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Cyclist gesticulating wildly at me

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FrankyGoesToBollywood · 02/06/2025 08:49

On the school run this morning which involves driving down a narrow winding lane which is always very busy at school run time. The lane is wide enough for two cars but it’s tight. There are three schools on this route and at school drop off and pick ups times it’s busy and congested. It’s 30mph. This morning I was driving along at about 25mph and a man dressed in serious looking cycling gear was cycling. I overtook him with quite a bit of space, definitely more than the 1.5m minimum, and as I was overtaking I could see a car coming towards me so nipped in in front of him- again definitely more than 1.5m from him. My windows were closed but I could then hear him shouting wildly “what the F was that!!” Over and over again and gesticulating. I didn’t indicate. I’m worried he will report me he was going wild, I genuinely thought I was driving quite considerately until I saw his reaction!

I’m now second guessing how close I was to him when I pulled in in front of him, and thinking he will report me and upload footage. If so how likely is it I will hear about it or be prosecuted?

OP posts:
Runssometimes · 03/06/2025 07:14

Oh OP you’ve not covered yourself in glory here.

The road is narrow but has enough space for two cars to pass by but if a person walking their dog is on it and a car comes along the person has to sink into the hedge. Why can’t the car give space, there is space for two cars apparently. If there are two cars one should wait behind the pedestrian to overtake wide and slow,

Even if the cyclist is out for a hobby - which you decided purely on attire - he is entitled to be in the road and you are obligated - by law - to act in accordance with the code which says you should have overtaken with care and in the hierarchy of road users he trumps you. I wore full Lycra when I commuted 26 miles a day per bike. It’s more comfortable. For short rides I don’t. You’ve no idea what his journey was and it’s irrelevant,

What if it were a person on a horse? Same applies. We all pay for the roads and actually subsidise your use of them.

You don’t sound like a good or safe driver tbh. You sound like you think you and your car are going on more important journeys than anyone else and you are more important. You are not. Everyone deserves to be safe and the onus is on you in the large and powerful vehicle to act accordingly. The cyclist clearly did nothing wrong. You did. Your actions could have been catastrophic but here you are justifying them,

Flashahah · 03/06/2025 06:28

FrankyGoesToBollywood · 02/06/2025 21:30

Thank you for all the replies and sorry it’s taken me all day to respond!

Firstly we do live semi rurally- the lane I described has no footpaths and as mentioned is narrow- if someone is walking their dog on it and a car comes along they have to sink into the hedge so it’s not a route suitable for walking to school with a child. We also live three miles away and this is the nearest school.

I do accept on reflection I should have waited to overtake until I could see further ahead and wasn’t as near to a bend, but I’m not lying when I say I was considerate to the cyclist and felt I left plenty of room. Like I say it was definitely over the minimum, I’m not saying it was that amount exactly, but he was certainly never in danger of being hit by the car and nor did I slam on my brakes after passing him as some have suggested.

The reason I mentioned his clothing is because he seemed it me to be out for a hobby ride, not cycling to work, plus there’s nothing around there unless he’s a teacher at one of the schools! I know cyclists have the same rights to use roads as everyone else but you’d think people would exercise common sense and not choose to cycle on narrow country lanes when there are lots of cars trying to get to school for a specific time. I know I’ll be flamed for saying that but come on it’s common sense!

You decided that it’s a hobby ride, you’ve no idea and are just assuming nonsense!

And so what if it was?

Get up earlier, get your children in the car earlier so you don’t have to make rash decisions when over taking and you can wait behind cyclists. You know the specific time you need to get to school as you say. So leave earlier.

You sound quite honestly that you think that you own the road, you don’t. Drivers, cyclists, walkers are all using the same road.

Common sense means don’t have overtake on a bend…. use some.

2ndbestslayer · 02/06/2025 23:41

You're on shaky ground accusing someone of a lack of common sense when you overtook near a bend on a busy road....

LordEmsworth · 02/06/2025 22:40

I know cyclists have the same rights to use roads as everyone else but you’d think people would exercise common sense and not choose to cycle on narrow country lanes when there are lots of cars trying to get to school for a specific time. I know I’ll be flamed for saying that but come on it’s common sense!

Have you thought of contacting your local council and getting them to set restrictions so that only parents can use these roads during school run times? Given that no-one else has a legitimate reason to get in your way, that seems entirely reasonable...

Glad you've managed to overcome your fear of being reported for dangerous driving, it'll make it easier next time you pull in front of a cyclist / pedestrian with 1.5m clearance to ignore them getting upset!

FrankyGoesToBollywood · 02/06/2025 21:30

Thank you for all the replies and sorry it’s taken me all day to respond!

Firstly we do live semi rurally- the lane I described has no footpaths and as mentioned is narrow- if someone is walking their dog on it and a car comes along they have to sink into the hedge so it’s not a route suitable for walking to school with a child. We also live three miles away and this is the nearest school.

I do accept on reflection I should have waited to overtake until I could see further ahead and wasn’t as near to a bend, but I’m not lying when I say I was considerate to the cyclist and felt I left plenty of room. Like I say it was definitely over the minimum, I’m not saying it was that amount exactly, but he was certainly never in danger of being hit by the car and nor did I slam on my brakes after passing him as some have suggested.

