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AIBU- pulling someone up on snarky comments.

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Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 07:57

So I work and DH is retired. We have a dog. I work 4 days a week . On the days I work DH walks the dog in the morning and I walk it in the evening. My days off we swap it around.
There is a group of dog walkers that meet in the morning. One man thinks its hilarious to ask if Ive enjoyed my sleep in/ lazy day/ sending DH out while I relax ect.
every single time I see him. 2 years of me just ignoring him / saying I work ect.
I work in a unit that deals with palliative care. Yesterday was a bloody hard day.
So this morning he said it must be nice to laze about on a Sunday and send DH out so I let him have it with both barrels - told him ( in rough terms) what my day consisted of. That I was up and out by 6am. Long drive. The realities of my job.
He was silent. Got home and his wife has watsapped to say Ive upset him !@@.
AIBU to think he deserves it.

OP posts:
Sunnyevenings · 02/06/2025 16:22

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 08:17

A friend has just replied to her on the chat - basically saying her DH only says shit like this to women, never to him or his husband who also alternate on the dog walks. 🐕.

Did his wife message you in the main whatsapp group telling you that you had upset her DH and everyone else could see it?

I presumed she had messaged you privately and then put a 'public' message up saying 'Be kind'. If this is what happened I don't understand how your other friend replied saying that her DH would never have made his quips to another man?

If his wife messaged the entire group saying that you had upset her DH then I would reply in turn with what you have written here........

Hardgum · 02/06/2025 16:19

I gave him the full, unvarnished lowdown on what I was actually doing yesterday, nothing more.

way too much effort to have gone to Op
Will go in one ear and out the other

2 years of this? Presumably you’ve mentioned lots of time to your DH, and he’s never been inclined to tell the fool to stop being so disrespectful (and wrong) and his wife?

FeelingG00d · 02/06/2025 16:17

Misplaced attempts at humour are best ignored - provide no reaction payoff regardless of the person's motivation.

LittleMG · 02/06/2025 16:12

I would just treat him like an outsider in my life which is what he is to you and just say ‘yeah lovely’ blah blah. I don’t think I would let this wind me up.

  1. youve been curt a few times and he’s winding you up so stop giving a reaction
  2. hes just trying to be polite and speak to you, perhaps he just doesn’t really know what to say? So just say oh yeah, whatever…
I think all you’ve done is upset a neighbour it’s not made either life any better has it, you’ve got to walk past him on your walk and instead of a pleasant exchange you’ve got awkwardness. Well I can only imagine I’d feel awkward maybe you don’t care.
Sagepage · 02/06/2025 16:11

HiRen · 02/06/2025 16:02

Are you saying OP mist at all times be rational, logical, emotionally equable - but this man can behave as rudely, offensively, cruelly whenever he likes? And before you say anything about taking the moral high ground - no. It doesn’t work with men like this. They don’t know what it is. They speak only one language: racist, misogynistic garbage.

No, I am saying she has had 2 years to pull him up on it. I don’t know why she has let it go on that long. It’s obviously been bothering her, I don’t know why she just ignored it until he has pushed her over the edge. She should have called him out ages ago.

HiRen · 02/06/2025 16:02

Sagepage · 02/06/2025 14:37

I think you’re in the wrong slightly, where our been ignoring it or just saying you work. And then completely exploding. You should said ages ago “John, I know you don’t mean anything by this, but I work in an incredibly emotionally demanding job, and I find comments like this upsetting, so can you please give it a rest”.

Setting it out clearly years ago would have saved you both here.

Are you saying OP mist at all times be rational, logical, emotionally equable - but this man can behave as rudely, offensively, cruelly whenever he likes? And before you say anything about taking the moral high ground - no. It doesn’t work with men like this. They don’t know what it is. They speak only one language: racist, misogynistic garbage.

momtoboys · 02/06/2025 16:02

Don't waste one minute feeling you may have been unreasonable in pulling him up. If that is what he uses as his opening remark to greet people, he need to work on some new material.

B1anche · 02/06/2025 15:57

HunnyPot · 02/06/2025 15:37

I bet you wouldn’t have spoken like that if a woman had made the same joke.

Well we will never know because it is never women who make these crass comments.

Ohnobackagain · 02/06/2025 15:52

Well done @Guttyyyyyyyyy and yes, I’d have replied to his wife saying similar, too “he’s been making inappropriate comments every time, after having asked him to stop he has carried on and I’ve had enough. It’s notable that he only pulls this stunt with women and none of us should have to put up with it, I realise you’ve only heard his side and I understand you backing him up but you weren’t there and he needs to stop.”

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 02/06/2025 15:47

IgneousSedimentary · 02/06/2025 12:15

Exactly.

And here’s another tip for men ‘unsure’ about talking to women — if you wouldn’t say it to a man, don’t say it to a woman. If you wouldn’t tell Big Jim with the Rottweiler to ‘Give us a smile, love”, then don’t say it to Angela with the Shihtzu.

It’s really not that difficult.

Bloody agree.
I hate all this you can't say anything bullshit.

Yes you can. You can chat about many, many things

What they mean is oooh, men just can't say insulting, sexual or demanding things can they? Poor men. No idea what they can say to women if they can't talk about their juicy melons any more.

Fuck off.
Fuck right off.
Fuck off as far as anyone's ever fucked off before.
Then fuck off some more.

Deathraystare · 02/06/2025 15:44

Awwww poor man and his hurtee feelings!

