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9YOD Pubescent GC of neighbour running around with bra top & 'Booty shorts'

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Idratherreadabookthanks · 31/05/2025 18:24

I'm sorry for any errors, but am victim of abuse a child as wad DH, so probably a bit more sensitive to these things than others. For context: .We live in a gated community for over 60's. We love to share our neighbour's GC.

'Eve' has walked our dog for many years. She's taken her for a walk around the estate for about 4 years 'Eve' is now aged 9 over-weight. She's obviously a ' clever girl & doing well at school; But she's rather developed for her age.

This afternoon he appears wearing a bra top & 'bootie' shorts. which I thought tonally inappropriate for a child of her age. I told her that she should to go back to he G parent's house & get changed into something into a tee shirt rather than the bra top. She came back wearing on over-sized tee shirt which I felt more appropriate for someone of her age.

I then went to help a neighbour with her husband who has dementia & left DH to deal with 'Eve' .

GP have have since knocked on our door asking why we made their GC cover up. which was (they feel) was unacceptable. DH said we would never allow our Grand-daughters to go visiting neighbours half naked. He pointed out that, despite her young years, that 'Eve' is becoming a young woman now & they need to protect her.

Opinions please.

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FreezeDriedStrawberries · 05/06/2025 00:22

Over40Overdating · 04/06/2025 20:41

@Foxesandsquirrels don’t you think it’s curious OP’s ‘update’ with all the gory detail only came about when she and her creepy husband had been called out for being extremely inappropriate about a 9 year old child.
This thread was started not out of concern for the child’s home environment, it was started to get validation for body shaming and sexualising a 9 year old girl.

MASH might be interested in why OP left a child alone with her husband who proceeded to talk about a 9 year old’s body and referred to her as a young woman. OP is very far from a lovely person.

Yes, I thought that. One hell of a drip feed.
OP and the DH are both giving off creepy, uncomfortable vibes.

Needspaceforlego · 05/06/2025 00:01

It doesn't matter what other people think of her outfit. Her family must have purchased it. She didn't get it without their knowledge.

Op and Husband have zero right to comment on what she is wearing.

TempestTost · 04/06/2025 23:44

Illegally18 · 04/06/2025 23:35

i have to agree. Are the bootie shorts the bum scruncher thingies but shorter?

They are very similar to hotpants, but post-spandex era.

TempestTost · 04/06/2025 23:44

Over40Overdating · 31/05/2025 18:39

You are the ones projecting sexual connotations onto a very young child’s clothing. The fact you had to include detail on her weight is very telling.

You should be deeply ashamed of yourselves and I hope her grandparents keep her far away from you both.

No it isn't. Those are items of clothing that have been designed to highlight the secondary sexual attributes of adult women. Which is why you get pop stars and such wearing them.

Those connotations aren't lost because they are being worn by a prepubescent child, that's why pimps will to dress up very young girls to overly sexualize them.

Heavier girls do typically begin to develop a little younger as well, so the whole effect it to highlight that the child is going into puberty. Not to mention that her parents possibly have poor boundaries.

Illegally18 · 04/06/2025 23:35

SummerEve · 31/05/2025 18:33

I’m with you OP. I am sure I will be flamed, but in my view, children shouldn’t be wearing booty shorts, bikini’s, bra tops or any of those things.

i have to agree. Are the bootie shorts the bum scruncher thingies but shorter?

Foxesandsquirrels · 04/06/2025 23:27

Over40Overdating · 04/06/2025 20:41

@Foxesandsquirrels don’t you think it’s curious OP’s ‘update’ with all the gory detail only came about when she and her creepy husband had been called out for being extremely inappropriate about a 9 year old child.
This thread was started not out of concern for the child’s home environment, it was started to get validation for body shaming and sexualising a 9 year old girl.

MASH might be interested in why OP left a child alone with her husband who proceeded to talk about a 9 year old’s body and referred to her as a young woman. OP is very far from a lovely person.

Honestly, this is the internet, you have no clue who OP is and whether they're lovely or not and tbh I really don't care if they are or aren't. I don't know who is lying online. I can only respond to what's in front of me and based on what OP has written, in my opinion, MASH should at the very least be contacted for advice. There is no such thing as wasting their time, MASH can decide what's for them to deal with, not random people online.

Stompythedinosaur · 04/06/2025 23:01

I'm actually flabbergasted. You told a neighbour's child to get changed because you didn't approve of their outfit, and you can't see how that's a massive overstep of boundaries?

Poor kid! It must have been really hurtful for her!

I think she is a young kid dressing for hot weather. Even if it isn't the choice you'd make for your own dc, you had absolutely no right to comment. Would you have been less judgemental if she wasn't overweight? Why does it matter?

