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I just screamed 'Stop bullying my fucking kids' at my husband.

187 replies

thenoodlemachine · 31/05/2025 21:34

He was shouting at them and they were both crying. I lost it. I am feeling very fragile so please be nice.

OP posts:
Jellyrols · 02/06/2025 07:31

He sounds like a lazy bully and a house terrorist.

I sincerely hope your children tell another adult about him so they may get support.

He sounds absolutely abusive.
Who screams at crying children.

Much less a man screaming at 3 crying women.

I think you have tolerated far to much bullshit from him.

Can he go to family for a few days, so you and your daughters have space.

This is absolutely toxic and I find it very hard to believe it is a one off.

You ask for him to pull his weight, his response is to verbally abuse his children.

Absolutely shocking behaviour. I really hope you take it very seriously and protect those girls.

Endoftheroad12345 · 02/06/2025 03:43

Well you won’t keep badgering him to do his fair share of this is the impact it has on you and your kids, will you? This is how abusive men train you to shut up and comply with what they want.

He will “try” to do more “but it will be gradual”. Ffs. And who does it all while this grown man “learns” how to be an adult? You presumably.

Or the kids “I had been planning to get the kids to do that” - God forbid he cleans his own bathroom.

thenoodlemachine · 02/06/2025 02:53

Because I have been complaining about him not doing enough around the house and he says he is doing more and trying to get the kids to do more but it would be a gradual thing. Then I cleaned the bathrooms on my day off and he said he had been planning to get the kids to do that and I didn't want him to succeed. And then he heard me tell the kids to tidy their rooms the next day and got angry that he had to get up so that I didn't throw a wobbly. And that my attitude re the housework is affecting the family psychologically.

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thenoodlemachine · 02/06/2025 02:48

The thing is, the bedroom was tidy at this point. 12 year old was not refusing to tidy it. 17 year old came out and said 'Stop yelling at her! She's crying! Can't you see She's crying? And her room is tidy! It's tidied than it's been for months!' And I feel like dh was angry at me and taking it out on dd.

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thestudio · 01/06/2025 13:20

1SillySossij · 01/06/2025 12:25

I think what you did was a lot worse tbh

Then you are
insane
an apologist for male abuse

which is it?

Beesandhoney123 · 01/06/2025 12:56

Endoftheroad12345 · 31/05/2025 23:27

So things have only been horrible in the last few months since you got frustrated at the unequal division of labour and started challenging the status quo

Previously he presumably did fuck all around the house and was happy with that & is annoyed that he’s being asked to contribute more.

His version of “doing more” is to shout at the kids to tidy their rooms and then throw a strop that you “don’t want him to succeed”

He sounds like a lazy moody cunt and I can’t understand why you are feeling so terrible about your own behaviour. Good on you for standing up for your kids.

Edited

Agree with this tbh.
My dh thinks helping round the house more means nagging the kids to do it. Well he did until I told him to pack it in.

I also grew up round a lot of shouting. I also lose it and shout like a banshee. Not regularly and now I'm on my anti bonkers pills a lot calmer in myself.

But, I did tell dh to leave my kids alone once- and don't ask me to choose because you'll be disappointed. Neither of us drink BTW.

Go out for a walk, take the kids, with or without dh. Talk it through. Teach the kids how do deal with this sensibly. No blaming- no taking the blame yourself .

Good for your ds for sticking up fir his sister. You need to praise him for that. And your dh needs to apologise to you all, fir being a dick.

Feetinthegrass · 01/06/2025 12:43

thestudio · 01/06/2025 12:40

Jesus Christ I cannot believe the man-protecting on this thread. OP you are not deranged.

Your husband was bullying your child in order to attack you. He is angry that you are 'being critical' that he is prepared to exploit you in order to avoid doing his fair share of the domestic shit-work.

I'm sure he won't admit it but you must articulate it like that - do not take responsiblity for this.

You intervened in his shitty abusive behaviour in the only way that you could.

Fucking hell, no wonder women's position in our society is going backwards with so many of us policing on behalf of men.