ClearHoldBuild · 02/06/2025 15:44

Guavafish1 · 02/06/2025 08:03

I think you over reacted

I agree with this, for two years you have ignored him and haven’t said anything to him about his bad humour other than you work. He greets you in his usual annoying way and then he gets both barrels after you have had a bad night which he is not going to know. In the last two years either you or your husband could have told him that you don’t appreciate the lazy comments. Instead you have just exploded.

Kingsleadhat · 02/06/2025 15:42

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 08:37

I have replied to his wife that it was a proportional response to 2 plus years of him intimating that I was lazy when in fact I was working and that if he cant handle it maybe he should refrain from making unsolicited comments.

I don't know you, but I'm proud of you. You do a very difficult job why should you let this sexist twerp undermine you when you're just trying to walk your dog? He's a twat and you're a star

FuckityFux · 02/06/2025 15:41

Well done OP, although how you managed to stay calm during two years of negging is remarkably impressive! I’d have been very blunt to his face much sooner in the proceedings as I am ND and don’t ever feel the need to “be kind” to male twats.

And as for the other poster… “the fact he is so upset his wife is standing up for him he must be very sensitive”

I can only assume they’re on a wind up because surely no-one in real life is that dim? 😳🤣🤣

lilacmamacat · 02/06/2025 15:40

What an insensitive, ignorant dickhead. Sounds like he deserves what he got. Him being 'upset' is NOT your problem.

HunnyPot · 02/06/2025 15:37

I bet you wouldn’t have spoken like that if a woman had made the same joke.

Francestein · 02/06/2025 15:34

This man is why women everywhere are googling how to make Beef Wellington

Cyclebabble · 02/06/2025 15:29

I think by the sounds of it you have been incredibly patient. As soon as he had done this more than once I would have said I did not appreciate the tone or wording of what he was saying. I am none too impressed with his wife either who seems to be a bit of enabler for his behaviour. She rings you saying you have hurt his feelings....

rainingsnoring · 02/06/2025 15:28

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 12:05

Exactly, its like you've met him!
Another group member has just told me that the reason she hasn't been for weeks is that he kept asking her if her sis in law was a ladyboy because the sis in law is from the Phillipines.
He is just a twat.

Of my goodness, what a twat. Not only is he rude, socially unaware, sexist and a pathetic coward who runs home to complain to his wife. He is also racist.
It's a very good thing that you stood up to him. Hopefully, the whole group will put a stop to his 'hilarious' comments now.

AlexisAlexis · 02/06/2025 15:27

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 07:57

So I work and DH is retired. We have a dog. I work 4 days a week . On the days I work DH walks the dog in the morning and I walk it in the evening. My days off we swap it around.
There is a group of dog walkers that meet in the morning. One man thinks its hilarious to ask if Ive enjoyed my sleep in/ lazy day/ sending DH out while I relax ect.
every single time I see him. 2 years of me just ignoring him / saying I work ect.
I work in a unit that deals with palliative care. Yesterday was a bloody hard day.
So this morning he said it must be nice to laze about on a Sunday and send DH out so I let him have it with both barrels - told him ( in rough terms) what my day consisted of. That I was up and out by 6am. Long drive. The realities of my job.
He was silent. Got home and his wife has watsapped to say Ive upset him !@@.
AIBU to think he deserves it.

Fuck him. What a moron. Also getting his wife to speak up for him is pathetic!

rainingsnoring · 02/06/2025 15:25

Guttyyyyyyyyy · 02/06/2025 08:37

I have replied to his wife that it was a proportional response to 2 plus years of him intimating that I was lazy when in fact I was working and that if he cant handle it maybe he should refrain from making unsolicited comments.

Good for you @Guttyyyyyyyyy. You have been exceptionally patient. Most people would have said something long before you did.

Fernticket · 02/06/2025 15:19

I had this one of my hobby groups. Man making nasty comments to women - never to men!
In the end the (male) leader of the group emailed him and told him he wasn't welcome back if he continued. That was a couple of months ago and he hasn't been back since. It had to be done as he was creating a bad atmosphere.

jeaux90 · 02/06/2025 15:16

Be Kind = middle class for STFU

The rude asshole should clearly STFU a bit more often.

deusexmacintosh · 02/06/2025 15:15

LBFseBrom · 02/06/2025 09:20

I don't blame you but it might have been easier to just say, "Good morning/evening", and move on. I'm surprised you know him well enough for his wife to have your details, frankly!

I do understand how his remarks are annoying, they would annoy me but I wondered, is this an elderly man who does not remember details but wants to be pleasant?

In future, just ignore him - and fgs don't get into whatsapp with random dog walkers, never mind their spouses!

Got to echo that last sentence, OP. Distance is everything.

You did well, but in future remember the words of the great English writer Quentin Crisp - to avoid unnecessary drama, keep your dealings with others to a pleasantly scant minimum! I only join whatsapps for people I know very well, or people from my own ethnic community/cultural background. English people on the whole, as Crisp once said, have a tendency to be passive aggressive bullies. The random middle aged/older ones you meet in dog walking communities can be cliquey, small minded oddballs and the last people you want to be overly tolerant or friendly with.

Try to nip them in the bud in future. The repeated jokes are a form of boundary crossing and white men in particular love that indirect form of harassment 'cos they can flip the switch and play victim when you call them out. You have to step to them and shut it right down so they know that you know what they're all about and won't be played.

IzzyHandsIsMySpiritAnimal · 02/06/2025 15:13

TheFifthTellytubby · 02/06/2025 13:45

😂

insert it into him sideways?😊