL the way around the other side without saying hello to you…so you went over there?! Seems very odd behaviour on your part. You barely know this women so why did you make such an effort to go over there?

I wonder if you’re not picking up on social cues and she’s feeling a bit uncomfortable.

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 07:46

CrazyGoatLady · 03/06/2025 07:43

She's probably one of the mums I read about on here who bans play dates and sleepovers until their kids are 18!

I wouldn't stress about it OP - you don't have to be besties with your DC friends' parents. Friendly/acquaintance terms is fine. Your DC may well have friends in future whose parents that you won't get on with so much as well, or who just aren't your kind of people. And kids' friendships change too. It can be awkward if you become good friends with the parents and then the DC fall out!

Why are you assuming this exactly?

Some of the responses on here are unhinged.

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 07:45

Calliopespa · 03/06/2025 07:41

Yes cliquey behaviour does exist.

The playground takes lots of mums straight back to school and the ex-bullies reclaim their turf, or alternatively those with unresolved social issues see it as their “second chance” and try to 💪 flex.

You can spot the “ regressers” or “ second chancers” a mile off. They normally flatten others in their haste offer to organise the what’s app group, parent drinks, teachers gifts etc. They are the prime sculptors of some approximation of a “cool group/in-crowd “ 😎 of parents - which at that stage of life is a bit tragic. Don’t let these types bother you op: the issues are theirs and a bit cringe.

Agreed.
That's not necessarily what's happening here though.

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 07:44

Gloriia · 03/06/2025 07:41

It's not about the adult being friends. It is about facilitating our kids socialising outside school. Sometimes we must make the effort for our kids sake and try and develop some social skills ourselves.

....and sometimes we don't have to. 🫣

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 07:43

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Kb26155 · 03/06/2025 07:43

I've been the invited mum. My DS was maybe year 4 I was working in quite a stressful job that at the time was dealing with the crypto water crisis in the North West. When I had the luxury of picking up my son because I wasn't at work one mum would jump on me for playdates I'd start to go the long way round to school and only go into the playground when the bell went even hid at points. I'd already tried to explain I was very busy, tired and barely had time to see my children then declined politely but it fell on deaf ears till in the end I accepted I only went because I was bombarded I really didn't want to be there , while I was always civil a friendship didn't develop - fast forward 10 years now if I didn't want to go somewhere or see someone I'd just keep saying no without hiding round corners, yes everyone should treat people with kindness and respect but it's my life if I don't want to be your friend then I don't want to be your friend what I have found not only from the playground but life generally is some people struggle to read social cues no matter how polite you are sometimes you just need to say no.

CrazyGoatLady · 03/06/2025 07:43

She's probably one of the mums I read about on here who bans play dates and sleepovers until their kids are 18!

I wouldn't stress about it OP - you don't have to be besties with your DC friends' parents. Friendly/acquaintance terms is fine. Your DC may well have friends in future whose parents that you won't get on with so much as well, or who just aren't your kind of people. And kids' friendships change too. It can be awkward if you become good friends with the parents and then the DC fall out!

GreyCarpet · 03/06/2025 07:42

NerrSnerr · 03/06/2025 07:32

Why do you think school mums are different to any other group of women? It appears school mums can’t make their own friendship groups and have to invite everyone to everything. Also, if school mums are cliquey surely that means you are too?

This. There's a weird assumption amongst some that women who just happen to live in the same area, choose the same primary school.and have children born in the same academic year will automatically be friends.

When friendships naturally occur between those women it's described as a 'clique'. It's not. It's just friendship.

I'm still fb friends with a few mums who added me in primary school. Our daughters are now at university. I'm still only fb friends with all of them and only ever was. Some of them have formed lifelong friendships and frequently holiday etc together. I never viewed it as a clique.

The problem is that some women think that they will make friends with their children's classmates' parents and there are plenty of lonely mum threads on here when people say, "Don't worry, you'll make friends when they start school." Not necessarily. I've always wanted to have 'me' things in common with my friends.

And whilst I was happy to meet up for coffee or arrange days out with a few parents, it was never with parents I got a vibe of 'wanting to be friends' from. Mainly because I'm not interested in playground politics and I've seen too many problems between adults when children fall out!

Calliopespa · 03/06/2025 07:41

Whistledown2 · 03/06/2025 07:16

Out of interest OP does your DS ask to have this child over for play dates? Is it him who is navigating your interest in this child? If so I can understand you being sad for your DS, that’s a tough one for kids to understand. If it’s you who is trying so hard to nurture the friendship then I would just leave be. If the boys are naturally drawn to each other it’ll work itself out. Just explain to your DS gently about the lack of contact outside of school and try and find him other friends/activities.

Whoever thinks ‘cliquey’ behaviour doesn’t exist at the school gate must live under a stone. It does without a doubt. It’s a breeding ground for those who want to be a ‘queen bee’. Just like being back in school, the ‘popular’ groups rule. I’m not suggesting this is the case with this Mum, I’m just saying it exists.

I hope your DS isn’t troubled by this, please ensure he isn’t focussed on this child. Encourage outside interests for him.

I hope things sort themselves out OP

Yes cliquey behaviour does exist.

