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FrankyGoesToBollywood · 02/06/2025 08:49

On the school run this morning which involves driving down a narrow winding lane which is always very busy at school run time. The lane is wide enough for two cars but it’s tight. There are three schools on this route and at school drop off and pick ups times it’s busy and congested. It’s 30mph. This morning I was driving along at about 25mph and a man dressed in serious looking cycling gear was cycling. I overtook him with quite a bit of space, definitely more than the 1.5m minimum, and as I was overtaking I could see a car coming towards me so nipped in in front of him- again definitely more than 1.5m from him. My windows were closed but I could then hear him shouting wildly “what the F was that!!” Over and over again and gesticulating. I didn’t indicate. I’m worried he will report me he was going wild, I genuinely thought I was driving quite considerately until I saw his reaction!

I’m now second guessing how close I was to him when I pulled in in front of him, and thinking he will report me and upload footage. If so how likely is it I will hear about it or be prosecuted?

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ItsBouqeeeet · 02/06/2025 13:31

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 13:27

Ok, maybe she did make a mistake. I just get annoyed with people getting OTT angry as EVERYONE makes mistakes on the road its called being a human, frantically swearing and raging is no good for anyone.

Making mistakes is forgetting a pint of milk from the shop.

What the OP did was not a mistake, it was reckless and dangerous!

Tessasanderson · 02/06/2025 13:28

He is on a bike. You are in a big metal box that weighs about 1-2t. If you hit him there is a good chance of life changing injuries or death for him.

Regardless of if you 'think' you left 1.5m it sounds like a narrow road where there isnt really much space for overtaking unless you go into the opposite carrieage. You already stated you had to nip in because a car was coming in the opposite direction so there is a high likelyhood you nearly took him out.

Its near a school, its a busy narrow road. If someone is cross at you because you were stupid, learn from it and dont be in such a bloody hurry. What did you save in time.......5/10/15 seconds? Was it worth it.

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 13:27

Blackdow · 02/06/2025 13:24

Because she thought that 1.5 meters was a safe distance to leave when pulling back in front of someone, that’s why she thinks she as driving safely. But it isn’t, and she wasn’t. She was wrong. Which is why she posted; to ask how she was wrong. And she’s been told.

What she did was not Ok or safe. The cyclist was put at risk, and his reaction was to
show that. And it has worked, because OP has now learned something.

Ok, maybe she did make a mistake. I just get annoyed with people getting OTT angry as EVERYONE makes mistakes on the road its called being a human, frantically swearing and raging is no good for anyone.

Blackdow · 02/06/2025 13:24

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 13:21

She said she genuinely thought she was being careful until she saw his reaction. He sounds very angry and OTT in my opinion.

Because she thought that 1.5 meters was a safe distance to leave when pulling back in front of someone, that’s why she thinks she as driving safely. But it isn’t, and she wasn’t. She was wrong. Which is why she posted; to ask how she was wrong. And she’s been told.

What she did was not Ok or safe. The cyclist was put at risk, and his reaction was to
show that. And it has worked, because OP has now learned something.

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 13:21

2ndbestslayer · 02/06/2025 13:05

This response is absolutely crazy. Have you read the op properly? She herself is so concerned about her own driving she ends with asking if she could be prosecuted!

She overtook at 25 mph on a busy, winding road that is only just wide enough for 2 cars. She admits she had to 'nip in' only 1.5 metres in front of the bike. If you would have done the same then god help any cyclists in your locality. People on bikes ARE entitled to be there, even if it slows you down. They are entitled - like all other road users - to go about their business safely.

The op badly misjudged this one. It isn't moronic or entitled for him to be angry and shaken up.

She said she genuinely thought she was being careful until she saw his reaction. He sounds very angry and OTT in my opinion.

Blackdow · 02/06/2025 13:19

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 12:56

Entitled cyclists are soooo annoying, he sounds like a very angry man OP with moronic issues dont let it get to you.

What exactly made this cyclist entitled or moronic? Simply being a man?

The OP overtook when she did not have a clear view of the road ahead of the area and distance she would need to compete that overtake. She did that with her children in the car and with a very vulnerable cyclist on the road. She was then faced with an oncoming car, and had no room to complete her manoeuvre safely, so pulled back in front of the cyclist with only 1.5 meters between them. It’s a tight road, so she most likely did hit the brakes once back in to straighten up and pass the car, which makes it even more dangerous with how close she pulled in front of the cyclist. He can’t brake that hard without going over the handlebars so that was a close call. Even if she didn’t brake, having a car at speed pulling in so close to that cyclist would still cause them to need to brake and also cause them to get a big scare. OP put herself, her children, the cyclist and the people in the oncoming car in danger. That’s a fact.
The cyclist is not entitled or moronic.

