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9YOD Pubescent GC of neighbour running around with bra top & 'Booty shorts'

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Idratherreadabookthanks · 31/05/2025 18:24

I'm sorry for any errors, but am victim of abuse a child as wad DH, so probably a bit more sensitive to these things than others. For context: .We live in a gated community for over 60's. We love to share our neighbour's GC.

'Eve' has walked our dog for many years. She's taken her for a walk around the estate for about 4 years 'Eve' is now aged 9 over-weight. She's obviously a ' clever girl & doing well at school; But she's rather developed for her age.

This afternoon he appears wearing a bra top & 'bootie' shorts. which I thought tonally inappropriate for a child of her age. I told her that she should to go back to he G parent's house & get changed into something into a tee shirt rather than the bra top. She came back wearing on over-sized tee shirt which I felt more appropriate for someone of her age.

I then went to help a neighbour with her husband who has dementia & left DH to deal with 'Eve' .

GP have have since knocked on our door asking why we made their GC cover up. which was (they feel) was unacceptable. DH said we would never allow our Grand-daughters to go visiting neighbours half naked. He pointed out that, despite her young years, that 'Eve' is becoming a young woman now & they need to protect her.

Opinions please.

OP posts:
DontTouchRoach · 31/05/2025 20:49

SummerEve · 31/05/2025 20:33

Do you really think we should have no say over children’s clothing? Really?

Perfectly OK to have a say over your OWN child’s clothing. Absolutely fucking not OK to be policing the clothing of other people’s children.

DontTouchRoach · 31/05/2025 20:48

You and your DH are being really creepy about this. A nine-year-old is a ‘young woman’ in your eyes? You’re taking note of how her body is developing?

Also, you say this nine year old has been walking your dog for four years. Are you seriously saying you let a five-year-old take your dog for a walk on her own?

This whole post is weird and frankly a bit suspect.

anytipswelcome · 31/05/2025 20:47

Bigcat25 · 31/05/2025 20:46

You can wear a shirt over a training bra. I disagree that op or her spouse sexualized the child, they are trying to protect her from pedos doing that. They could have talked to the gps instead, but child sexual abuse is obviously horrific and should be prevented at all costs.

I'm not saying that skimpy clothes leads to abuse, but why would anyone make it easier to look at a kid in that way.

I think that saying a nine year old girl is ‘becoming a young woman’ is a sexualising statement.

Bigcat25 · 31/05/2025 20:46

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 31/05/2025 18:38

I have a 10yo and whilst she runs around in swimsuit, or bralet and knickers in our garden, I would not allow her to wear a crop top in public.

... but that's my decision as a parent. I also don't let her have a phone, drink juice, or have too much screentime, which lots on here would think nuts. I would never ever dream of saying something to a parent who WAS letting their child do these things.

OP plenty of young wear athleisure wear in the form of crop tops or sports bras. They are for training/ comfort and not sexualised. Honestly I think you have way overstepped.

You can wear a shirt over a training bra. I disagree that op or her spouse sexualized the child, they are trying to protect her from pedos doing that. They could have talked to the gps instead, but child sexual abuse is obviously horrific and should be prevented at all costs.

I'm not saying that skimpy clothes leads to abuse, but why would anyone make it easier to look at a kid in that way.

SummerEve · 31/05/2025 20:46

Sofiewoo · 31/05/2025 20:37

You think some random elderly couple who live in the same estate as a child’s grandparents should have a say over how a child dresses?
You can control your own children’s clothing, not the clothing of some child you aren’t even related to and seem to have some truly bizarre relationship with!
I mean who lets a child you barely know walk your dog for you at 5 years old??

I’m not talking about the OP and her husband.

Sofiewoo · 31/05/2025 20:37

SummerEve · 31/05/2025 20:33

Do you really think we should have no say over children’s clothing? Really?

You think some random elderly couple who live in the same estate as a child’s grandparents should have a say over how a child dresses?
You can control your own children’s clothing, not the clothing of some child you aren’t even related to and seem to have some truly bizarre relationship with!
I mean who lets a child you barely know walk your dog for you at 5 years old??

SummerEve · 31/05/2025 20:33

BusMumsHoliday · 31/05/2025 20:24

There's nothing protective about policing a child's clothing and to say that is pretty close to victim blaming. The logic is that certain clothing attracts predators and so you can keep yourself safe if you cover up (wishful thinking, sadly).

I can't find a way to make the statement that the outfit is not appropriate because she's "becoming a young woman" (whereas it would be ok if she was a less developed/slimmer 9 yo?) sexualising a child.

Also this girl was walking a dog alone around the estate since she was 5? Did I read that right?

Do you really think we should have no say over children’s clothing? Really?

Sayithowiseeit · 31/05/2025 20:31

You mention she was overweight and that you felt it was appropriate for her to wear an oversized t-shirt. Why does she need to hide in baggy clothes?

