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DH has moved out

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Passa · 02/06/2025 00:29

We purchase our house earlier this year. We’ve spent more than we would have liked but we can afford the monthly payments.
However, we underestimated the refurbishment cost, we budgeted £60k but it’s going to be closer to £100k+ : new kitchen, new wardrobes, new beds, new flooring and paint. The house is very dated and needs updating but DH has become increasingly bitter at the cost and placed the blame s on me. He’s had to sell his ISA and employee shares to fund this, and has regularly resorted to calling me names. He stayed in thr spare room for weeks but finally moved out back to his parents.
i don’t know what happens after this - will the house be sold off? We are sitting on a very significant loss if we sell it now.

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Ohsonotscrumptiois · 02/06/2025 14:11

Passa · 02/06/2025 01:44

I didn’t think it would be so, so expensive. The costs just went away from us.

Don’t think people realise how much building materials have rocketed. I bought a tiny kitchen’s worth of units for DD last month, basically four units and a sink and taps, plus worktop, £1,000 for a fairly basic range, not the cheapest and also didn’t include hob or oven as fortunately they were still in good condition.

definitely worth doing some costing on upgrading and refurbishing if you’re looking to move.

angsty · 02/06/2025 14:10

Communication and not being on the same page about priorities seems to be a real problem here. We have been restoring an old broken down house for the past five years, we bided our time, doing things as and when we could afford them depending on cashflow and time needed. You don't need "designers" etc, completely unnecessary, surely half the fun is designing it yourself exactly as you want? Of course such people are going to get you to buy things you don't need and didn't intend to get, that is literally their job. I'd steer well clear!

We moved in earlier this year and we literally have no kitchen (just some kitchen appliances in the lounge), as the kitchen space has no windows or doors so far, and as we want lovely French doors, which are expensive to buy, so we just have to wait a while. We also have no cupboards in the house at all, and I mean absolutely none, apart from a couple of medicine cabinets in the bathrooms. None in the bedrooms. Not in the lounge, no kitchen cupboards, nothing. No shelving. No storage space of any kind apart from the attic. We have been living out of cardboard boxes for 5 months. It's all part of the process as we plan how and where we are going to build the cupboards and craft the spaces to our exact liking/convenience, which is exciting and fun. Not all the ceilings are complete and the floors are bare wood planks which still require further sanding and sealing (happening this month! Linseed oil is not that expensive!). It will all get done in time and we will appreciate it all the more, and it will be exactly as we want (of course some compromises with each other if we don't agree on every aspect).

Why did you have to do everything at once, and allow yourself to get involved with designers etc? Were the things you have done things you both agreed on, including the timescales and budget for them? If not, you need to start communicating much better now if you are to save the relationship. Consider compromising on things/being more patient as you go forward.

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 14:08

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 02/06/2025 14:03

Not getting involved or keeping tabs on what was going on...is also a decision. It's his house too.. It's no good not being on top of it until it reaches crisis point then having a meltdown when it doesn't work the way you expected it to and then placing all the blame on your partner. You wouldn't get away with that in other areas of your life

When we renovated our house, I was on maternity leave and did a lot of the running around to get quotes.. but there is NO WAY DH would have stood back and not gone into detailed discussion with me on the plans/cost. And I needed him to.

And yes.. building work cost more than anticipated and we had to postpone/cutback plans.
I imagine its even worse now that the cost of living crisis has dramatically increased the cost of building materials.. so estimates from even two years ago would be very out of date.

She didn’t say he blamed her. She said it was her fault. 🤷‍♀️

ZippyBrick · 02/06/2025 14:08

I'll be honest, I don't blame him if he's leaving you.

It's clear you took for granted that he would pay for your whims (you state that you could never afford the mortgage and he's had to sell shares etc to fund it) and are now finding out that his patience has run out.

You also state designers pointed out things you didn't realise you needed. Sounds like you were upsold beyond your means, and don't really know the value of his money.

Not once have you broken down your costs or explained why you couldn't get a 2nd job, or do overtime. Sounds like you don't want to deal with the consequences or admit that you are to blame.

All in, I think he's made a terrible mistake and I hope he makes his money back on the house etc.

REDB99 · 02/06/2025 14:07

BigRenoLittleBudget · 02/06/2025 02:19

Sorry not the point of the thread but I’m struggling to see how you could spend over 100k on those things. Have you been pushing for top end stuff that you can’t afford? There must be a backstory here

This could easily cost 100K, prices for work are so high currently. A new bathroom done to a decent standard is easily 15K. I had a new kitchen and utility plus some structural work and it was 30K. Work is very expensive these days. They could have done it in stages though and spread the cost out as and when they could afford it.

Datafan55 · 02/06/2025 14:06

Skippydoodle · 02/06/2025 08:02

Same here, it doesn’t add up. We’ve just spent £100k, massive loft conversion to our bungalow to include 2 en-suites, 2 dressing grooms. Complete reconfiguration downstairs, every ceiling & wall re plastered,fantastic new kitchen, all new heating, electrics, doors and windows & a new drive!

