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Loud parenting in public spaces

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76born · 30/05/2025 12:56

AIBU to say that even as a parent of two, I find loud parenting and following this, loud children really bloody annoying.
Two examples this week which have had me furious 😡 (I’m obviously bored and need to get a life)
Example one, sat in a cafe now enjoying a cup of tea whilst my two build Lego (it’s a Lego cafe) and one parent is commenting on her child’s building skills, eg “oh wow Timothy, great building of a really high tower Timothy, look jacasta, look how high Timothy’s tower is” (names changed). Now dad joins in. His I’m really mean..
Example two, walking home from school last week when a young g child of about two being pushed in a pushchair mumbled and pointed at something. Mum, in the loudest, poshest voice ever, “yes darling, that black Range Rover is like the one found at grampy’s house”.
i am perimenopause, I get the rage at minor things and just would enjoy your thoughts and of course, examples, to add to this thread.
I thank you

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Radishy · 31/05/2025 19:58

What an incredibly judgmental thread this is. As someone from, and in, a loud household we all tend to have voices which are louder than average. I am sure when I’m talking to my child people can hear me, and that’s OK because

  1. we’re in a public place
  2. toddlers are unpredictable movers and sometimes commentary on their whereabouts and actions are necessary to inform others around us
  3. people are really bloody judgmental and sometimes you do say things loudly to let people know you’re on it (the amount of people that think my toddler is going to bang his head on everything and let out an audible gasp is tremendous, but I don’t mind because hey, they care about him)

just let people get on with their lives and stop judging/ caring - it’s more on those of you who it gets under the skin of, there must be more to think about!

Pleaseenter · 31/05/2025 16:44

bruffin · 31/05/2025 16:36

Its not about praising a kid for his lego. Its about making sure everyone else is listening to what a wonderful parent you are.

Either way why does anyone care? If you really think they're doing it just to be performative why can't you just block it out? If it was someone shouting, swearing in front of your child fair enough but other than that other people talking is just background noise to the world we live in. Who gives a shit.

I say all this as a quiet person who doesn't talk loud at all so not feeling personally attacked also I'm the furthest thing from being posh but someone said it's especially annoying if it's with a posh accent? Which just reeks of jealousy and bitterness

Yazoop · 31/05/2025 16:40

bruffin · 31/05/2025 16:36

Its not about praising a kid for his lego. Its about making sure everyone else is listening to what a wonderful parent you are.

There isn’t anything to demonstrate or prove that’s what the mum was doing or intending… if anything it could just be that the op is easily annoyed and made it about her. Performative judging, if you will!

DangerousAlchemy · 31/05/2025 16:38

alwaystimeforteatime · 30/05/2025 13:31

Sitting in cafe having a nice quiet coffee. Woman comes in with a 5 year old and immediately started with the most ridiculous performative parenting I’ve ever had the misfortune to witness…

looking a drawing of flowers her 5 year old had done “oh I can see you were influenced by Georgia O’Keefe in the expression of the flowers. Should we explore more Georgia O’Keefe works darling?” 🙄

then there was much - very loud - talk of long division.

meanwhile her 5 year old was throwing a tantrum because she finished her babyccino.

Hilarious! A new episode of Amandaland maybe? 🤣

bruffin · 31/05/2025 16:36

Yazoop · 31/05/2025 16:33

People just want to judge for anything these days. Looking at your phone while with the kids? What a shit parent! Engaging your kids? Too loud and, of course, must be for show!

chuffing hell… going onto a forum to complain that a mum praised their son for building a Lego tower. What is that all about?!

Its not about praising a kid for his lego. Its about making sure everyone else is listening to what a wonderful parent you are.

Yazoop · 31/05/2025 16:33

People just want to judge for anything these days. Looking at your phone while with the kids? What a shit parent! Engaging your kids? Too loud and, of course, must be for show!

chuffing hell… going onto a forum to complain that a mum praised their son for building a Lego tower. What is that all about?!

Pleaseenter · 31/05/2025 16:15

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 31/05/2025 16:06

I think this is the issue. I work with people like this. It smacks of entitlement - “my voice is so important”. Not to do with being a parent. Just being an entitled nobber who loves to shout (kids or no kids).

Sorry but what even is this thread? Who gives a shit about people talking loudly in public/to their kids etc as long as they're not swearing/talking inappropriate in front of kids who gives a shit? We share the world with other people it's not healthy to get this worked up over nothing. Sorry peaceandquietand a cuppa I'm more responding to the poster you quoted not you just couldn't be bothered to scroll through and find their comment.

But "especially the posh ones" just sounds bitter, jealous and resentful to me, what someone deserves extra vitriol just because they talk like they have more money than you? 😂

sludgefactory · 31/05/2025 16:13

PerfectPennyKilledMyHusband · 30/05/2025 16:02

I'm not really a confident mum. I'm getting better but I always worry I'm not doing a good enough job.

I try not to even look at my phone if I'm out in public with my little girl incase people judge me for not interacting with her enough. Now apparently I have to worry if I interact with her too much as well.