Sofiewoo · 04/06/2025 22:20

Regretfully, if we wear the 'wrong' clothes it's our fault that we get raped, assaulted.

This is a horrific thing to say in all circumstances but particularly when you are discussing a 9 year old CHILD and your husband’s inability to view her as a little girl and insistence on calling her a “young woman”.

The red flag here is you and your DH.

Stop leaving a poor child alone with this man, her parents, her grandparents haven’t consented to this.

CanadaNotAMum · 04/06/2025 21:15

“Regretfully, if we wear the 'wrong' clothes it's our fault that we get raped, assaulted“

No it’s not @Idratherreadabookthanks . This kind of thinking is part of the problem, not the solution.

It’s horrible what happened to you and it wasn’t your fault. You probably weren’t wearing booty shorts, but he did it anyway because they don’t care about the clothes. Changing clothing doesn’t do anything to protect a child from a predator, all it does is cause shame and insecurity. Predators love insecure kids. We should not feed that insecurity.n

Over40Overdating · 04/06/2025 20:41

@Foxesandsquirrels don’t you think it’s curious OP’s ‘update’ with all the gory detail only came about when she and her creepy husband had been called out for being extremely inappropriate about a 9 year old child.
This thread was started not out of concern for the child’s home environment, it was started to get validation for body shaming and sexualising a 9 year old girl.

MASH might be interested in why OP left a child alone with her husband who proceeded to talk about a 9 year old’s body and referred to her as a young woman. OP is very far from a lovely person.

Foxesandsquirrels · 04/06/2025 16:48

Orangesandlemons82 · 04/06/2025 16:33

@Foxesandsquirrels there is nothing to suggest this child is at risk. The only risk is to her self esteem being policed and judged by relatives neighbours.

Please read the OPs last update. If you don't think there's risk, that's your opinion which you're allowed to have.

Orangesandlemons82 · 04/06/2025 16:33

@Foxesandsquirrels there is nothing to suggest this child is at risk. The only risk is to her self esteem being policed and judged by relatives neighbours.

Foxesandsquirrels · 04/06/2025 16:30

Orangesandlemons82 · 04/06/2025 15:05

What?! MASH etc will not be interested in the slightest!!

I would let them decide that themselves. You don't know how much OP is omitting for privacy, and it's important OP covers herself too. If your MASH wouldn't be interested in a young child regularly being left on their doorstep unsupervised, than you need to make a complaint about your MASH.
MASH is not just for emergencies. I think people forget the scope of social care.

Needspaceforlego · 04/06/2025 15:53

@Foxesandsquirrels there is nothing to suggest this little girl is in any way at risk. Or is in need of social services or for someone to police her choice of fashion.

Orangesandlemons82 · 04/06/2025 15:05

Foxesandsquirrels · 04/06/2025 14:37

@Idratherreadabookthanks you are a lovely person OP and I'm so sorry for what you went though. I completely understand your worries. Please, google your local authority and MASH- this will be the safeguarding team. You can explain the situation to them, and they can investigate. Don't worry about her being taken into care, that would not happen, the threshold for that is huge and she has a safe space to stay, but it sounds like this family needs support from social care- possibly both adult and children's. Social care early help team can signpost mum to charities that help overwhelmed mothers, my sister had a lovely lady coming every week after she had her twins.
This girl could also get a mentor, there's a lot out there. Social care is not all bad and you also need to safeguard yourself. Kids do and say all sorts for attention, never ever allow her to be alone with you or your husband. I completely understand your survivors instincts will be going crazy, but you need to safeguard yourself and your husband.
If there's no intervention now, I'm really worried something will happen to this child, even in a couple of years, she will be incredibly easy to lure with attention.
If you know where she goes to school, you can tell MASH and they will investigate via them, so you can keep your report completely anonymous.

What?! MASH etc will not be interested in the slightest!!

Foxesandsquirrels · 04/06/2025 14:37

@Idratherreadabookthanks you are a lovely person OP and I'm so sorry for what you went though. I completely understand your worries. Please, google your local authority and MASH- this will be the safeguarding team. You can explain the situation to them, and they can investigate. Don't worry about her being taken into care, that would not happen, the threshold for that is huge and she has a safe space to stay, but it sounds like this family needs support from social care- possibly both adult and children's. Social care early help team can signpost mum to charities that help overwhelmed mothers, my sister had a lovely lady coming every week after she had her twins.
This girl could also get a mentor, there's a lot out there. Social care is not all bad and you also need to safeguard yourself. Kids do and say all sorts for attention, never ever allow her to be alone with you or your husband. I completely understand your survivors instincts will be going crazy, but you need to safeguard yourself and your husband.
If there's no intervention now, I'm really worried something will happen to this child, even in a couple of years, she will be incredibly easy to lure with attention.
If you know where she goes to school, you can tell MASH and they will investigate via them, so you can keep your report completely anonymous.