I spent 100k on my entire actual flat (albeit 15 years ago)!

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 02/06/2025 14:03

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 13:28

OP said

I got carried away with the house and when designers came to visit they added extra I didn’t know we needed and it slowly went out of control.

it doesn’t look like joint decisions to me.

Not getting involved or keeping tabs on what was going on...is also a decision. It's his house too.. It's no good not being on top of it until it reaches crisis point then having a meltdown when it doesn't work the way you expected it to and then placing all the blame on your partner. You wouldn't get away with that in other areas of your life

When we renovated our house, I was on maternity leave and did a lot of the running around to get quotes.. but there is NO WAY DH would have stood back and not gone into detailed discussion with me on the plans/cost. And I needed him to.

And yes.. building work cost more than anticipated and we had to postpone/cutback plans.
I imagine its even worse now that the cost of living crisis has dramatically increased the cost of building materials.. so estimates from even two years ago would be very out of date.

Itsmeeeeeee · 02/06/2025 14:01

Designers? Why did you need designers? You can't have had all the work done already, isn't there anything you can cancel and save money to save your marriage? If not then it's probably best you sell up and give him the money back then go your separate ways.

BangersAndGnash · 02/06/2025 13:57

OP, I think all you can do now if you want to save your marriage and house is to acknowledge to him that it got completely out of control and you realise how much of that is your responsibility, and you understand what it means that he had to sell his shares. Tell him how sorry you are.

But say that it was in pursuit of your life together and that is a life you would like to save. You realise that this has put a rift between you but you would like to try couples counselling to give you a safe and mediated space in which you can both discuss how you got here, how your teamwork was undermined and how you can regain mutual trust.

Tell him you will do all in your power to get your savings back on track.

It may or may not work, but what have you got to lose in trying?

BumpedmyElbow · 02/06/2025 13:57

@Skippydoodle I know I'm missing the point of the thread but I'd love to hear your budgeting/money saving tips. We're at the planning stage of a similar build with a similar budget and feeling daunted. Worried about the potential to overspend!

NotjustCo2 · 02/06/2025 13:50

Passa · 02/06/2025 07:24

I work but he earns much, much more than me and with the new mortgage payments and expenses, we won’t be in a position to save anything other than £200-£300 per month.

Ah I see, you got carried away spending his salary on stuff he didn’t want? I get shared money etc, but you’ve been Gram Grabbed!

ShodAndShadySenators · 02/06/2025 13:41

Your DH does sound a bit of a wet lettuce, allowing decisions to be made that he's not comfortable with. You seem to have done most of the pushing for extra spending that really needed a lot more consideration, and I can see why your DH is pissed off with you if that's the case. He needs to accept some responsibility here as he's either given in on decisions he wouldn't have wanted to say yes to, or he's been caught up in the madness of spending as well and now deeply regrets it.

You can see now what catastrophic errors you have made, starting with buying a house that you couldn't afford to spend willy-nilly on, then actually spending that money (particularly on things that won't add value to the house itself, excluding the kitchen) and cashing in investments. That was really really daft. Now you both need to sit down and thrash out a plan that works for you both, whether that's calling it a day marriage-wise and selling the house, or working through your differences and agreeing on compromises. I couldn't say what you should do, but I'll tell you this: I'd live in a shanty town hut with my DH than in a palace without him. Some things are too valuable to put a price on.

PlacidPenelope · 02/06/2025 13:40

Ripping our minging carpets - I know that so well😀Have done it a fair few times! @AnonymousBleep .

Ariela · 02/06/2025 13:40

It's done now.
So what is your plan to recover your savings situation?
Study and qualify to improve salary?
Get a better paying job?
Work more hours?
Cut costs somehow?

blubberyboo · 02/06/2025 13:39

Passa · 02/06/2025 09:02

He was the main earner and the house was right at the top of our budget. There is no way I could afford to take over the mortgage

It's not surprising that he has got overwhelmed and pissed off with it all. He has sunk all his savings and safety net into a house he didn't really want and presumably would have settled for less.

Now being the main breadwinner he has to deal with the stress of the stretching mortgage payments and trying to rebuild savings/ deal with any unexpected costs life throws at you. You should've stuck with a house that you could have equally contributed to. Not maxxed yourselves out against the higher wage.

steff13 · 02/06/2025 13:38

faerietales · 02/06/2025 08:32

I was just about the say something similar 🙈

Yeah the whole 'things she didn't know needed doing' - they're always going to find something else that "needs doing."

TesChique · 02/06/2025 13:37

how on earth do you misjudge renovation costs by 70% on what feel like decorative/cosmetic things easy to price?

I could understand if you unknowingly bought a back to brick but paint, flooring, tiling, wardrobes, beds and kitchen?

Jeez - if you've just been refusing to cut your cloth accordingly id be frustrated too.