What an utterly depressing, bitchy thread. Some women really will drag other women down for anything.

Couldn’t agree more with this. Parenting is hard enough without worrying you’re being judged for interacting with your own child in public. Very sad thread this is.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 31/05/2025 16:12

Fargo79 · 31/05/2025 15:43

It's not nice to feel judged but honestly, imagine what an unhappy, inadequate person you would have to be to look at parents (mums, in most of the examples given) interacting with their kids, trying to engage with them or teach them stuff, and to be silently seething or "raging" as per the OP because you think they're a bit loud.

You sound like a great mum. Anyone who is going to judge you for talking to your baby is not a person whose opinion you need to worry about.

I don’t have any issue with people talking to their kids. I do it myself. What I have an issue with is how loudly some people do it.

I’ve just come back from a hotel and there was this family absolutely shouting across the lobby at each other - mum and dad, “OH GIVE ME THAT BAG DARLING, NO THAT ONE! I’M GOING TO THE TOILET!!!” etc and of course the kids were shouting too. Why can’t people just talk at a normal volume and try not to impact others’ environment?

This thread seems to have a defensive bunch of people who don’t get it. Talking to your kids is lovely. Just try and use your “indoor” voices, K? 🤣

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 31/05/2025 16:06

Hallywally · 30/05/2025 23:43

Loud people in general are annoying, especially posh ones. I can forgive young children more easily as they’re so small but adults with loud voices seem to feel they deserve to impact on people around them.

I think this is the issue. I work with people like this. It smacks of entitlement - “my voice is so important”. Not to do with being a parent. Just being an entitled nobber who loves to shout (kids or no kids).

Pleaseenter · 31/05/2025 15:51

I think you need to loosen up and relax a little, we share the world with other people getting irate over every little thing other people do isn't great for your mental health.

The examples given are not a big deal at all, thugs/drunks/drug users loudly swearing and talking inappropriate in front of children would actually be irritating of course

HangingOver · 31/05/2025 15:45

Oh god I think I'm probably perceived as a performative dog owner.

Fargo79 · 31/05/2025 15:44

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 31/05/2025 14:32

Yeah, you pushed that story beyond the realms of believable at the end there...

And then everyone clapped!

Fargo79 · 31/05/2025 15:43

TwinklyNavyPoster · 31/05/2025 15:33

This feels really unreasonable to me. I've never heard of performance parenting before but I try to talk to my 4 month old as much as I can, to expose him to words and language and keep him stimulated. I obviously don't have an endless supply of things to talk about so I often just talk about what I'm doing, the scenery we are walking past, what's on the shelf in the supermarket aisle, what baby might be thinking about, etc. I'm now worried that other mums might be judging me for doing this when I'm out and about!

It's not nice to feel judged but honestly, imagine what an unhappy, inadequate person you would have to be to look at parents (mums, in most of the examples given) interacting with their kids, trying to engage with them or teach them stuff, and to be silently seething or "raging" as per the OP because you think they're a bit loud.

You sound like a great mum. Anyone who is going to judge you for talking to your baby is not a person whose opinion you need to worry about.

TwinklyNavyPoster · 31/05/2025 15:33

This feels really unreasonable to me. I've never heard of performance parenting before but I try to talk to my 4 month old as much as I can, to expose him to words and language and keep him stimulated. I obviously don't have an endless supply of things to talk about so I often just talk about what I'm doing, the scenery we are walking past, what's on the shelf in the supermarket aisle, what baby might be thinking about, etc. I'm now worried that other mums might be judging me for doing this when I'm out and about!

Fargo79 · 31/05/2025 14:56

BeanQuisine · 31/05/2025 02:18

Yes, that too. Obviously there are people who are not very observant or insightful, and who tend to be tolerant of loud fakes, and easily impressed and manipulated by them.

You sound so pleasant. I'm sure it's the parents who are the problem and it's not just you being intolerant, nosy and judgemental. Definitely.

MsEm · 31/05/2025 14:46

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 31/05/2025 14:32

Yeah, you pushed that story beyond the realms of believable at the end there...

Very sadly that happened on the bus yesterday, and exactly as it happened. So be as snarky as you want.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 31/05/2025 14:32

MsEm · 31/05/2025 14:28

Equally as irritating are the parents with, what I call, "flag babies." I was with my 4 y/o DD on a bus, and a lady got on with a pram. The baby was asleep- I could see into the pram. At the point she sat down, she loudly started cooing and making "ssssh" noises at the sleeping baby...she then got the baby out of the pram, swinging it around wildly...sort of cradling the baby. Whilst she did this, she was looking at everyone else on the bus, grinning and lifting the baby into our line of vision. The baby woke up and started screaming- she then jumped up, and paced the length of the bus singing, but waving the baby in various people's faces. Seriously, we could all see the pram- and there were lots of other children on the bus. It seems bizarre that In order to be looked at with the baby, she swang him around like a little flag. The poor little guy was asleep until she started the performance.
Come off it...it wasn't necessary. The worst thing...another buggy tried to get on, but she wouldn't move her pram 1 inch sideways. But she shouted at the other mum "I'm not moving. My baby is more important than yours."
Bus driver intervened then.
But wow....what an awful performance.

