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To say it’s stressful havivg a beautiful daughter?

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TheBlueUniform · 02/06/2025 02:07

That’s it really. The attention they will draw and the fact they’ll have to grow up faster than they perhaps would. Men (including those that think that they have a right to chat up 16 year olds) will try it on and it makes me feel sick. DD is only 16 (though will be 17 in 4 months) but i already see men in their late 20’s:30’s leering at her and I get so mad and want to shout ‘she’s a child you creepy pervs’ but I don’t think anyone would care or react.

She isn’t a young child but she equally isn’t an adult yet and all the weirdos and creeps about make me feel so uneasy.

How do handle it if you’re in the same situation? I want to punch them all 😂

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CranberryBush · 02/06/2025 08:58

If she wasn't "beautiful" and happy with her appearance then youd have the worry that she'd have low confidence and then settle for a bad relationship.
Having daughters is stressful regardless of appearance.

Seafoampleb · 02/06/2025 08:57

I think it’s a problem for exceptionally beautiful girls.
TW - child sexual abuse so don’t read on if it’ll upset you.

Many years ago I ended up with a very beautiful child in my care at one point. She was abused sexually by 2 adults in the home, a teacher was sacked for taking pictures of her/up her skirt (under the age of ten) and 2 more incidence's happened with a family friend and someone else who was just randomly able to access this child. She had older sisters and younger sisters who were not as beautiful as she was (still very beautiful) and they weren’t abused. One of her adult abusers (related) told her it was her fault for being so pretty that made men lose control and she should expect this from all men.

She wasn’t with me very long but I think regularly about her and wonder was it her beauty that gave these disgusting abusive perverse predatory bastards an almost permission to abuse her? These absolute fuckers knew abusing a little girl was an evil thing to do, yet they chose her and justified it to her because of her beauty. Especially the teacher, he had so much access to children and out of all of them she was the only one he abused. Had she just been average looking and not looked like a doll would she have been left alone?
I used to think a child molester would just pick victims based on opportunity and vulnerability but this child was sought out by so many.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 02/06/2025 08:53

TheaBrandt1 · 02/06/2025 08:21

Err no Dd is not sleeping with rich men! She has lots of posh friends. She is confident gorgeous and fun so has gravitated towards a particular social group. I can’t help but notice most of the girls in the group are conventionally beautiful.

This discussion makes some women angry as shown in this thread. This is another negative. Dd has had some very odd reactions from some adults too.

Well you said rich people want her in her set and all it entails… and we’ve all heard about the porta potty parties, it sounds very similar to that, surrounded by rich people and beautiful girls like you’ve said. Just wondering if it was that?

BunnyLake · 02/06/2025 08:53

PearlHare · 02/06/2025 08:43

That may be true, we don’t know as we can’t compare everyone’s experiences, but that poster I’m replying to has several times said it’s about beauty and attractiveness and that’s what men want, when I’m trying to say is that I think every women I’ve spoken to has a story no matter what they look like, and most women have been leered at at some point no matter what they look like. It’s not about your looks, it’s about the fact you’re female and sadly, under the age of 25 it’s rife and it doesn’t matter if you have ‘curves’ or your face is what is considered beautiful at the time (maybe they do experience it more, I have seen men go nuts about a few friends faces, one man crashed his car because he was staring at my friend) but it’s not limited to just ‘attractive’ women or those with ‘curves’ it happens to girls who are very young and those who don’t fit beauty standards. And I think we need to acknowledge that because some people suggesting to beautiful people it’s just them is dangerous and suggesting it won’t happen to you if you aren’t conventionally attractive to whatever the current beauty norms are is also dangerous.

Edited

Yes very true.

The sad fact is no woman regardless of looks or age is safe from men who are lecherous creeps.

Imbusytodaysorry · 02/06/2025 08:50

ShakeItLoose · 02/06/2025 03:11

*Not all men who notice a girl's looks are creepy, it's normal. Women do it too./

🙄 There is a huge difference between noticing and leering and generally being a perv. Women don’t really act like that.

They always notice the young ones though !