Edit: A designer??????

what the fuck, no wonder he's done one. you've gone beserk with a pantone book and spent six figures!

AnonymousBleep · 02/06/2025 13:35

PlacidPenelope · 02/06/2025 13:21

They were in a care home, so the house was very dated and dirty.

Dated and dirty doesn't need designers and £100k plus spent on it.

In my experience of renovating/doing up houses my advice is to live in the house as it is (unless it is dangerous or completely run down and not fit for habitation) for a minimum of six months before starting any work that way you will see what the urgent priorities are and how best to change the house for your benefit.

Dirt can be cleaned.

Sort of agree - personally I'd paint it all white and rip out any minging carpets but unless it's structurally unsafe, most work can be done gradually if you're planning on living there and it's not a doer upper for a quick resale.

AnonymousBleep · 02/06/2025 13:33

YoshiIsCute · 02/06/2025 13:24

I wish people posting “I spent this amount and got all of this work done” would post when this was and where you are located. If it was 5+ years ago and you’re not in London (OP is), your costs are basically irrelevant here. It’s a known thing that building, decorating, or any trade costs especially in London have risen to ridiculous prices.

Fair point. I did my work over the last 3 years and am based 20 miles from London, in a fairly expensive part of the country.

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 13:28

Howmanycatsistoomany · 02/06/2025 13:24

I am a writer actually 😂

But what have I said that's untrue? Are you suggesting that the DH has no responsibility for this mess? That he didn't willingly agree to buy a house they couldn't really afford to buy and renovate? That he wasn't involved in employing or in any of the discussions with the designers? If the DH hasn't, at any point in the last few months, sat down and looked at costs vs budget and said, hang on, we can't afford this so the new wardrobes will have to wait a bit, then he's every bit as much to blame as OP.

OP said

I got carried away with the house and when designers came to visit they added extra I didn’t know we needed and it slowly went out of control.

it doesn’t look like joint decisions to me.

Wannabedisneyprincess · 02/06/2025 13:26

nutbrownhare15 · 02/06/2025 09:15

We bought a house that needs doing up but we are doing it slowly a room at a time.i don't think there's any need to spend so much straight away if the house is habitable. Based on what you say I wouldn't say that that would cost 60k. There are lots of opportunities to do up on a budget/buy second hand furniture which you can research with more time

We did this, yes the house was very dated but functional once we have deep cleaned it,

we had to strip all rooms inc the lat plaster and did it over 5 years

YoshiIsCute · 02/06/2025 13:24

I wish people posting “I spent this amount and got all of this work done” would post when this was and where you are located. If it was 5+ years ago and you’re not in London (OP is), your costs are basically irrelevant here. It’s a known thing that building, decorating, or any trade costs especially in London have risen to ridiculous prices.

Howmanycatsistoomany · 02/06/2025 13:24

BIossomtoes · 02/06/2025 13:07

They both decided to employ designers etc. and let the costs get out of hand, instead of doing one room at a time, as and when finds permitted. The DH chose to sell his ISA and employee shares to fund the work

You should be a novelist, you have a real gift for writing fiction.

I am a writer actually 😂

But what have I said that's untrue? Are you suggesting that the DH has no responsibility for this mess? That he didn't willingly agree to buy a house they couldn't really afford to buy and renovate? That he wasn't involved in employing or in any of the discussions with the designers? If the DH hasn't, at any point in the last few months, sat down and looked at costs vs budget and said, hang on, we can't afford this so the new wardrobes will have to wait a bit, then he's every bit as much to blame as OP.

Nottodaythankyou123 · 02/06/2025 13:23

Greeneyegirl · 02/06/2025 08:03

Do you need everything doing at once?! We bought an extremely dated house in 2020 and are still doing it up room by room. That's life, you do things gradually when you have the money, our kitchen was teeny and absolutely dated but it had an oven, cupboards etc so we lived with it for 3 years. We're still living with our second hand FB marketplace IKEA wardrobe now. It's a very millennials thing to buy a house and immediately feel the need to rip out everything and get it perfect right away (and I say that as a 33 year old millennial!)

I do think it depends to some extent on the type of renovation project - e.g dated and not very trendy or uninhabitable. We had an uninhabitable renovation (no working boiler / electrics / floorboards wrecked with damp etc). Living in it wasn’t an option as it just wasn’t fit for human habitation! If OP’s is similar I can see why she’s gone ahead, but given we’ve been talking about beds / wardrobes, I suspect not!

PlacidPenelope · 02/06/2025 13:21

They were in a care home, so the house was very dated and dirty.

Dated and dirty doesn't need designers and £100k plus spent on it.

In my experience of renovating/doing up houses my advice is to live in the house as it is (unless it is dangerous or completely run down and not fit for habitation) for a minimum of six months before starting any work that way you will see what the urgent priorities are and how best to change the house for your benefit.

Dirt can be cleaned.