The reason I mentioned his clothing is because he seemed it me to be out for a hobby ride, not cycling to work, plus there’s nothing around there unless he’s a teacher at one of the schools! I know cyclists have the same rights to use roads as everyone else but you’d think people would exercise common sense and not choose to cycle on narrow country lanes when there are lots of cars trying to get to school for a specific time. I know I’ll be flamed for saying that but come on it’s common sense!

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GiveDogBone · 02/06/2025 19:28

Agix · 02/06/2025 08:51

Unlikely. Cyclists like to have a go even when they don't have a leg to stand on. Absolutely baffling they'd decide to take their ride during the hours of the morning everyone's going to work or dropping kids off at school, if they're afraid of cars being close to them. I suppose he expected you to trawl behind him the whole way.

Er… maybe because they are cycling to work? Or maybe because they have jsut as much right to be on the roads as anyone else.

And, if it wasn’t safe to overtake, yes you do have to wait behind them.

Flashahah · 02/06/2025 19:14

southerngirl10 · 02/06/2025 18:51

They do seem rather an unhappy bunch, don't they

Not angry though, like some….

southerngirl10 · 02/06/2025 18:51

Superhansrantowindsor · 02/06/2025 18:50

Don’t worry op. In the words of Malcolm Tucker - even cyclists hate cyclists.

They do seem rather an unhappy bunch, don't they

Superhansrantowindsor · 02/06/2025 18:50

Don’t worry op. In the words of Malcolm Tucker - even cyclists hate cyclists.

Flashahah · 02/06/2025 18:47

southerngirl10 · 02/06/2025 18:45

Is it? Feels like a challenge according to this thread.

As is driving with other road users for the OP.

southerngirl10 · 02/06/2025 18:45

Redpeach · 02/06/2025 18:12

Its also a really good way to get to work

Is it? Feels like a challenge according to this thread.

Flashahah · 02/06/2025 18:17

Chiseltip · 02/06/2025 15:08

Cyclists are so bloody selfish, they choose to play their little hobby on a public road, creating a nuisance and inconveniencing others, then they get all upset when someone overtakes them, behaving in a threatening and abusive manner. We need to start reporting Cyclists for their behaviour.

I don't know of any other hobby that’s played on public roads.

Don't worry OP, I doubt the little man child you passed will report anything.

Cycling should be banned on public roads.

Who are you going to report them too?

Redpeach · 02/06/2025 18:12

southerngirl10 · 02/06/2025 16:37

Cycling has become a protest against climate change. Wake up, have breakfast, put your helmet on and hope one those b*d cars or vans comes near enough to get them on camera. One less car off the road, done my bit for climate change.

Come within two metres of me when I'm cycling, I dare you!!

All hail King Jeremy!!

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Its also a really good way to get to work

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 18:08

Asdada · 02/06/2025 18:01

My cycle path gripe is they don’t go from A to B without going via C and D first. Or there are shared with oblivious pedestrians with headphones in. So while it’s legal to do so I’ll use the road thanks.

Those pesky peds!

Asdada · 02/06/2025 18:01

MoominUnderWater · 02/06/2025 17:49

But have you tried actually cycling along them? Because seeing them does not always mean you see the actual issues. Sometimes they are also more dangerous because they end abruptly in a dangerous location, there’s one near me which ends with a massive kerb/drop down. I’m not using that with 25mm tyre carbon wheels. It’s like a 30cm drop.

Other ones i don’t use have loads of driveways and side roads which the cycle path crosses, so puts me at risk of a collision with every crossing.

Then the fact they aren’t swept of debris so I get more punctures….the thorns and glass aren’t going to be noticeable to a motorist driving alongside.

My cycle path gripe is they don’t go from A to B without going via C and D first. Or there are shared with oblivious pedestrians with headphones in. So while it’s legal to do so I’ll use the road thanks.

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 17:56

MoominUnderWater · 02/06/2025 17:49

But have you tried actually cycling along them? Because seeing them does not always mean you see the actual issues. Sometimes they are also more dangerous because they end abruptly in a dangerous location, there’s one near me which ends with a massive kerb/drop down. I’m not using that with 25mm tyre carbon wheels. It’s like a 30cm drop.

Other ones i don’t use have loads of driveways and side roads which the cycle path crosses, so puts me at risk of a collision with every crossing.

Then the fact they aren’t swept of debris so I get more punctures….the thorns and glass aren’t going to be noticeable to a motorist driving alongside.

Yes. I must be lucky in my area.

Redpeach · 02/06/2025 17:53

PetiteBlondeDuBoulevardBrune · 02/06/2025 16:43

Running on pavement (at speed), going through red lights, not stoppping at stop signs. Just some examples. Someone in my family was actually injured by a cyclist on the pavement - and they didn’t even stop!

Cars have form for that too

Dangermoo · 02/06/2025 17:53

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 16:50

Yes i agree! And I stand by my original post 'entitled' possibly back down on moron!!!! It's all Boris's fault!!