I know, exactly, men minimising littering this entire thread. It’s not okay to scream and shout someone into a distressed state, it doesn’t matter how old or young they are. They were clearly frightened, that’s definitely not okay.

thestudio · 01/06/2025 12:40

Jesus Christ I cannot believe the man-protecting on this thread. OP you are not deranged.

Your husband was bullying your child in order to attack you. He is angry that you are 'being critical' that he is prepared to exploit you in order to avoid doing his fair share of the domestic shit-work.

I'm sure he won't admit it but you must articulate it like that - do not take responsiblity for this.

You intervened in his shitty abusive behaviour in the only way that you could.

Fucking hell, no wonder women's position in our society is going backwards with so many of us policing on behalf of men.

YourOnMute · 01/06/2025 12:37

I feel like I live in a parallel universe.
This woman was already chastising her daughter for not tidying her room (and sorry but given the myriad of issues I've encountered as a parent of teenagers pick your battles). Her husband, apparently having a rest, leaps up to start roaring at his 12 year old daughter. This is so awful that her 17 year sister comes yo her defence. He keeps shouting to the point where three females are in tears. This is absolutely awful, unnecessary and yes, bullying.
Why did he need to get involved?
Why did he start shouting at a 12 year old, and no, it's been filthy for a while is not a good reason to start shouting at your child suddenly.
Why did the older sister try to intervene?
I'm not surprised OP roared back at him.
I've been in that exact situation where I and my girls have been roared at by my "dp/oh" and the three of us ended up in tears. Because it's horrific and frightening. A man who likes to bully until his FAMILY are crying?
Mine is now my ex.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 01/06/2025 12:34

1SillySossij · 01/06/2025 12:17

Is OK to shout at your child, if they have been repeatedly been told to do something that is their responsibility and not done it, even if they turn on the waterworks.(It is different it is for no reason).
That is what will happen to them in the real world. They will be disciplined for disobedience and laziness. They need resilience.

Edited

I don't know what 'real world' you inhabit, but if I shouted at my staff until they cried I'd get sacked.

If I shouted at some random stranger I'd fully expect a punch in the face.

What's the bet OP's husband doesn't go out into the 'real world' and shout at his friends and colleagues until they cry. Just his daughters.

1SillySossij · 01/06/2025 12:25

I think what you did was a lot worse tbh

1SillySossij · 01/06/2025 12:17

Is OK to shout at your child, if they have been repeatedly been told to do something that is their responsibility and not done it, even if they turn on the waterworks.(It is different it is for no reason).
That is what will happen to them in the real world. They will be disciplined for disobedience and laziness. They need resilience.

TheaBrandt1 · 01/06/2025 12:11

Maybe it will make them tidy up their bloody rooms. Don’t think it’s a disaster for parents to occasionally flip out we are only human.

Totallytoti · 01/06/2025 11:47

You say their rooms are a disaster. At 12 and 17yo then it’s pathetic that it’s a disaster. I would be shouting at them too.

Boomer55 · 01/06/2025 11:44

Never2many · 31/05/2025 22:16

You know what, sometimes kids need to be shouted at. And teenagers have the ability to bring out the worst in us.

You say he shouted at DD over her bedroom, why? What state is it in? How many times has she been told to do something about it?

It’s easy to come on MN and say that someone else (generally a man) shouted at the kids and to immediately have everyone on-side and accuse him of being a bully. But the circumstances are important here.

If DD has been told time and time and time again to clean up her bedroom and hasn’t then sometimes shouting can be warranted.

And no, peri isn’t an excuse for screaming either although funny how women get a free pass because “peri”.

Absolutely. Teenagers can be real horrors. 😳

CareCover · 01/06/2025 11:43

*followed by a reasonable conversation

CareCover · 01/06/2025 11:42

Feetinthegrass · 01/06/2025 09:51

At seventeen no, she does not compliantly have to do exactly as she is told by her father.

At seventeen she can have her room exactly how she pleases. It is wholly unacceptable for him to then lose his temper and start lashing out at his children. They are allowed to have a view that is different from his! They are young adults not toddlers.

Edited

I thought it was the 12-year-old with the messy room!

