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Do people only associate with others like themselves

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FedupofArsenalgame · 01/06/2025 16:50

After reading the 49 year old who was asked if she was a grandparent I noticed that many people state the don't know anyone in their " social circle" who would be. It's got me thinking whether people only keep social circles with the same " type" ?

For example all MC in professional jobs, or sahm etc etc etc

Thinking of a group of 6 of us women who socialize regularly we have a hairdresser, a barrister, a " lady who lunches" a delivery driver, payroll clerk and someone on disability benefits.

So completely different to each other. As far as kids are concerned 3 are child free, 2 have 3 adult children and grandchildren, and another has one adult child.

Seems we all get a varying view of others lives but is this unusual? Rather than sticking strictly to our own " type"

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Bigearringsbigsmile · 01/06/2025 18:25

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 18:19

They arent saying they are friends with everyone and have met them all.

And I didn't say that they did.
When op was asked how they met, she said they live invthe same town

SomersetBrie · 01/06/2025 18:23

Wishingplenty · 01/06/2025 18:05

I can't imagine people that are buying 1.3million pound homes are friends with the local Uber driver.

Depends on where they meet. You're not going to make friends in the cab, but might support same football team, might have kids in the same school, be on a darts teams together, enjoy mountain biking.
They might even have been to university together.

SpicedHerbalTea · 01/06/2025 18:22

I was pretty working class and went to university.

In fact, that in itself influenced which university I went to. Almost 30 years ago I visited one where there were tickets for a ball being advertised for £100 each. Almost solely on that basis, I chose not to go there, because I knew I couldn't fit in with that.

Did go to a good 'RG' uni though. And my social circle was VERY limited. I didn't have a ski chalet, I'd never done a year out or a ski season, hadn't gone to a school that anyone knew of, had never played sport at county level. I couldn't afford to go to the cool new nightclubs in town or join in with the expensive extracurriculars, my working class family didn't have any of the connections / knowledge / language and behaviours needed for me to be ready, willing and able to socialise with people outside of my own social class really. A lot of people thought that working in a supermarket every waking moment during the uni holidays, wearing supermaket clothes, and coming from where I did, was pretty dull and boring, and totally unaspirational.

When I came back to my hometown and had DC I didn't fit in then either. A lot of the parents at the school gate seemed interested literally only in football, tattoos, holidays, nails, and what expensive day out they were going to take their family on next. No adults were into hobbies other than drinking, any sports at all other than football, and women having an opinon on anything other than whether they were going to be able to get hold of the most desirable kits Christmas present that year was completely unheard of.

I eventually did find a group of people who had a bit more education, were a bit more ambitious for their kids, and had more interesting and varied lives themselves. And I took up a team sport too, and made great friends through that.

And I take friends as they find them - I don't collect people and score them on the diversity that they bring to my social circle!

JHound · 01/06/2025 18:21

Imcomingovertoyourplace · 01/06/2025 18:18

There’s logistical reasons too. People on council estates and on benefits wouldn’t be able to socialise in the same way that someone on 6 futures would. I noticed this when I had a mix of WC and MC friends, MC friends always wanted to meet up out in the fresh air and would usually buy a coffee and pastry, whilst my WC mates were much happier in their own houses or at mine. This could just be them though, and may not apply to all.

This is a big part of it. I would struggle to socialise with many of my friends I grew up with now. Even with my family I live a very different life to most of them.

ginasevern · 01/06/2025 18:21

I used to have a wide group of friends and mix with anyone but now I'm older I really can't be arsed with people who hold very different views to mine. For example, I really couldn't be bothered with someone that voted for Brexit or Reform or who thought that men can be women. But then, I'm old now. I just haven't got the energy to listen to or politely acknowledge their (in my view) fucking nonesense. I'd rather not spend my remaining years with raised blood pressure quite frankly.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 18:21

Todaysworldandbiscuits · 01/06/2025 18:13

Well said! Some outright ignorance on this thread. Apparently only affluent South of the country areas have predominantly women in their 30s, having dcs. 😂

Wonder what the percentage of their social circle is white? I’m guessing it’s 100%

DontTouchRoach · 01/06/2025 18:20

FedupofArsenalgame · 01/06/2025 17:58

Pubs.

Out of interest - is your town quite small? I only ask because I think in small towns and villages, you often get more mixed social groups because there are fewer places to congregate and fewer people to choose from, and you bump into the same people more often.

Whenever I travel to really tiny and isolated places, eg the smaller islands in the Western Isles or Orkney/Shetland, I always notice that you’ll see really young people barely out of their teens out for a pint with people in their 60s, which you don’t often see elsewhere.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 18:19

Bigearringsbigsmile · 01/06/2025 18:15

But how did you meet?
I live in the same town as thousands of people but I haven't met them all and made friends with them.
There is a piece of information missing!

They arent saying they are friends with everyone and have met them all.