Chariots77 · 02/06/2025 13:10

The 1.5m is for overtaking. You need to leave much more than that when pulling back in front of him. That said, I wouldn't give it much more thought. Very unlikely anything further will happen. Take the learning and move forth 😅

rosemarble · 02/06/2025 13:06

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 12:56

Entitled cyclists are soooo annoying, he sounds like a very angry man OP with moronic issues dont let it get to you.

Yeah.....morons wanting to be safe on the roads.
The only way OP could have overtaken the cyclist safely was if she drove into the oncoming car. Obviously she didn't want to do that, so she took a BIG risk and nipped in just ahead of the cyclist who quite rightly was angry.

If you can't overtake safely you have to wait.

2ndbestslayer · 02/06/2025 13:05

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 12:56

Entitled cyclists are soooo annoying, he sounds like a very angry man OP with moronic issues dont let it get to you.

This response is absolutely crazy. Have you read the op properly? She herself is so concerned about her own driving she ends with asking if she could be prosecuted!

She overtook at 25 mph on a busy, winding road that is only just wide enough for 2 cars. She admits she had to 'nip in' only 1.5 metres in front of the bike. If you would have done the same then god help any cyclists in your locality. People on bikes ARE entitled to be there, even if it slows you down. They are entitled - like all other road users - to go about their business safely.

The op badly misjudged this one. It isn't moronic or entitled for him to be angry and shaken up.

rosemarble · 02/06/2025 13:04

RogueApple · 02/06/2025 12:53

The OP doesn't need to indicate. You don't need to indicate when on a dual carriage or motorway when returning to lane 1, as it's the default lane.

indicating to go back in a lane that you've just come out of, when it's very damn obvious that the OP isn't going to hang around in the opposite lane is silly. I don't indicate going back over to the original lane. The law doesn't require it. I do indicate when going to overtake.

It was not damn obvious to the cyclist that OP was going to go back to her lane a mere 1.5m in front of him! An indication she was going to make that dangerous move may have given the cyclist just that little bit more notice to take evasive action.

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 12:59

DeskJotter · 02/06/2025 10:53

1.5 m is an insane distance to leave in front of a cyclist. OP, do you really not see the difference between leaving 1.5 m to the side when overtaking a cyclist Vs pulling in in front of them with only 1.5 m between you? Really? Imagine you're on a motorway, and a car (safely) drives past you to the side with 1.5m between you. Then darts straight in front of you leaving 1.5m between you. Can you see the difference now? absolutely irresponsible and dangerous driving - you shouldn't be on the road.

Comparing a motorway to a quiet country lane??!😂

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 12:56

Entitled cyclists are soooo annoying, he sounds like a very angry man OP with moronic issues dont let it get to you.

RogueApple · 02/06/2025 12:53

BallerinaRadio · 02/06/2025 08:54

I would imagine you were probably closer to him that you thought. Plus no indication, a sudden 'nip in' that he had no idea was coming... Yeah I can see why he was pissed off

The OP doesn't need to indicate. You don't need to indicate when on a dual carriage or motorway when returning to lane 1, as it's the default lane.

indicating to go back in a lane that you've just come out of, when it's very damn obvious that the OP isn't going to hang around in the opposite lane is silly. I don't indicate going back over to the original lane. The law doesn't require it. I do indicate when going to overtake.

User79853257976 · 02/06/2025 12:06

Asdada · 02/06/2025 08:53

Maybe he’s trying to get to work too! Why not go to the local school and walk your kids there?

I hope he has a head cam and gets you charged. Loads of cyclists do these days.

And to clarify I’m a cyclist and driver.

Why not work locally and walk?

Cloudsandbees · 02/06/2025 12:06

paradisecircus · 02/06/2025 08:54

Can't imagine he'd bother to take this any further - he probably just thought you'd overtaken rather tightly, which maybe you had if there was a car coming the other way.

@Agix Cyclists might also be going to work, and their entitlement to use the road (and be safe on it) is the same as a driver's. So it's not all that baffling.

He may well take it further. Operation Snap means anyone can upload a report and camera footage. The police can, and do, take action.

It does sound like you cut him up and it came close to him going into the back of you because of your driving.

Many cyclists (me included) now have front and back cameras because of too many close shaves like this.

I'm a driver too and very careful in the narrow country lanes around us.

DataColour · 02/06/2025 12:03

I definitely see more angry drivers than angry cyclists! And there's a lot of cyclists around where I live. The most common situation is drivers annoying each other from what I can see.