Googum · 02/06/2025 08:50

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Dweetfidilove · 02/06/2025 08:49

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 02/06/2025 02:51

My dd told me that men stare at her and her friend when out. Luckily they have a group of lad mates who call this out. I hope this means that the next generation will be better.

As pp said you have to teach your dd how to deal with these situations sadly.

I really hope so too.

My daughter said she had a young man (looked around 20) pull up behind her with the usual... when she turned round, he realised she was younger so asked her age -16... He apologised and drove off.
Further up the road was the man who she said is no younger than 40 who wanted to have a full conversation and thought he could tempt her with a meal 🙄. She had to tell him 'no thank you, I'm 16', and scuttle off.

The younger men seem to be doing better.

Imbusytodaysorry · 02/06/2025 08:47

@TheBlueUniform id call them out on it! And “I will “ I feel your pain . I worry already as I have a beautiful daughter younger than yours and I predict it all .
Why should they get to be creepy men and we have to say nothing. .

I remember being 14/15 and walking to school and men in vans staring as they drive to work ( I wasn’t what you would call beautiful) i was a school girl in a skirt though . Yuck

Bourbonbonbon · 02/06/2025 08:44

I feel the same op but it's interesting to hear from other posters as early development or any vulnerability could be more worrying. My DD is prettier than I was and I remember being oblivious to more savvy friends seeing off lecherous men - obviously she will get hit on more but there are so many other possible risk factors.

PearlHare · 02/06/2025 08:43

BunnyLake · 02/06/2025 08:36

Maybe what people are saying (or meaning) is yes, every female is a target for harassment and unwanted attention but it is ramped up even more for very attractive girls? Either way, it’s all bad, none of it is ever justified and creepy men should be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves, those types of men are repugnant.

That may be true, we don’t know as we can’t compare everyone’s experiences, but that poster I’m replying to has several times said it’s about beauty and attractiveness and that’s what men want, when I’m trying to say is that I think every women I’ve spoken to has a story no matter what they look like, and most women have been leered at at some point no matter what they look like. It’s not about your looks, it’s about the fact you’re female and sadly, under the age of 25 it’s rife and it doesn’t matter if you have ‘curves’ or your face is what is considered beautiful at the time (maybe they do experience it more, I have seen men go nuts about a few friends faces, one man crashed his car because he was staring at my friend) but it’s not limited to just ‘attractive’ women or those with ‘curves’ it happens to girls who are very young and those who don’t fit beauty standards. And I think we need to acknowledge that because some people suggesting to beautiful people it’s just them is dangerous and suggesting it won’t happen to you if you aren’t conventionally attractive to whatever the current beauty norms are is also dangerous.

TheaBrandt1 · 02/06/2025 08:42

People also feel confident in telling me off especially during Covid I often got shouted at frequently. I think I have the opposite of RBF.

TheaBrandt1 · 02/06/2025 08:41

Ergh lucky you I had too many disgusting experiences to write down I’d be here all day. Tailed off now one advantage of aging! Don’t miss it at all.

MummoMa · 02/06/2025 08:41

theleafandnotthetree · 02/06/2025 08:39

Maybe I'm oblivious but I certainly can't say it's been mine. I consider myself reasonably attractive and was actively pretty when younger. I don't think I've ever been leered at. My sister has big boobs and she most definitely has, maybe that's a factor? I'm quite flat chested

Maybe you give off 'take no nonsense' vibes? :-)

theleafandnotthetree · 02/06/2025 08:39

MummoMa · 02/06/2025 04:58

I think this is the universal experience of women, beautiful or not.

Maybe I'm oblivious but I certainly can't say it's been mine. I consider myself reasonably attractive and was actively pretty when younger. I don't think I've ever been leered at. My sister has big boobs and she most definitely has, maybe that's a factor? I'm quite flat chested

TheaBrandt1 · 02/06/2025 08:38

So depressing it’s still going on. I’m 50 and had it now my dds do. Visiting North Africa is basically off limits for women of child bearing age which should be more of a scandal than it is.

GrassRainbows · 02/06/2025 08:37

Depte · 02/06/2025 07:39

Is it also stressful not being able to spell Op?

