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To think asking people if they have grandchildren is like asking if they are pregnant - just don't!

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Liesmorelies · 31/05/2025 20:38

I was talking to a colleague last week and she suddenly asked if I had grandchildren. I think she already knew I had children but not their ages - I don't know her well and we weren't discussing our children at the time.

It really took me aback and, I admit, offended me a bit. I'm 49 and have been told a few times I look younger. Not because I'm so attractive (I'm not!) but my skin is pretty good and no grey hair and, while I'm quite insecure about my looks, looking older than I am is not among them. Or wasn't. It is now.

I know you can have gc at 49 but it's quite unusual and no one where I work who is the same age as me has gc- all have dc around the same age as mine (late teens).

If someone was clearly in their 40s/50s but I wasn't sure of their age I just wouldn't ask it unless I knew for a fact they had adult dc, just like I wouldn't ask if someone was pregnant just because their figure suggested they might be!

It also makes me worry that she was being a bit snide, which is also an upsetting thought.

OP posts:
spoonbillstretford · 01/06/2025 11:30

OhNameHgcaher · 01/06/2025 10:28

It's really not common at all

Your world must be so small, how do you not know a variety of people who have had children at different ages? Literally hundreds of women have posted on this thread saying how common/normal it is.

No smaller than anyone else's and considerably larger than a lot of people's experience I would say. It's certainly not common in the social sphere I generally move in, is what I'm saying, and it would be a question which may cause offence.

Let's look at the stats. 20% of women in their late 40s in the UK don't have children at all. The most common age for women born in the mid 1970s to have children is 31. So most commonly, a woman aged 49 will have a 19 year old, as I do, and likely (by statistics not opinion) young adult offspring who aren't thinking about having kids yet.

So statistically speaking a lot don't have children at all, a lot have younger children (there has been an increase in the proportion of births at age 45+) and yes, there will be some who had kids younger and will be grandparents.

However, as quite a number won't be anywhere near being grandparents yet and many will never be grandparents, it's best not to ask the question.

haastrope · 01/06/2025 11:30

To think asking people if they have grandchildren is like asking if they are pregnant - just don't!

Goodness! Everything is offensive these days. No one cares about the intention or context. You can't talk to people now for fear of saying/asking the wrong thing. That's why online has become the go to for interaction. It's safer, ironically.

StonwEd · 01/06/2025 11:24

Squirrelblanket · 31/05/2025 21:31

I'm stunned that people think it would be normal for someone in their 40s too have grandchildren. It's really showing what kind of background you come from if that's normal. 😂

There are some really really nasty comments on here. I was 18 when I had my daughter (middle class family that really supported me) and she was 21 when she had hers. Not ideal but here we are. She’s just had her second at 27, married, own their own place and I have a very very good senior management role in an industry many would kill to get in to.
I’ve never been asked if I’m a granny but I’ll shout it from the roof tops as I’m so proud of me and my daughter and love those two little children as much as I love her.
Don’t judge people.

K0OLA1D · 01/06/2025 11:21

Wimbledonmum1985 · 01/06/2025 10:50

Very happy to be in a bubble if that is the case.

Yeah I think a lot on this thread are happy you're not in their bubble too

TempestTost · 01/06/2025 11:17

InsomniacSloth · 01/06/2025 03:09

I’m not your “love” and nor do I need to “calm down”. Who are you, David Cameron?

It’s irrelevant what people have posted. Of course a thread like this will attract people who can’t distinguish between their personal life story and statistics (or appropriate and inappropriate manners, it seems). Anecdotes from self-righteous angry people do not constitute statistics.

I referred to the statistical facts based on UK demographic data. In fact, actually the average first time mother in the UK is now 31, not 30 (I just double checked the stats and it’s risen from last time I looked at this data). So, on average (even accounting for the fact the average age of birth of first child has continued to rise in recent decades) it wouldn’t be reasonable to assume someone might be a grandmother until they are in their late-50s at least (and that would be if they were, for example, out on a trip with the first child of their first child).

As I said, statistically it is far, far more likely that a woman seen with a small child who is in their 40s is the mother than the grandmother. Being a grandmother in your 40s in the UK is a rarity these days (although there may well be more prevalence in some geographical areas/ social circles than others) and therefore to ask a complete stranger in their 40s if they are a grandmother is rude because it’s unlikely to be the case, and most grandmothers would be much, much older than that. These are statistical facts. And that’s aside from it being rude and intrusive and potentially insensitive to ask such personal questions to someone you’ve just met, anyway.

As is calling people dense because your personal experiences don’t happen to correlate to national statistical data, or accepted social norms in terms of polite conversation.

Edited

So, an average age of 30 does not mean that it is unusual to have mums in their 20s. That's not how averages work in these statistics which are calculating the standard average. You could theoretically have an average of age 30 without one single mum actually being 30 when she had her first child.

There are in fact quite a lot of women having kids in their mid to late 30s, so if the average age is 30 that suggests there are also quite a lot having them in their 20s.

Tourmalines · 01/06/2025 11:14

UniqueExpert · 01/06/2025 11:10

I don't think it's at all unusual to be a grandparent at 49.

Of course it isn’t . Heavens above !