Agapornis · 02/06/2025 12:03

Presuming this person was cycling 20 kmh (12.5mph) and has an average reaction speed of 1.375 seconds, he needs about 9.5m to come to a stop.

Your estimate of bicycle stopping distance is wrong. Or you confused distance to the side with distance in front. See graphs. Source: https://bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/15572/what-is-the-braking-stopping-distance-for-bicycles

Cyclist gesticulating wildly at me
Cyclist gesticulating wildly at me
Neemie · 02/06/2025 12:02

You are driving a machine that can seriously injure or kill someone. You have a responsibility to be careful.

PeapodMcgee · 02/06/2025 11:59

southerngirl10 · 02/06/2025 11:55

There's definitely a new breed of cyclist on the road these days. I label them the climate change cyclist. They are angrier than the 'normal' cyclist because they are 'saving the planet' from horrible pollutants like cars and vans. They set out from home angry and arrive home even angrier by the look of things.

There's definitely an old breed of driver on the road these days. I label them the climate-change denial driver. They are angrier than the 'normal' driver because they are determined to prove everyone wrong, especially cyclists and horse riders minding their own business, and continue polluting the planet with impunity. They set out from home angry and arrive home even angrier by the look of things.

Asdada · 02/06/2025 11:58

southerngirl10 · 02/06/2025 11:55

There's definitely a new breed of cyclist on the road these days. I label them the climate change cyclist. They are angrier than the 'normal' cyclist because they are 'saving the planet' from horrible pollutants like cars and vans. They set out from home angry and arrive home even angrier by the look of things.

If you say so.

Are you also saying that this cyclist was wrong to be scared by this drivers lethal actions?

southerngirl10 · 02/06/2025 11:55

There's definitely a new breed of cyclist on the road these days. I label them the climate change cyclist. They are angrier than the 'normal' cyclist because they are 'saving the planet' from horrible pollutants like cars and vans. They set out from home angry and arrive home even angrier by the look of things.

doodleschnoodle · 02/06/2025 11:42

I think if you have to ‘nip in’ so suddenly after overtaking a cyclist then it was an unsafe manoeuvre as you obviously couldn’t see far enough ahead to be overtaking in the first place.

It’s worrying how many people have such little patience on the road, choosing to do risky and unsafe overtakes instead of waiting an extra 30 seconds or whatever for a clear road. Just take a deep breath and relax 🧘‍♀️

Runssometimes · 02/06/2025 11:34

Spirallingdownwards · 02/06/2025 10:54

Bike path or shared path but also doesn't matter either way.

Interesting to note that the rule of the most vulnerable user (in this case pedestrians) goes out of the window when the other party is a cyclist.

well no, the rule hasn’t gone out the window. I don’t know where you’re getting that. He didn’t plough into anyone, he respected that despite them not being on the “right” place. The pedestrian is always top of the hierarchy regardless where they are. and plenty of dozy pedestrians wandering about without looking. He at no point suggested they were in the wrong or blamed them but walking two abreast blocking a cycle lane meant he had to evade them. It was an underpass so he was going downhill. Hard to stop quickly and he oversteered. A bike would have been going faster so wouldn’t have been an issue. Plenty of time to adjust speed and not need to swerve.

Obviously he was going to avoid them as well aware he could hurt them and probably himself too.

i came off my bike also by avoiding a pedestrian, years ago, I don’t want to hurt anyone, so I swerved and braked hard - I didn’t have much time he jumped off a bus that was indicating and pulling away from a bus stop so I didn’t expect him to get off. Drivers don’t usually open doors on moving buses or perhaps the teen hit the door open button that was on older buses. Driver of bus could have opened door who knows who’s at fault but one of those things. Either way as a cyclist you know if you’re coming off your bike it’s gong to hurt. Went straight over the bars of course, I broke my helmet, blacked out, had concussion, tore all my clothes and had impressive bruises for weeks. And I wasn’t actually going that fast given I was near a bus stop.

im just saying I know how it feels to get a fright and think of how easily you can get seriously hurt.

randomchap · 02/06/2025 11:32

PetiteBlondeDuBoulevardBrune · 02/06/2025 11:27

Cyclists seem to love getting outraged at cars, almost as much as they love putting pedestrians in danger by cycling on the pavement and through red lights.

This particular cyclist was just going about their day and was put in danger by a poor choice by a driver.

What's the point in bringing up how some other cyclists cycle? Just looks like whataboutary

PetiteBlondeDuBoulevardBrune · 02/06/2025 11:27

Cyclists seem to love getting outraged at cars, almost as much as they love putting pedestrians in danger by cycling on the pavement and through red lights.

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