I haven't seen any evidence that the OP can't spell 'OP'.

Or perhaps you meant:
"Is it also stressful not being able to spell, OP?"

Got to watch that punctuation if we're going to pick on people's typos! 😁

BunnyLake · 02/06/2025 08:36

PearlHare · 02/06/2025 08:26

And you’re denying that women and girls who are not deemed attractive by society also get a lot of unwanted attention despite being told it repeatedly. Very odd when simply being female is obviously going to attract attention.

Maybe what people are saying (or meaning) is yes, every female is a target for harassment and unwanted attention but it is ramped up even more for very attractive girls? Either way, it’s all bad, none of it is ever justified and creepy men should be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves, those types of men are repugnant.

BunnyLake · 02/06/2025 08:29

PearlHare · 02/06/2025 08:19

Agree, it’s awful in some places, I was genuinely terrified at 13 and it ruined my trip and I swore never to go back to the country even though I had loved it since being a child. I couldn’t cope with that every day, I feel for any women who have to deal with it on a regular basis.

My holiday to Tunisia (I was around 19) was totally ruined by the men’s behaviour there. It didn’t matter if they were twelve or ninety and everything in between, there was zero respect and the sexual harassment was very (very) full on from all generations. I went with my best friend (we were very naive going there) and we had a camel ride. After the ride my friend’s ancient camel handler planted a snog like kiss on her, it was disgusting and she was angry and upset but there was nothing we could do except swear to never set foot in that dire country again. (This was circa 1980). It sickens me to even think about it 45 years later.

TheaBrandt1 · 02/06/2025 08:27

Beauty does have an impact. For good and bad. Mostly good but there are particular issues that come with it. My other Dd is normal so I see the difference.

PearlHare · 02/06/2025 08:26

icelolly12 · 02/06/2025 08:24

Some posters are almost denying her experience has anything to do with being attractive. Very odd when beauty is obviously going to attract attention.

And you’re denying that women and girls who are not deemed attractive by society also get a lot of unwanted attention despite being told it repeatedly. Very odd when simply being female is obviously going to attract attention.

MummoMa · 02/06/2025 08:26

icelolly12 · 02/06/2025 08:24

Some posters are almost denying her experience has anything to do with being attractive. Very odd when beauty is obviously going to attract attention.

I think it attracts more comment and attention from other women, in my observation. Men aren't so fussy and discerning. They just need it to be a woman.

Funnywonder · 02/06/2025 08:26

I haven’t trawled through all the comments, so it’s probably been said - beauty has little to do with it. The sort of men who leer at young girls don’t particularly care whether they are beautiful. The fact they are young - and therefore vulnerable - is enough. I got leered at, even though I wore cords and sweatshirts and looked a bit like Neil from The Young Ones. It’s utterly shit and disgusting. I’m sure your daughter is beautiful, but believe me, if you took away the beauty, she’d still be a target. I guess I hope I’m doing my bit by bringing up my two sons not to disrespect women and girls in this way.

icelolly12 · 02/06/2025 08:24

TheaBrandt1 · 02/06/2025 08:21

Err no Dd is not sleeping with rich men! She has lots of posh friends. She is confident gorgeous and fun so has gravitated towards a particular social group. I can’t help but notice most of the girls in the group are conventionally beautiful.

This discussion makes some women angry as shown in this thread. This is another negative. Dd has had some very odd reactions from some adults too.

Some posters are almost denying her experience has anything to do with being attractive. Very odd when beauty is obviously going to attract attention.

TheaBrandt1 · 02/06/2025 08:24

The perving over teen girls is pretty much universal you don’t have to be conventionally beautiful to get perved at its mostly when young though.

TheaBrandt1 · 02/06/2025 08:21

Err no Dd is not sleeping with rich men! She has lots of posh friends. She is confident gorgeous and fun so has gravitated towards a particular social group. I can’t help but notice most of the girls in the group are conventionally beautiful.

This discussion makes some women angry as shown in this thread. This is another negative. Dd has had some very odd reactions from some adults too.

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