Yeah, you pushed that story beyond the realms of believable at the end there...

MsEm · 31/05/2025 14:28

Equally as irritating are the parents with, what I call, "flag babies." I was with my 4 y/o DD on a bus, and a lady got on with a pram. The baby was asleep- I could see into the pram. At the point she sat down, she loudly started cooing and making "ssssh" noises at the sleeping baby...she then got the baby out of the pram, swinging it around wildly...sort of cradling the baby. Whilst she did this, she was looking at everyone else on the bus, grinning and lifting the baby into our line of vision. The baby woke up and started screaming- she then jumped up, and paced the length of the bus singing, but waving the baby in various people's faces. Seriously, we could all see the pram- and there were lots of other children on the bus. It seems bizarre that In order to be looked at with the baby, she swang him around like a little flag. The poor little guy was asleep until she started the performance.
Come off it...it wasn't necessary. The worst thing...another buggy tried to get on, but she wouldn't move her pram 1 inch sideways. But she shouted at the other mum "I'm not moving. My baby is more important than yours."
Bus driver intervened then.
But wow....what an awful performance.

VikingLady · 31/05/2025 14:00

CremeEggsForBreakfast · 30/05/2025 19:58

I know what performance parenting is and I find it very amusing but I think many on MN think that if a parent is loud enough to be heard then it MUST be performance parenting.

Like the example in the OP. I doubt Timothy's mother was doing anything other than chatting to Timothy. A Lego tower is not worthy of attention from anyone else.

Performance Parenting is specifically when a parent wants everyone else to know how superior they are. In the Lego example, the mother would have been saying "What a wonderful SUSPENSION BRIDGE, Timothy! Jocasta, can you remember when we saw the Clifton Suspension Bridge? Who built that, darlings? Timothy, do you think you could build another of Isambard Kingdom Brunel's bridges next?" The mother would want to show off her children's niche knowledge.

Just having a chat with your kids is not automatically Performance Parenting just because the mother is loud and annoying

Except… this is very nearly an actual conversation I have had with my kids. Bridges were one of my DS’s hyperfoci. He would have been silent at the time so you’d think I was boring him, then corrected me quietly hours later with “that wasn’t a suspension bridge mummy, it was a cable tied bridge”. And if I don’t speak very, very clearly he doesn’t notice me speaking - that’s ADHD.

Some of us just have those kids!

Fargo79 · 31/05/2025 13:32

Bertiebellendy · 31/05/2025 08:39

Whilst dictating the behaviour of those muttering and eye rolling 🤣🤣

Challenging people who are being rude to you (albeit in a cowardly, indirect way) is not remotely comparable to trying to make people interact differently with their children. Not sure what the laughing emojis are about, like you've had some kind of "gotcha" moment.

Illprobsregretthis · 31/05/2025 13:03

ShelbyBelle · 31/05/2025 08:38

Performance parenting. I work in a restaurant and see this literally all the time. We have a ‘mum club’ come in once a week and we dread it every time because of how in your face and loud they can be with it. We’ve even had a couple of guests request to move tables because of how insufferable they can be. But then a couple of them come in separately with their husband and child and the child will be sat on a phone or tablet being completely ignored, so you know the whole thing during ‘mum club’ is a show.

Or maybe they’ve been speaking / engaging with them all day and have decided to give the kid 30 mins on an iPad so they can drink a cup of coffee in peace? We’re all trying our best

Illprobsregretthis · 31/05/2025 13:00

Capybara6473 · 30/05/2025 13:29

I’m on mat leave and bored out of my tits most of time. I sometimes chat to my baby in the pram because a) it’s someone to talk to and b) people keep telling me if I don’t talk to him he’ll be mute until he’s 25 and it will all be my fault.

Yeah same. I sometimes say “shall we go get a coffee?” or like “okay, let’s go home!” or sing him a song (quietly). They literally tell you to do this, emphasise it’s the most important thing to do along with reading etc. People do look at me like I’m nuts to be fair. Can’t do right for wrong really

Red0 · 31/05/2025 11:41

It’s when they’re loud and looking around to check others are listening for me… clearly strangers are the focus of what they’re saying and not their kids.

Doobeedoobeedoobee · 31/05/2025 10:53

Drawings · 30/05/2025 13:31

I think I might be one of those parents who is classed as performance parenting…maybe?

I didn’t realise talking to my kid, praising them was seen as a bad thing. I honestly never do it for anyone else and parent the same at home. Maybe I need to stop as much when I’m out the house

Hey! I had the same thought too when I read this thread! Doesn’t help that I have a very loud voice too!

But I’m not going to stop it, I think it’s what’s best for my kids and if you feel the same, I don’t think you should either. Sending love and solidarity!