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AIBU- pulling someone up on snarky comments.

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Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 07:57

So I work and DH is retired. We have a dog. I work 4 days a week . On the days I work DH walks the dog in the morning and I walk it in the evening. My days off we swap it around.
There is a group of dog walkers that meet in the morning. One man thinks its hilarious to ask if Ive enjoyed my sleep in/ lazy day/ sending DH out while I relax ect.
every single time I see him. 2 years of me just ignoring him / saying I work ect.
I work in a unit that deals with palliative care. Yesterday was a bloody hard day.
So this morning he said it must be nice to laze about on a Sunday and send DH out so I let him have it with both barrels - told him ( in rough terms) what my day consisted of. That I was up and out by 6am. Long drive. The realities of my job.
He was silent. Got home and his wife has watsapped to say Ive upset him !@@.
AIBU to think he deserves it.

OP posts:
Purplebunnie · 03/06/2025 10:13

@Fantailsflitting is spot on

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 03/06/2025 10:10

Back from dog walk and a coffee afterwards. No sign of Annoying Fucker.
However 2 other people say she contacted them after I replied to her as her H wasn't entirely honest with her. Told her that all he had said was hello and I screamed and shouted at him. Other witnesses confirmed that firstly he had made his lazy comment twice first time I replied with " No AF I work Sundays, I tell you most weeks ." so 2 mins later he said it again. And secondly that I didnt raise my voice at all, one described my tone as akin to a primary school teacher.
Also found out that it was suggested he leave a community gardening group a few years ago due to a bullying incident ( against a woman)
He took early retirement, is early 60's.
So thats that. I feel sorry for his wife though. .

OP posts:
anyolddinosaur · 03/06/2025 10:02

He deserved it.
The group will be happier without him.
Mumsnet is plagued by teenagers who think it is fun to write rubbish.

I might have posted a comment along the lines of wouldnt it be great if everyone was kind and didnt repeatedly make unfunny remarks - but only to women."

Nominative · 03/06/2025 09:54

LootyTootyIW · 03/06/2025 08:55

You aren't being unreasonable to shut down his passive aggressive nastiness.
You are being unreasonable if you were aggressive about it in response. Being annoyed (rightly, imo) doesn't justify a "both barrels" reply.

Even after two years of politely trying to put him right and being ignored?

Nominative · 03/06/2025 09:50

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 20:39

My original point was that bearing in mind that the OP doesn’t at this stage know anything about racism or misogyny. They’ve just had to deal with being called lazy for two years which they have not condoned or challenged, I personally feel based on that it was unreasonable to give them both barrels. I do not think his conduct is acceptable nor do I think the OP should have taken her bad day out on him. I’m not asking you to agree with me, it’s just one person’s opinion.

OP certainly knew about his misogyny, because she was aware she was being challenged and called lazy where men like her husband were not. She has told him she works, and he chooses to ignore that.

In any event, on what basis can it possibly be OK to keep saying someone is lazy without any foundation? And how can that be the target's fault?

LBFseBrom · 03/06/2025 09:24

He sounds utterly appalling.

I am looking forward to hearing if he has turned up today. From what you have said, others in the group think he is a prat, including your husband.

Feel sorry for his wife, I do. How awful to have a husband who makes inappropriate, embarrassing remarks to acquaintances.

Ignore the man from now on, freeze him out and put it behind you.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 03/06/2025 09:20

I think I'd have had to say "well well well if it isnt the consequences of your own actions"

nomas · 03/06/2025 09:19

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 20:13

But she didn’t challenge him on his misogynistic or racist views, nor in solidarity with their fellow dog walker who did vote with their feet. She only gave both barrels as a result of being called lazy. The OP who continued to meet this person with the other dog walkers ignoring their disgusting opinions until they had a bad day at work and a menopausal rage. If his wife hadn’t text and he hadn’t left the group this afternoon chances are they would still be walking their dogs in the same group. Hardly the decent person that you refer to.

The way you dismiss a woman’s anger at being called lazy for two years as ‘menopausal rage’ tells us everything we need to know about you.

Are you a man?

Parkxyz · 03/06/2025 09:10

They are being crass, it’s because they don’t have anything else to say. It doesn’t matter what your job is or how hard you work it’s just their feeble attempt at making conversation.They are too thick (or don’t care) whether they are offending anyone.
I’ve know someone for years who always asks me where my suntan is when I come home from holiday,(I’m very pale skinned) I’ve learned to bat it back with “oh I knew there was something I needed to pack in my suitcase”. I get so sick of it! it’s their attempt to make the conversation all about them.
The same person asked me if my brother was “well cooked with bacon and sausages” when he was recently cremated!

ClairDeLaLune · 03/06/2025 09:06

Livelovebehappy · 03/06/2025 00:29

But who else told the guy and the other dog walkers about your set up? I see lots of lone dog walkers in a morning when I walk the dog and don’t give a thought as to where their partner is, or why they aren’t also on the walk. I suspect maybe he was chatting to your dh, who volunteered the info that you’re at home having sent him out to walk the dog, otherwise why would he know so much about the ins and outs of your day?

But she isn’t at home. FFS, can you not read? She’s at her very stressful and worthwhile job in PALLIATIVE CARE. Are you part of the #bekind brigade @Livelovebehappy? Annoying Fucker was hardly being kind was he?

BaconMassive · 03/06/2025 08:56

If you ever see him again and he says anything, just reply "I won't comment on that in case you go crying to your wife again".