Hollietree · 31/05/2025 20:26

Bourbonversuscustardcream · 31/05/2025 20:13

Gosh, it’s almost like different people have different tastes, standards of modesty in public and dress sense.

And I don’t think I used the word inappropriate either - why are you so determined to take offence to things in my posts that just aren’t there?

Edited

I never said I took any offence to your posts or your opinions.

Not intending to be goady or argumentative. Apologise if that’s how it came across.

Honestly asking why someone would think it’s not okay to show a stomach in public? I don’t understand what is wrong with a stomach. Or why anyone would think it’s not acceptable to be seen in public.

Would be genuinely interested to understand someone’s viewpoint that seems the opposite to my own viewpoint.

BusMumsHoliday · 31/05/2025 20:24

There's nothing protective about policing a child's clothing and to say that is pretty close to victim blaming. The logic is that certain clothing attracts predators and so you can keep yourself safe if you cover up (wishful thinking, sadly).

I can't find a way to make the statement that the outfit is not appropriate because she's "becoming a young woman" (whereas it would be ok if she was a less developed/slimmer 9 yo?) sexualising a child.

Also this girl was walking a dog alone around the estate since she was 5? Did I read that right?

Bourbonversuscustardcream · 31/05/2025 20:13

Hollietree · 31/05/2025 20:00

Im honestly just baffled by why anyone who thinks there is anything inappropriate about a stomach and lower back on show. On a child or an adult.

Nipples on show - obviously inappropriate. Genitals - obviously innapropriate. But I just am totally confused about what is inappropriate about someone showing their stomach 🤷🏼‍♀️.

Gosh, it’s almost like different people have different tastes, standards of modesty in public and dress sense.

And I don’t think I used the word inappropriate either - why are you so determined to take offence to things in my posts that just aren’t there?

justusandthecat · 31/05/2025 20:09

Sofiewoo · 31/05/2025 19:35

The biggest risk here is not the belly top, it’s being left in the home alone with a random old man who is just the neighbour of her grandparents.
Do the parents even know?? Have they actually okayed her being left alone in this man’s home??

This is what I came to say. If I found out my parents/in laws had allowed my kids to end up alone in a house with some random bloke who happened to live nearby it would be the last time they saw them without supervision from me or my partner.

SummerEve · 31/05/2025 20:02

SpidersAreShitheads · 31/05/2025 19:55

It’s quite different though really.

I completely take your point that there’s inappropriate clothing out there but I’m not sure that shorts really fit into the same category.

I don’t like to see adult-type clothing on little girls but when I was little in the 1970s we all wandered around with tiny shorts on. I’m not sure they’re the sexualised clothing that OP claims.

If we move away from the shorts for just a minute, I think it’s highly relevant that I have posted a pic discussing a previous campaign by this very chat forum discussing the problem of children wearing inappropriate, sexualised clothing.

Some of the people posting on here need to move away from their position that everyone should be able to do exactly what they want whenever they want and look at the bigger picture and the world we live in.

Skirridfawr · 31/05/2025 20:00

Foxesandsquirrels · 31/05/2025 19:34

Omg are you seriously going to argue about semantics? I just imagined a 9 year old child walking around looking for something to do. It's not really the point is it.

I've never considered "prancing about" to have the same meaning and implication to "walking around looking for something to do". I'd say appropriate use of language is key in this situation, but if you think those two phrases mean the same thing then righto.

Hollietree · 31/05/2025 20:00

Bourbonversuscustardcream · 31/05/2025 19:37

Where on earth in my post did I say it was offensive or provocative?! I prefer my children, boy and girl, to wear something that covers their torso unless they’re swimming - I personally wouldn’t go out exposing my midriff in public so I apply the same to them. I don’t think that’s a terribly unusual position to take and I’m not sure why if you’re so confident in your choices you’re so offended by mine.

Im honestly just baffled by why anyone who thinks there is anything inappropriate about a stomach and lower back on show. On a child or an adult.

Nipples on show - obviously inappropriate. Genitals - obviously innapropriate. But I just am totally confused about what is inappropriate about someone showing their stomach 🤷🏼‍♀️.

Zebedee999 · 31/05/2025 20:00

SummerEve · 31/05/2025 18:33

I’m with you OP. I am sure I will be flamed, but in my view, children shouldn’t be wearing booty shorts, bikini’s, bra tops or any of those things.

I agree.

At my daughter's school a parent let her 9 yod wear a thong at school. Not appropriate in my opinion.

Sofiewoo · 31/05/2025 19:57

Hollietree · 31/05/2025 19:53

I presume we’re talking about something like this?

How can anyone think this is inappropriate for a child. I wore this in the 80s. My children wear it now. Anyone who thinks this is inappropriate for a child is a sicko.