😆 🤣

Redpeach · 02/06/2025 17:52

PetiteBlondeDuBoulevardBrune · 02/06/2025 17:36

That is fair, but why not also ask: how many times do you witness dangerous/illegal behaviour from cyclist on an average 15min spent walking outside vs from car drivers?

Today, just 1h ago on the school run, literally when leaving my house there was a cyclist on the pavement. More pavement-riders were encountered. Some also crossed red lights. Nothing to report from drivers, they all indicated when turning into the side roads I was crossing and left me cross before turning. And none of them drove at a red light. Anecdotical of course, but this is a fair representation of what happens in urban areas.

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I see dangerous driving far more

MoominUnderWater · 02/06/2025 17:49

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 17:18

Im talking about the ones I have seen! Lovely cycle paths with beautiful scenery.

But have you tried actually cycling along them? Because seeing them does not always mean you see the actual issues. Sometimes they are also more dangerous because they end abruptly in a dangerous location, there’s one near me which ends with a massive kerb/drop down. I’m not using that with 25mm tyre carbon wheels. It’s like a 30cm drop.

Other ones i don’t use have loads of driveways and side roads which the cycle path crosses, so puts me at risk of a collision with every crossing.

Then the fact they aren’t swept of debris so I get more punctures….the thorns and glass aren’t going to be noticeable to a motorist driving alongside.

PauliesWalnuts · 02/06/2025 17:42

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 16:15

Just another wee point to raise on the anger thing, I really dont like the idea of a woman on her own with children being shouted at and aggressively sworn at.

Just to raise a point on the anger thing, I really don’t like being called “a fat c*” by a man in a clapped out old Alfa Romeo but that’s exactly what happened to me when I was riding home from work last Tuesday evening. He overtook me so closely I thought he was going to knock me off and he screamed that phrase at me with utter hatred in his eyes for daring to ask him nicely to give me a bit more space next time.

PetiteBlondeDuBoulevardBrune · 02/06/2025 17:36

nomas · 02/06/2025 16:58

How many people are killed by cars each year vs how many are killed cyclists?

I don’t even own a cycle but the posts here are crazy.

That is fair, but why not also ask: how many times do you witness dangerous/illegal behaviour from cyclist on an average 15min spent walking outside vs from car drivers?

Today, just 1h ago on the school run, literally when leaving my house there was a cyclist on the pavement. More pavement-riders were encountered. Some also crossed red lights. Nothing to report from drivers, they all indicated when turning into the side roads I was crossing and left me cross before turning. And none of them drove at a red light. Anecdotical of course, but this is a fair representation of what happens in urban areas.

yakkity · 02/06/2025 17:24

UniversalTruth · 02/06/2025 08:56

Possibly cyclists like to "have a go" due to the adrenaline of almost being killed by someone in a car who overtakes when they can't see if there's enough room.

Absolutely baffling to me that so many people insist on driving kids to school when much healthier options are available. This doesn't apply to everyone but maybe it applies to the OP, that's for them to decide.

Why is it baffling to you? People haven’t get to work. They can’t walk for an hour or cycle and get kids to different schools and then to work. Hardly rocket science

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 17:18

MoominUnderWater · 02/06/2025 17:10

While I can kind of understand you being annoyed have you ever thought there may be a valid reason why they’re not using the cycle path? Cyclists don’t have a death wish…if there is a safe option they’ll normally take it. Some cycle paths are awful, either due to design or debris…and it’s not always apparent to a motorist.

i was cycling once down a hill, clear straight road. I was in the middle of the left hand lane because the inner third had an awful crack/rut running the length of the hill as well as numerous potholes. No cars coming up the hill and you could see for a mile. A car coming behind me overtakes, slows to my pace and winds the window down and the woman driver proceeds to berate me for being in the middle of the lane not at the left. I wasn’t in her way, I caused her no issue at all, she had plenty of space to pass me, I didn’t affect her in anyway shape or form. I was so fucking cross. But in her big 4x4 bubble she had no idea at all and I guess just thought I was being “entitled”.

Im talking about the ones I have seen! Lovely cycle paths with beautiful scenery.

MoominUnderWater · 02/06/2025 17:10

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 17:03

Ok I admit I find the majority of them a nuisance. For instance it annoys me when cyclists are on a busy dangerous road holding up traffic when there is a clear cycle path alongside.

While I can kind of understand you being annoyed have you ever thought there may be a valid reason why they’re not using the cycle path? Cyclists don’t have a death wish…if there is a safe option they’ll normally take it. Some cycle paths are awful, either due to design or debris…and it’s not always apparent to a motorist.

i was cycling once down a hill, clear straight road. I was in the middle of the left hand lane because the inner third had an awful crack/rut running the length of the hill as well as numerous potholes. No cars coming up the hill and you could see for a mile. A car coming behind me overtakes, slows to my pace and winds the window down and the woman driver proceeds to berate me for being in the middle of the lane not at the left. I wasn’t in her way, I caused her no issue at all, she had plenty of space to pass me, I didn’t affect her in anyway shape or form. I was so fucking cross. But in her big 4x4 bubble she had no idea at all and I guess just thought I was being “entitled”.

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