LootyTootyIW · 03/06/2025 08:55

You aren't being unreasonable to shut down his passive aggressive nastiness.
You are being unreasonable if you were aggressive about it in response. Being annoyed (rightly, imo) doesn't justify a "both barrels" reply.

TheGamesThatPlayUs · 03/06/2025 08:53

DontTouchRoach · 02/06/2025 08:04

Oh, he absolutely deserved it and his wife can fuck off.

This.

IVbumble · 03/06/2025 08:47

Just waiting patiently for the obligatory dog pic now that OP has sorted Mr Snark.

ForTealBird · 03/06/2025 08:36

People like this that just jump in and haven’t an inkling of what ‘a going on in people’s lives. And the broken record thing - what a bore. He deserved both those barrels ! Sexist pig can bore off. You do a job that really matters at a time when people need support the most.

Haretodaybadgertomorrow · 03/06/2025 08:28

NJLX2021 · 03/06/2025 07:37

Do you think he knows that he was "set right" for 2 years though?

I'd bet none of that even registered with him.

That was my point - for men who can't communicate in anything other than 'Male banter' styles, they don't register serious 'replies'.. let alone how few men understand subtle looks and responses, and have no idea when someone is annoyed at them. They respond to - banter back, or aggression/overt emotions.

I'd be willing to bet if you asked this man at any point before yesterday "have you been annoying that woman" he would be blindsided and confused, and think that they have a friendly laugh every time they see each other.

None of that excuses him, but just explains the disconnect between his reaction to her getting annoyed, and her perception of the situation.

But if you follow that argument through logically and I don’t agree with the premise tbh but for the sake of argument ; yet again it’s women who have to make efforts to fit in with how men communicate and adapt and not vice versa?

Men aren’t even able to meet women half way?

Women are responsible for facilitating his inability to listen?

Op is at fault for not communicating in a style that this know-it-all can understand?

If he is genuinely bewildered then it’s because he hasn’t been listening for two years and that’s probably because he has already made sexist assumptions and knows in his own misogynistic tiny mind that he is right. And that comes from a base prejudice that women aren’t worth listening to in the first place!

Calmdownpeople · 03/06/2025 08:28

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 08:05

Why do you think that? Genuine question, not being argumentative.

I agree OP. He deserves to be told to shut it but clearly thought it was fine (it wasn’t) for two years. Letting him have it ‘with both barrels’ wasn’t necessary but clearly a culmination of two years worth of crappy comments.

He probably thought it was fine as it had been going on two years and you never said anything. It’s a good example of address things when they happen and not put up with them for two years and then let rip.

Thatfirstcoff · 03/06/2025 08:19

Haretodaybadgertomorrow · 03/06/2025 08:17

Oh so now his awful behaviour is everyone else’s fault? … 🤔

No

but I can’t imagine having a racist misogynist bully within my walking group for years and he’s been allowed to continue unfettered without anyone saying anything

JunglePug · 03/06/2025 08:18

He totally deserved your wrath, @Guttyyyyyyyyy. You put up with his constant idiotic and provocative comments for two years. You must have the patience of a saint, hun - and what an amazing job you do. I am in awe. x

Haretodaybadgertomorrow · 03/06/2025 08:17

Thatfirstcoff · 03/06/2025 07:45

Well this dog walking group itself seem to have allowed a racist misogynist bully to operate within their group for years (and I bet he’s a homophobic too)

Oh so now his awful behaviour is everyone else’s fault? … 🤔

Mummyratbag · 03/06/2025 08:12

I can just imagine the entitled sort of knob who thinks his bants are hilarious and has no self awareness that not only is he tedious, repetitive and a complete dick, but that it's absolutely not acceptable to be a racist, misogynistic pick. Honestly angry for you. Well done.

Hopefully he'll stay at home with his poor bruised ego.

Scottishskifun · 03/06/2025 08:10

Sounds like he's thrown his toys out of the pram for being called out on his behaviour!
Plus side if he's left the WhatsApp group and is having a proper foot stomp about it then you won't have to see him as he probably won't come.

I'm baffled by some of the comments on here your not responsible for someone else's behaviour and everyone has a point they reach before they can't ignore shitty behaviour any longer.

Thatfirstcoff · 03/06/2025 08:03

thepariscrimefiles · 03/06/2025 07:59

He was directing his racist remarks at one woman who then left the walking group and who has only just told OP about what he was saying to her. She obviously contacted OP in solidarity having experienced similar (and even worse) remarks from this man.

no doubt there are other women enduring this nonsense from him within the group…
And others must have heard over the years..
and yet he has been allowed to continue walking with the group. and no one appears to have a said a bloomin word to him. A racist misogynistic bully, who’s been allowed to carry on unfettered for years. Weird

thepariscrimefiles · 03/06/2025 07:59

Thatfirstcoff · 03/06/2025 07:43

And no one has had it out with him before when he’s been voicing these views?

This racist would have been asked to leave the group I walk with years ago

He was directing his racist remarks at one woman who then left the walking group and who has only just told OP about what he was saying to her. She obviously contacted OP in solidarity having experienced similar (and even worse) remarks from this man.

Rosscameasdoody · 03/06/2025 07:50

FleurDeFleur · 03/06/2025 07:47

I disagree. I think he knows perfectly well what he's doing. He just feels entitled to do it.

This. It reeks of entitlement and the refusal to see women as equals.

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