That said, whether children live in their parents' home or share a house with others, they should be able to have their room the way they like but it still needs to be kept tidy and clean. It’s a matter of basic respect for the people they live with.

Let’s be honest most parents have probably ended up shouting at their teenage kids to clean their rooms after asking nicely ten times with no result. Sometimes, they do need a bit of a wake-up call to snap them out of their self-centred daze. No, shouting isn’t ideal but neither is letting a mess go unchecked.

We don't know if OP has problems with her husband. She needs to have a calm and grown up conversation and lay it all on table. Shouting should be avoided but it happens.

Not sure I understand the crying part, or what happened there. If Op's husband is abusive she will have noticed before surely.

Given OP’s abusive childhood background, it’s possible she may lean toward permissive parenting. It’s understandable past trauma can make some parents more passive, cautious, or hesitant to enforce boundaries. Still, overly permissive parenting isn’t ideal, as children need structure and guidance to thrive and teenagers need boundaries and yes they get yelled at sometimes. As long as that's allowed by a reasonable conversation and apology and mending things it's part of normal life. Never shouting sounds extremely weird and repressed to me. Only shouting is abusive. Sometimes shouting is human.

SadSandwich · 01/06/2025 11:27

It’s ok OP and actually this isn’t ur usual family life. Be kind to urself and use this as an opportunity to reset.

ProudCat · 01/06/2025 10:56

Hope you feel better today and you're getting the opportunity to talk through with your other half how unsafe you felt yesterday.

If not, therapy.

RebelMums · 01/06/2025 10:53

So been there... Sounds like a conversation needed with DH about how you want to parent together. If he can't have that convo (mine couldn't), you might want to think again.

Wearealldoingourbest · 01/06/2025 10:51

NotSmallButFunSize · 01/06/2025 09:02

FFS, a woman has snapped so it must be hormonal 🙄

Or maybe her DH was being an unreasonable dick?? Maybe HE'S hormonal?!

Sick of peri menopause being trotted out every time a woman has a fucking emotion

Wow that's rude and unnecessary. The OP said "I have never screamed at anyone in my life. We have been together 20 years. I feel like I need to be on antipsychotics or something." I didn't say her husband was in the right AND I didn't say her reaction was wrong - I suggested a reason she might be reacting more strongly than she has before. If she has teenage kids it is quite possible that hormones are having an effect. Lucky you if you've never felt out of control due to your hormones.

Jellyrols · 01/06/2025 10:32

OP, i feel so sorry for you.
You sound absolutely exhausted.
How dare he scream at 3 crying women.
What awful behaviour.

I think you need to start looking after yourself.

Lazy men often are angry at their partner for demanding they do more.

This is abusive. Have an honest think about your relationship.

He was very very wrong. Not you.

LittleGreenDragons · 01/06/2025 10:32

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 01/06/2025 00:52

OP once you've had a chance to catch some breaths and are feeling better, I really think you should carefully re-read this one and see if it resonates.

Because it does sound to me like you're being punished for asking more of him, and it's so subtle you haven't even realised and are instead blaming yourself.

Don't let anyone convince you this is just hormonal; your reaction might be but the situation isn't. There are bigger issues that need sorting out.

I'm adding my voice to both of these posts.

You (and by extension, the kids) are being punished for daring to ask him to pull his weight. Look up DARVO

Feetinthegrass · 01/06/2025 10:24

Hellohelga · 01/06/2025 10:10

I had a few melt downs in peri and was def more angry and less tolerant of mess and noise. Low dose of citalopram got me through. Think I would be divorced by now without it. Ask your doctor.

Edit to add not minimising DH yelling, but if you are calm you can diffuse not inflame difficult situations.

Edited

Why is it OP’s job to ‘diffuse’ her husband’s loss of self control exactly?

You are now suggesting she medicates to prevent her very natural instincts to protect her own children from an angry adult male bully?

I think I have honestly heard it all now.

Hellohelga · 01/06/2025 10:10

I had a few melt downs in peri and was def more angry and less tolerant of mess and noise. Low dose of citalopram got me through. Think I would be divorced by now without it. Ask your doctor.

Edit to add not minimising DH yelling, but if you are calm you can diffuse not inflame difficult situations.