To let DD leave 6th form to work in a pub!

It is bloody hard to try and get teenagers to play the long game.
Could you get a private tutor to help her through her maths? This would be a great investment for whatever if she wants to do. Pubs are having a hard time right now, what would she do if her hours are cut?
Be stuborn with her, help her not waste what she has done so far at school where she has good support.

What a gross attitude you have. Don't pass it on to your kids

I agree that there’s lots to be potentially gained by a path in hospitality, but also think that whatever happens next should be discussed with the daughter and the terms laid out- if she drops out of school in order to work full time, she would be responsible for repaying the scholarship and for contributing to the household bills, plus all her own spending money. If she completes the two years of study (so really she has only another 8 months actually going to school) then she can keep her own money for spending and can live as a child in your home.

Do you have a Weatherspoons near you? They train from within and she can outearn her university going peers, as well as having guaranteed employment. Qualifications and experience in hospitality will get you an Australian work visa, these days. You can still travel around and work as you go. Then there's the potential to own your own business. My DD signed up for race meets, football, festivals and concerts. The earnings were good and she enjoyed it. Life is a bit easier though, here in the NW. Bar work has a lot of transferable skills and involves cash handling. Many places pay more than NMW, for experienced Staff.

I think I'd try to agree a plan together. Maybe sit down at the weekend and explain some of the excellent points on here (including the minimum wage and hours and a realistic look at budgeting). Id want to make sure she knew that I wasn't and wouldn't judge the choice the work in a pub/ hospitality but that she's damaging her chances to progress if that's what she wants later. For example I'm fairly sure she would need the equivalent of a maths GCSE for lots of jobs including managing in hospitality. Get her to think through what would make it bearable to stick it out. It feels a long time at that age doesn't it but she'd be finished pretty much this time next year.

And I'd be honest about the fact you'd have to pay the scholarship back and that you can't afford it. So she would have to contribute to that

Please let her leave.

I was forced to go to a VI form I didn't want to and I wasn't allowed to leave. It was the worst 2 years of my life and put me in hospital and shot my mental health.

So what if she works in a pub for a couple of years, there is nothing wrong with that. It might be a lifetime thing, it might not.

You can get funding to resit maths at any age.

Let her just sort out who she is and what she wants.

Her wage could increase, some people can go on to do well in hospitality and retail. There are options for progression if someone wants it.

She has found something she enjoys and is good at.
She could have a future in hospitality, be trained as bar manager... perhaps she could look at a training course in this.

Point out to her that the private school scholarship is for now and once left that’s it. The pub will always be there. If she leaves school then she can pay back the scholarship herself. Ask the school what their terms are and see if there can be a monthly payment accepted. As she’ll be working then she’ll pay rent and contribution to bills and food.
If she stays She needs a maths qualification which means that she needs a tutor and to study. it’s only one more year and she should realise the luxury she has of getting her end of school exams passed.

Wow, is that what you think of people who serve you in cafes and pubs?

What about the shop assistants who you're happy to utilise while they shlep round the aisle for you?

Offensive.

I'd let her drop out and carve out a career in the hospitality industry. Mainly because the courses she's doing (I assume drama related) aren't going to get her a highly-paid job anyway - the competition to get into acting, or any job in TV/Film/theatre is ridiculous, and if she's not that into it, then she won't get anywhere anyway. OTOH, as other PP have said about their own experiences, hospitality is not a minimum wage job once you start getting promoted into pub management. If she really enjoys it then she'll get promoted pretty quickly, and eventually manage a pub, hotel, management roles on cruise ships if she wants to travel - there are so many varied options and opportunities in the hospitality industry, it's a much better option than something drama related.

Its her first job, she wont stay there forever?

I dont understand the objection on here for kids/young adults to work. Study/college/apprenticeships dont suit everyone. For many many young people getting out int the world of work is right for them.

we have lost sight of that as a society. You can always study later on, you can study alongside work when you're emotionally ready for that. She isnt coping at school or in education, so why on earth would you be pushing that.

All the skills you set out show why she is right for what she wants to do right now, as she develops and matures she'll move on to something else, or join forces with someone else or go back to study when she is ready. In the meantime she will be far far more independent and mature than those who stick around at school. She is rightly growing up.

Of course she can't concentrate at school if she is working til 11pm the night before!

There are many 16/17 year olds in employment, and nothing is done about it. Please don’t frighten people.

I would look up training / apprenticeships in the hospitality industry.

She has found something she enjoys and is good at, it will never be exceptionally well paid but then what else could she be heading for?

And there are other jobs with a similar vibe, working with the public, in a team etc.

Is the pub part of a big chain? If so, can they offer her an apprenticeship?

I would worry that as soon as she hits 18 they will want to pay someone aged 16/17 instead of her because she costs too much. We saw it with Ds's mates whilst in sixth form. It was well known so everyone would calculate when they would be cut from the rota.

The thing about working shifts is if your mates are in your pub all having a great time socialising and you can't stop to chat because you are working.

As above, £1200 when you are living at home is a lot of money, that doesn't go anywhere once you want to move out. She has been given this opportunity of the scholarship and she does need her maths GCSE. There are many adults now having to resit it because lots of jobs now require it.

I would be encouraging her to stay on at sixth form.

Thing is she clearly has a good work ethic and can earn well in hospitality so why that approach, seems very random and rude to people in housing whatever their circumstances it’s not always because they haven tried!!

You should take her on a tour of social housing and show her her future if she continues on her current path.

If my child(ren) step out of line I’ve always intended to take them on a tour of where I grew up. It was hell.

I left college to work in a pub and morrisons when I was 18. But that was 20 years ago and I was able to move out on my wage. Its just not an option anymore. Easily anyway. I'd push her to do a vocational qualification if she really doesn't want to continue

If ADHD is suspected look at Right to Choose options for testing offering the smallest wait time. It really is better to know and preferably before the free years of education run out.

Mixing A levels and diplomas is not for everyone- they are completely different learning styles. I would be looking for a drama based diploma or advanced diploma the equivalent of 2 or 3 a levels at a local college in your shoes. It will be a more consistent learning style, hopefully hold DD’s interest and there should be enough slack in the timetable to work a reasonable number of hours too.

can you find a private maths tutor?

My DH and best friend left college to ‘work in a pub’, they hated every second of education. They’ve both got excellent jobs in the hospitality sector, earning circa £60k+ a year. Neither of them have A levels, my husband just 3/4 GCSEs (not maths) They love their jobs and have a whole host of transferable skills.

I went to school, college, uni. Still in education now. Nearing the top of my game- will not earn what they earn!

Edited to say you can do in house apprenticeships in hospitality.

She is now on track to fail I would think and lack of maths might be a big issue. At this point i think all you can do is sit her down and work through the options. She stays at school, puts her head down for a year and reduces work or she quits school and works, pays rent and for all her bills so phone etc. actually laying out the reality of working and costs might make her think twice.

I would imagine you would. How much would that be?