The playground takes lots of mums straight back to school and the ex-bullies reclaim their turf, or alternatively those with unresolved social issues see it as their “second chance” and try to 💪 flex.

You can spot the “ regressers” or “ second chancers” a mile off. They normally flatten others in their haste offer to organise the what’s app group, parent drinks, teachers gifts etc. They are the prime sculptors of some approximation of a “cool group/in-crowd “ 😎 of parents - which at that stage of life is a bit tragic. Don’t let these types bother you op: the issues are theirs and a bit cringe.

Gloriia · 03/06/2025 07:41

MumblingsOnMumsN · 03/06/2025 07:38

I'm sorry but all of us know people who 'just aren't our type'.

For whatever reason she's not interested in being friends.

I had to back off from various mums at the school gate who weren't just 'for me'.

I'd take the hint and try to make new friends.

It's not about the adult being friends. It is about facilitating our kids socialising outside school. Sometimes we must make the effort for our kids sake and try and develop some social skills ourselves.

chaosmaker · 03/06/2025 07:40

You have a Hyacinth Bouquet there in rhino skin :)

rivalsbinge · 03/06/2025 07:39

chaosmaker · 03/06/2025 07:33

Does no one ever say please stop asking, I'm not interested? Sometimes being blunt is nicer in the long run.

Yes I did, but she still asks, she’s ignored my bluntness. She invites herself “oh I must pop round on Friday” to while I say “no I’m working” it’s that blunt but it still happens.

Not suggesting the OP is like this.

Gloriia · 03/06/2025 07:39

Tbrh · 03/06/2025 07:24

She's rude AF. She's suddenly acting like she doesn't know OP, you surely don't think that's normal or OK? Echoing other posters, just forget about her OP, better off not being friends with someone like this anyway. Just smile if you see her and walk on

This. She's is rude so just ignore her.

We don't have to be bffs with school mums but we all grin and bear it for the sake of our kids. If my dc had wanted friends over I wouldn't have given a rat's ass if I particularly liked the parents I'd have invited the dc or accepted invites. I've spent many a doorstep pick up or drop off smiling and nodding to a parent I'd normally have nothing in common with.

Just focus on others dc and stop trying to engage, she is not someone to waste your time over.

GAJLY · 03/06/2025 07:38

I had similar. I was upset like you. Once I took the family swimming and we all saw her in the pool. I said hello, she got out and left her children and husband! A few weeks later, we were both involved in a school activity. I asked her in front of everyone, why she ignored me like that?! She went quiet, and said it was because I'm a size 10 and she's fat, she didn't want to see me there. It was werid but at least i knew it was her problem not mine, but I never bothered acknowledging her again.

MumblingsOnMumsN · 03/06/2025 07:38

I'm sorry but all of us know people who 'just aren't our type'.

For whatever reason she's not interested in being friends.

I had to back off from various mums at the school gate who weren't just 'for me'.

I'd take the hint and try to make new friends.

cantthinkofausername26 · 03/06/2025 07:37

maybe your child has done something to upset hers? I had this with my dd. Mum of friend thought they were best friends, my dd was coming home crying everyday that ‘sally’ did this and said that. Sallys mum was none the wiser and thought they got in great. Obviously I started ducking out of play dates when I noticed sallys behaviour at our house one day. No need to be rude, but can understand sometimes people need to steer their children’s friendships

TaupeMember · 03/06/2025 07:36

PruthePrune · 03/06/2025 04:24

You sound a bit full on TBH

Why? She invited them to th9ngs three times across a school year and says hello when she sees her?

Their children get on, it's only natural to want to get on with the parent of your child's friend.

I agree, ask the child somewhere alone, especially now going into year 2.

MyDeftDuck · 03/06/2025 07:35

Let it go…..she clearly doesn’t want to ‘socialise’ with you, keep pushing and you’ll end up looking needy.
You DS is only young, as he grows he will associate with more and more children and before you know it he will have lots of friends for play dates, sleepovers and parties.

Koalafan · 03/06/2025 07:34

Tbrh · 03/06/2025 07:24

She's rude AF. She's suddenly acting like she doesn't know OP, you surely don't think that's normal or OK? Echoing other posters, just forget about her OP, better off not being friends with someone like this anyway. Just smile if you see her and walk on

As already stated by other posters, she's probably fed up of OP seemingly not taking no for an answer.

1SillySossij · 03/06/2025 07:34

A lot of social climbing goes on at the school gates, OP. I wouldn't take it personally, just upgrade your Land rover! :-p

NerrSnerr · 03/06/2025 07:33

I wonder if her son doesn’t feel the same as the OP’s son. I think some young children have a ‘best friend’ when the other one isn’t in to them as much.

chaosmaker · 03/06/2025 07:33

rivalsbinge · 03/06/2025 06:46

Three is a lady in a group I’m friends with who constantly asks us to hers for dinner or drinks or a gathering.. it’s just non stop “oh come to mine” we all started avoiding her it’s tiring and awkward as none of us really have to time and don’t want to. But having to say no thanks over a few times gets tricky so we just avoid.

Does no one ever say please stop asking, I'm not interested? Sometimes being blunt is nicer in the long run.

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