UniqueExpert · 01/06/2025 11:10

I don't think it's at all unusual to be a grandparent at 49.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/06/2025 11:08

49 is the ONS, 2010. The figure of 63 is also the ons 2017. Amazingly it didn't rocket that far in those years. It's two different methods of collation and the latter excludes grandchildren who live with grandparents.

Namechangeagain8464 · 01/06/2025 11:03

BIossomtoes · 01/06/2025 10:09

And 49 according to AI. The ONS figure doesn’t include grandparents living in the same household.

Hmm, ONS or AI... 🤔

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/06/2025 10:53

Yes, fine, enjoy your bubble. Just try and employ a little grit if someone pops it with perfectly reasonable questions.

Wimbledonmum1985 · 01/06/2025 10:50

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/06/2025 09:45

The average age of becoming a grandparent in the UK is 49, according to government stats. If you are surrounded by people with infant school children at 49 and you think 49 is an outlandish age to be a grandparent, then you are in a bubble.

Very happy to be in a bubble if that is the case.

Wimbledonmum1985 · 01/06/2025 10:49

MiracleCures · 01/06/2025 09:30

Do you only ever "move in" a very narrow social circle? How dull. I have friends from every walk of life.

That’s ridiculous. I have friends from every walk of life but none of them include forty something grandparents. I don’t feel like I’m missing out on much to be honest. They’re just not part of my circle and I don’t see many of them around. I grew up in the US it was the same in my neighbourhood.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/06/2025 10:49

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/06/2025 10:43

Just say no 🤷‍♀️

But, what about the beautiful skin? Where's the outrage?

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/06/2025 10:43

Just say no 🤷‍♀️

Wimbledonmum1985 · 01/06/2025 10:43

I don’t blame you. I wouldn’t anticipate anyone in my circle being a grandmother till at least seventy.

Longingforspringtime · 01/06/2025 10:42

I was a grandmother at 50, 25 years ago today.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 01/06/2025 10:41

GauntJudy · 31/05/2025 21:12

I'd not ask someone if they had grandkids, much like I'd not ask a woman if she had kids. It can be painful for some people.

But if I did ask that type of thing it wouldn't cross my mind to ask a 48 year old if she was a granny. That seems young to me (cos my DC was at primary when I was 48)

There is such a range isn't there... Most of my 40something friends have kids in school... Often quite young kids...

But equally several parents of kids I was at school with were grannies before 40.

The youngest granny I worked with was 29🙄😱

Twinty2 · 01/06/2025 10:37

It’s quite normal to have grandchildren in your 40s, I know plenty who have including my mum.

MargaretThursday · 01/06/2025 10:35

I'm that age, and if dd had had her first same age as I was I'd have been a grandmother by now.

Although I suppose what you're thinking is that I tend to more get people saying I don't look old enough to have a 24yo dd. So it's perhaps more people saying you look your age, rather than the actual grandchildren. Personally I think I do look at least my age, so maybe people are just being polite. 🤣
Never thought of that. I'll ask the next person who says that. 🤣

OhNameHgcaher · 01/06/2025 10:32

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/06/2025 09:45

The average age of becoming a grandparent in the UK is 49, according to government stats. If you are surrounded by people with infant school children at 49 and you think 49 is an outlandish age to be a grandparent, then you are in a bubble.

I genuinely can't believe how narrow some people's lives are. How have they not met a range of women having babies at different ages?

My friends all range from 25 to 52 ( I'm 33 ) and their children range from 0 to 33. Some of us had babies in our 20's, others had babies in their 30's

AndCallMeNancy · 01/06/2025 10:28

I have a couple of friends who became a grandparent in her 30s but in my world most 40-somethings have school age children. YANBU op. I am 46 and if someone asked me if I was a granny I’d think they were really weird! Your colleague has crap social skills. If they were stuck for something to say they should’ve asked how old your kids were, how they were doing, blah blah blah.

BabyCat2020z · 01/06/2025 10:28

I'm 49 and if someone asked if I had grandchildren I would be offended too!!! I do have my head deeply in the sand about turning 50 soon, so maybe I am just not ready to be considered old enough for that!! I used to get told I looked 10 years younger, that seems to have tailed off recently 😳

OhNameHgcaher · 01/06/2025 10:28

spoonbillstretford · 01/06/2025 08:10

It's really not common at all.

I had DDs at 29 and 33- DDs are 19 and 16, I'm 49 now and most of their friends' parents are a few years older than me if anything. None of us would be impressed to be asked if we had grandkids. I also know lots of parents with small children in their 40s.

It's certainly not something I'd ask of someone in their 40s or 50s. Not even anyone older unless I was already pretty sure they did have grandkids and would like to be asked about them.

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It's really not common at all

Your world must be so small, how do you not know a variety of people who have had children at different ages? Literally hundreds of women have posted on this thread saying how common/normal it is.

StartingOverInMy40s · 01/06/2025 10:26

I had my two at 23 and 24 so by 49, my eldest will be 25 which doesn’t feel too young to be having children.

Shes 22 now with a good job, a nice home and a loving partner - the same as I was at her age when we decided to try for a baby.

I don’t see 49 as being super young to have a baby if I’m honest and I do know a few people who are.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 01/06/2025 10:24

BIossomtoes · 01/06/2025 10:09

And 49 according to AI. The ONS figure doesn’t include grandparents living in the same household.

It's a staggering difference. I wonder what proportion of people have children while living with their parents and if that proportion has risen in line with house inflation?