I agree this could very much be the sort of thing the OP is describing and a 9 year old in this is nothing like an adult woman wearing “booty shorts” and a bra.

Sofiewoo · 31/05/2025 19:55

Again, I would love to know if the OP explicitly had permission from this child’s parents before leaving her alone with a man, all the while being concerned about other predators.

Shocking behaviour all around.

Never mind leaving her DH “to deal with Evie”. I mean what on earth!! Who in their right mind things this man has any place “dealing with” someone else’s granddaughter over her clothing!?

SpidersAreShitheads · 31/05/2025 19:55

SummerEve · 31/05/2025 19:23

You are right, it’s not booty shorts. It’s highly relevant though.

It’s quite different though really.

I completely take your point that there’s inappropriate clothing out there but I’m not sure that shorts really fit into the same category.

I don’t like to see adult-type clothing on little girls but when I was little in the 1970s we all wandered around with tiny shorts on. I’m not sure they’re the sexualised clothing that OP claims.

Hollietree · 31/05/2025 19:53

I presume we’re talking about something like this?

How can anyone think this is inappropriate for a child. I wore this in the 80s. My children wear it now. Anyone who thinks this is inappropriate for a child is a sicko.

9YOD Pubescent GC of neighbour running around with bra top & 'Booty shorts'
anytipswelcome · 31/05/2025 19:51

Sofiewoo · 31/05/2025 19:45

Any man who sees a 9 year old child as a “young woman” should not be left alone with a child in any circumstances.

Very much this. Such a disturbing turn of phrase.

Needspaceforlego · 31/05/2025 19:50

Op sorry but you were bang out of order.
Her parents presumably purchased the clothes therefore they approve of the clothes.

It's not your place to comment if you approve or you don't. Her weight and academic progress have nothing to do with it.

She wants to be fashionable and wear the same type of clothing as her friends.

Foxesandsquirrels · 31/05/2025 19:49

Fargo79 · 31/05/2025 19:42

I don't agree with OP's decision to insert herself into decisions around what somebody else's child wears. However the number of people on here who are aggressively arguing that there's no such thing as an inappropriate outfit for a little girl is disturbing (although when challenged and asked if this extends to stockings and suspenders, suddenly that's "different", therefore implying that actually there might be such a thing as an inappropriate outfit for a child 🙄). Everybody knows that some outfits are sexualised. I hope that everyone would, in reality, think it was a massive safeguarding issue and wildly inappropriate for a parent to dress their 9 year old daughter in a skin tight mini dress and 5" perspex heels. Acknowledging that this is an inappropriate, overly sexualised outfit does not imply that the person holding that view is sexualising the child. And although it's less extreme, booty shorts (which to me means extremely short hot pants with butt cheeks visible or very nearly visible) and a bra is also sexualised clothing which is not appropriate for a young child to wear.
It's really, really creepy and so nasty when people try to shut down opinions of people who are seeking to protect girls by using the DARVO tactic of accusing that person of being a paedophile. Especially when the person being accused is themselves a survivor of CSA. Such an awful thing to do.

Anytime a thread like this pops up, I'm reminded how clueless the general public is about safeguarding and how ignorant they are of the pervasiveness of abuse and how easily it is missed. Predators profile victims, that has always been the case and this little girl sounds vulnerable. Not just her outfit, but the environment she's being left unsupervised in.
OPs request wasn't perfectly executed, but I don't think it came from a bad place. And shops should be fined for the things they are selling targeting little girls. The boys section has no booty shorts or belly tops, they get to have massive pockets they can fill with trinkets and keep their legs protected from the sun. I wonder why girls don't get that privilege 🙄

IveGotAnUnusuallyLargePelvisISwear · 31/05/2025 19:48

'Eve' is now aged 9 over-weight. She's obviously a ' clever girl & doing well at school; But she's rather developed for her age.

If ‘Eve’ wasn’t overweight or rather developed for her age, would the crop top and booty shorts bother you? Because why comment otherwise about her looks? It’s not up to you to tell this little girl how to dress, that’s on her caregivers.

Thegreatescape12345 · 31/05/2025 19:48

I had this once. My eldest who was 2 or 3 at the time wore a Disney Ariel themed bikini (frilly, big picture of Ariel on) to a children's swimming pool in a holiday park. I put her in a 2 piece because she was potty training. She had picked it herself and was excited about wearing it. DH overheard some other mum at the swimming pool saying it sexualised her! Wtf.
I get that it may seem inappropriate, but if the child is confident in it then it's up to them and their parents what they wear. I bring my girls up to wear what they feel confident in (even if I cringe at what they choose to wear a lot!) and I tell them if they like it then that's all that matters. I teach them about body safety in an age appropriate way, which I think is better than telling them not to dress a certain way.

I think having an opinion on it is fine, but you massively overstepped by telling her to cover up.

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