Imcomingovertoyourplace · 01/06/2025 18:18

There’s logistical reasons too. People on council estates and on benefits wouldn’t be able to socialise in the same way that someone on 6 futures would. I noticed this when I had a mix of WC and MC friends, MC friends always wanted to meet up out in the fresh air and would usually buy a coffee and pastry, whilst my WC mates were much happier in their own houses or at mine. This could just be them though, and may not apply to all.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 18:17

JHound · 01/06/2025 18:11

They would?

I will take your word for it.

Look at the comments from the post op was talking about. Very snobby and classiest. So yes, they would be very surprised.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 01/06/2025 18:15

FedupofArsenalgame · 01/06/2025 17:02

Live in the same town.

But how did you meet?
I live in the same town as thousands of people but I haven't met them all and made friends with them.
There is a piece of information missing!

VibeCurator · 01/06/2025 18:14

It’s probably true. I don’t have a single friend who went to private school so a lot of MN seems like a whole other world. To me private school is a big deal and a marker that someone is very posh/privileged so it’s funny to see it discussed so casually.

Most of my friends are also similar age and point in life as me as well.

AuntMarch · 01/06/2025 18:13

Not at all. How boring that would be!

Todaysworldandbiscuits · 01/06/2025 18:13

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 18:01

You would be amazed at how many working class people go to university.

Well said! Some outright ignorance on this thread. Apparently only affluent South of the country areas have predominantly women in their 30s, having dcs. 😂

GeorgeSmiley1969 · 01/06/2025 18:12

I don't think you are being unreasonable per se but it is unusual (and probably a good thing) that you have such a mixed bag of friends

JHound · 01/06/2025 18:11

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 18:08

I’ll rephrase: middle class people would be amazed at how many working class people go to university.

They would?

I will take your word for it.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 01/06/2025 18:11

I have friends from: school, university, work and former jobs, kids at the same school, running club. All of those places are/ were fairly economically homogenous and so, with a few exceptions, are my friends. The one place that I go that is much more varied is church.

DontTouchRoach · 01/06/2025 18:09

Papyrophile · 01/06/2025 17:51

@Comedycook why on earth would you expect a barrister or a surgeon, a bin man and a carpet fitter to have anything in common? Bin man and carpet fitter are not (in my opinion) middle class roles.

That’s the point - barrister and bin man would represent a broad range of jobs and social class. Whereas ‘finance, public sector and charity’ are all very similar. @Comedycook wasn’t saying it’s common or easy for barristers and bin men to be mates, just that this would count as a broad range whereas the ones listed really don’t.

I think a lot of people like to tell themselves that they have a really broad social circle but mostly people don’t, not on any meaningful level anyway.

Often people have superficial passing connections with people very different from them, but not many people have a hugely diverse range of very close friends that they regularly socialise with, especially where class comes into it.

Obviously there are always exceptions though.

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 18:08

JHound · 01/06/2025 18:06

???

As I was one of them I would not be.

I mean my upbringing (working/underclass) and my life now (incredibly middle class) and my circle now and youth are very different.

So 49 year old grandmothers don’t shock me as much as others.

My mom was 18 when she had me and at school the “oldest” mom was one who started in her late 20s. Post uni and doing my accountancy practice all my colleagues were baffled by my parents being in their 40s

Edited

I’ll rephrase: middle class people would be amazed at how many working class people go to university.

JHound · 01/06/2025 18:06

Catinthereallysmallhat · 01/06/2025 18:01

You would be amazed at how many working class people go to university.

???

As I was one of them I would not be.

I mean my upbringing (working/underclass) and my life now (incredibly middle class) and my circle now and youth are very different.

So 49 year old grandmothers don’t shock me as much as others.

My mom was 18 when she had me and at school the “oldest” mom was one who started in her late 20s. Post uni and doing my accountancy practice all my colleagues were baffled by my parents being in their 40s

Wishingplenty · 01/06/2025 18:05

I can't imagine people that are buying 1.3million pound homes are friends with the local Uber driver.

WhatNoRaisins · 01/06/2025 18:05

It's not something that I set out to do but honestly yes, my friends do tend to be fairly similar to me. The only way any of my immediate friends are going to become 49 year old grandparents would be one of their kids becoming a teenage parent.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 01/06/2025 18:04

I don't have a big circle of friends, but yes, I tend to gravitate towards people I have quite a lot in common with. They don't necessarily have the same views about everything, so it's not really an eco chamber imo.

Imcomingovertoyourplace · 01/06/2025 18:04

I think about this too. My friends are all a messy group of fellow skint, single parents, some aren’t working, some are on benefits, some are ND and struggle with leaving the house or their MH.
What bonds us together is the constant firefighting and the feeling that we’re sort of always on the brink of meltdown.
My sister meanwhile seems to have all settled friends, none of them are single parents, their lives are all weddings, holidays and ‘making memories’. We had similar upbringings and education, so I’m curious about when our social circles changed so much.
I would feel completely overwhelmed amongst her friends and their lives are so different to mine. She would probably have a headache after spending a day with mine!

Aitchemarsey · 01/06/2025 18:03

All of my closest friends were met either at university, work (I'm a teacher), friends of friends, or NCT/ baby groups. So I think by its nature my friendship group definitely skews female and middle class...