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15 Billion for UK nuclear warhead programme

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Howhighcanitbe · 02/06/2025 07:03

Just seen this and feel it’s absolutely obscene. What a huge waste of money. Starmer apparently wants to build more nuclear submarines too. I understand that defence spending is necessary but this seems far too much in the wrong areas? Surely it would be better to focus on other weaknesses as I assume cyber attacks would be more damaging and more likely than conventional?

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Trolllol · 02/06/2025 08:06

Howhighcanitbe · 02/06/2025 07:57

I think it’s far more likely that we would be crippled by cyber attacks to make day to day life as we know it impossible and attacks on the energy network . We would then destroy ourselves from within no need for conventional attacks. This just seems like we are a few steps away from parading our weapons through the streets North Korea style. It’s inflammatory. We should be quietly strengthening vital systems from within to deter attacks and making sure systems are in place for things like food and medicine distribution. Instead the plan seems to be for the government to have shiny new weapons , I assume bunker upgrades too and we would just be left to it if war played out the way they assume / want! It’s not the correct focus anymore I think any country that is a threat will use non conventional means to attack.

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Yes and we are spending on that too, fear not

TranceNation · 02/06/2025 08:03

It is sad we still live in a world where countries can't get along but, this sort of investment is needed. It's like an insurance policy.

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Howhighcanitbe · 02/06/2025 07:57

Trolllol · 02/06/2025 07:45

OP you can offer to go around in a dingy and a stick protecting us from the various ships that keep coming to having a look at our sea defence systems

I think it’s far more likely that we would be crippled by cyber attacks to make day to day life as we know it impossible and attacks on the energy network . We would then destroy ourselves from within no need for conventional attacks. This just seems like we are a few steps away from parading our weapons through the streets North Korea style. It’s inflammatory. We should be quietly strengthening vital systems from within to deter attacks and making sure systems are in place for things like food and medicine distribution. Instead the plan seems to be for the government to have shiny new weapons , I assume bunker upgrades too and we would just be left to it if war played out the way they assume / want! It’s not the correct focus anymore I think any country that is a threat will use non conventional means to attack.

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LogicalBlodge · 02/06/2025 07:53

It's defence spending. I think it's money well spent. Like an insurance policy. Let's hope we never need them but it's the world we live in. I'd rather not but I don't want a government sticking it's head in the sand- but we do need to also spend more on food security as we are quite vulnerable.

AlteredStater · 02/06/2025 07:52

The UK needs far better defences, I wish that wasn't the case but you've only to look at what is going on worldwide to know that we do need to beef up what we have considerably. It will bring new jobs too, don't forget.

CatOnAHotRadiator · 02/06/2025 07:48

When these bits of news break I tend to work on the assumption that our government has intel that suggests this is necessary. The sort of intel not available to those of us with day to day lives. It’s one area where you have to have a bit of faith. Whether this is imminent threat, general world developments, or working with allies to protect each other - all involve information that we’ll likely never know.

OneFootInTheDave · 02/06/2025 07:47

Unfortunately I think it’s more than necessary in the world we live in.

We should be investing in all defences too, including cyber related crime.

Trolllol · 02/06/2025 07:45

OP you can offer to go around in a dingy and a stick protecting us from the various ships that keep coming to having a look at our sea defence systems

greencartbluecart · 02/06/2025 07:43

It’s not the spend - it’s the what on that is probably wrong - as with OP cyber defenses, drone defensive- modern issues not last century mass annihilation

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Donotpanicoknowpanic · 02/06/2025 07:42

Defence takes a long time to build up

War can come along quickly

Without the right equipment to defend ourselves the NHS will not exist

In one way it's a waste of money

In another way it's the best money you can spend

Also a lot of it will be spent in the UK in hi-tech industries which will help boost the economy