FatimaBiriyani · 03/06/2025 09:04

anytipswelcome · 02/06/2025 19:02

Do you think it was appropriate for OP’s husband to describe a 9 year old girl’s age as ‘becoming a woman’?

Oh god. I missed that. Wtf

Idratherreadabookthanks · 02/06/2025 20:24

SummerEve · 02/06/2025 16:18

Yes, it’s a huge problem. What we don’t need to do is compromise our own safety further though. I should be able to walk through the park blind drink at 3am, doesn’t mean I would though. The same applies to all sorts of other things, it’s just common sense.

You are so right - we women should be able to walk down the street naked. Regretfully, if we wear the 'wrong' clothes it's our fault that we get raped, assaulted.

I was 11 when I was raped. What was my crime? I'd been put in my rapist's bed because there was an adult's party (we're talking 1973) several children there & we were put to bed by our parents in the place designated by the host - which, for me, happened to be his bed.

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Idratherreadabookthanks · 02/06/2025 20:05

Sofiewoo · 02/06/2025 05:52

You should not be encouraging a 9 year old child to be visiting you and your husband unaccompanied if your concern is protecting her.
She’s in the area to visit her grandparents, not you, certainly not your husband alone.

I'm probably oversensitive about SA since both of us have suffered it. DH at school, me at home. We would never have allowed our DD to wear that kind of clothing & she won't allow our GC to either.

This little girl (call her Susan) spends most weekends at her Grandparent's house because her mother has a new partner, has another small child, is PG & can't cope. Grandparents frequently drop her off & leave her alone in the house while they go to supermarket. Why they couldn't do their shopping at another time I have no idea. DH & me see her locked out, sitting on the doorstep, feel sorry for her & invite her over to our's, feed her, talk to her etc.

I get on with Grandparents & kindly spoke to them saying that 'Susan' was locked out & that we took her to our's, fed her etc. No reaction, no thank you which kind of pissed me off. They've now started dropping her off at our's leaving her to knock on our door saying that they've had to go to the supermarket & can she be with us, I understand that grandfather (aged 82) has dementia, grandmother cares for him &, frankly is totally exhausted.

To conclude this thread: DH & me have told her Grandparents that we can't guarantee that we will around much at weekends in the future & they need to find another option for taking care of Susan. We've also <very nicely> suggested that they do their weekly shop at a time when Susan isn't with them. I've even offered to arrange an internet delivery for them (obviously one paid by them not me).

Thank you to everyone who has given their opinions - all noted.

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anytipswelcome · 02/06/2025 19:02

FatimaBiriyani · 02/06/2025 16:40

@Idratherreadabookthanks YANBU OP. Completely inappropriately, especially for a 9 year old.

I have a bias due to my religion but I've encouraged modest clothing for all my children. Even from a young age.

Do you think it was appropriate for OP’s husband to describe a 9 year old girl’s age as ‘becoming a woman’?

FatimaBiriyani · 02/06/2025 16:40

@Idratherreadabookthanks YANBU OP. Completely inappropriately, especially for a 9 year old.

I have a bias due to my religion but I've encouraged modest clothing for all my children. Even from a young age.

MyLimeGuide · 02/06/2025 16:24

You are absolutely right that a 9 year old shouldn't dress like that, sadly its all the shops seem to sell, my sister has an 8 year old and she rages about the slutty fashion of today for female kids. But, im afraid its not your place to say.

MissDoubleU · 02/06/2025 16:21

sounds like you’re sexualise a young child. Very odd behaviour. Maybe you should stop looking at this child for their own protection.

SummerEve · 02/06/2025 16:18

Yes, it’s a huge problem. What we don’t need to do is compromise our own safety further though. I should be able to walk through the park blind drink at 3am, doesn’t mean I would though. The same applies to all sorts of other things, it’s just common sense.

Over40Overdating · 02/06/2025 12:13

@SummerEve @Fargo79 what about groomers who rather than relying on hoary old tropes about what predators do, present as pillars of the community?
People who gain access through things like social activities - walking dogs, or playing chess for example.

People who, without a relative of the child there, cross lines into personal issues like clothing or bodies or a grown man who, when left a child alone with a 9 year old prepubescent child, talks about her body and refers to her as ‘a young woman’.

A child who is taught to feel shame about her body by people who ‘care’ for her, would be prime targeting for grooming, I would say.