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Loud parenting in public spaces

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76born · 30/05/2025 12:56

AIBU to say that even as a parent of two, I find loud parenting and following this, loud children really bloody annoying.
Two examples this week which have had me furious 😡 (I’m obviously bored and need to get a life)
Example one, sat in a cafe now enjoying a cup of tea whilst my two build Lego (it’s a Lego cafe) and one parent is commenting on her child’s building skills, eg “oh wow Timothy, great building of a really high tower Timothy, look jacasta, look how high Timothy’s tower is” (names changed). Now dad joins in. His I’m really mean..
Example two, walking home from school last week when a young g child of about two being pushed in a pushchair mumbled and pointed at something. Mum, in the loudest, poshest voice ever, “yes darling, that black Range Rover is like the one found at grampy’s house”.
i am perimenopause, I get the rage at minor things and just would enjoy your thoughts and of course, examples, to add to this thread.
I thank you

OP posts:
chachahide · 30/05/2025 14:16

I get it's frustrating but I saw a Mum ignore her baby for almost a whole hour whilst she was on her phone in a coffee house. This kid was babbling, laughing, put his arms out, crying... trying all sorts and mum just wasn't engaging. He just gave up in the end, even his toy fell on the floor and she didn't pick it up.... broke my heart a bit, I nearly went and picked up the poor little thing myself...

SalmonDreams · 30/05/2025 14:16

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 30/05/2025 14:10

Of course it’s not put on for a specific person it’s put on for the world at large. It’s annoying, often damaging to the children and designed to make the parent feel better about themselves. There’s a misplaced sense others will feel that they are doing a good job whereas 99% of people are shaking their heads.

There's a lot of assumptions in there about what goes on in somebody else's head.

A friend of mine got accused of something like performance parenting when she was in the US because apparently her accent (standard English accent) was too artificial.

coxesorangepippin · 30/05/2025 14:16

At least the kids aren't on screens and are doing Lego instead

TryingToRecover · 30/05/2025 14:14

Rizzz · 30/05/2025 13:21

I work in a museum and a mum and dad came in with their child in a buggy - who couldn't have been any older than 18 months.

The child pointed to a painting of Henry VIII and the mother said very loudly "Yes that's right Edward. Do you remember when we watched that programme last week and you enjoyed it so much, you wanted to watch it again?"

Then without missing a beat, she looked me straight in the eye and said, "He's interested in the dissolution of the monasteries at the moment".

My face was like >>> 😳 and then >>> 🙄 >>> but quickly turned to >>> 🤣 once they'd left.

That is fucking hilarious 😆

Theworldisinyourhands · 30/05/2025 14:14

lifemakeover · 30/05/2025 14:04

That is 100% NOT what performance parents are doing. They are showing off, loudly for the 'benefit' of others. They want everyone around them to know how marvellous they are as parents, and as a result how marvellous their children are. Completely different to chatting normally to your children, praising them, acknowledging positive behaviour etc at a normal volume.

I don't doubt that there is such thing as 'performance parents' There are also parents who cba to even look at their kids whilst they're out who are the most likely to be rolling their eyes at parents and labelling them performance parents for interacting in a positive way with their kid

I would walk around the supermarket singing or chatting to my child in a sing-song voice when she was a baby for her benefit. I couldn't give a shit what total strangers think of this. I'm not hurting anyone and my daughter is one of the top readers in her class so I'm in no doubt that I gave her what she needed

HoppingPavlova · 30/05/2025 14:12

Ponoka7 · 30/05/2025 13:49

I've got 10+ years on you, I'd happily tell you to GTF at your mutterings. It's fucking pathetic. Anyone out of the teen years shouldn't be eye rolling. You don't get to dictate the behaviour of other people.

No idea what you have on me, I’m ‘old’ish’. But, you would love me as well don’t mutter under my breath. I loudly score it like gymnastics at the Olympics giving a score out of 10 for different performative aspects. I figure if we all have to be subjected to that hogwash, then it’s only fair.

pinkyredrose · 30/05/2025 14:12

Flux1 · 30/05/2025 14:02

I was on a small tour 'train' around a wildlife park recently. A woman behind me decided to loudly sing every single bloody verse of 'The Wheels on the Bus' to her daughter (who was paying no heed and was more interested in looking at the animals). Everyone on the 'train' had to listen to her. So selfish and annoying.

Ooh I'd have bust a gasket at that! Did anyone tell her to STFU?

spoonbillstretford · 30/05/2025 14:12

WomenInSTEM · 30/05/2025 14:08

If the conversations are private why are they being broadcast at the tops of voices for everyone to hear?

Parents of young children get used to a certain level of noise at home and get used to projecting their voices.

SalmonDreams · 30/05/2025 14:11

WomenInSTEM · 30/05/2025 14:08

If the conversations are private why are they being broadcast at the tops of voices for everyone to hear?

I don't know. Some people talk loudly without being aware of it. I am used to being called shy and quiet from when I was a child and was stunned recently when my mum asked me why I always talk so loudly. I asked dh about it and apparently i do have quite a loud voice. I had no idea.

alwaystimeforteatime · 30/05/2025 14:11

To be clear I have no issues with parents engaging with and talking to their children (even if it’s a bit loud) - that’s just parenting.

when they are very loudly proclaiming their 5 year old was influenced by Georgia O’Keefe in the middle of a quiet cafe (with the child showing zero engagement with the conversation) it’s another thing entirely.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 30/05/2025 14:10

SalmonDreams · 30/05/2025 14:07

Uggh if there is one thing I can't stand it's people complaining about performance parenting. Do people have nothing better to do than listen to private conversations of people they don't know and know nothing about and judge them? It's so arrogant as well. Why do you think you are so important that anyone would put up a performance for you?? Why do you think anyone cares what you think of them?? And cares enough to change the way they talk and interact with their kids. Just mind your own business.

It's not like we don't face enough criticism and judgment as parents as it is. I guess, people love to judge and make themselves feel better and parents (other parents, of course), especially mums, are an easy target. I'm sure you can find better and more deserving targets for your spite and vitriol though than people talking to their kids.

Of course it’s not put on for a specific person it’s put on for the world at large. It’s annoying, often damaging to the children and designed to make the parent feel better about themselves. There’s a misplaced sense others will feel that they are doing a good job whereas 99% of people are shaking their heads.

Rizzz · 30/05/2025 14:09

Theworldisinyourhands · 30/05/2025 14:00

How dare these parents want to..... talk to their kids and nurture their social and language skills....heaven forbid!

Edited

Again, Google is widely available...

And if you don't fancy that, the copy and paste upthread will explain what performance parenting is.

101Nutella · 30/05/2025 14:09

Hadn’t heard of performance parenting.

Think sometimes active parenting makes people feel insecure about their own parenting if they wish they were more engaged/less shouty, so they are mean about people putting in effort. Or trying hard.

Agree with the others- better to be a try hard I think than a a parent who is lazy. For the child that is. suppose the volume is key here- if you’re disturbing everyone else in a public space then it’s not ok.

spoonbillstretford · 30/05/2025 14:09

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 30/05/2025 13:17

Why’s it performance parenting vs just speaking and encouraging their children. You really are damned as a parent if you speak to your child, dare to look at your phone, tell your children off. Basically children are still to be seen and not heard.

This. I remember people giving me funny looks when I was talking to DD1 when she was a tiny baby when out and about, as if I was unhinged to do so. Just normal chatting at a normal speaking volume and not a performance. She would soon babble back at me.

I feel that some younger and less confident people don't talk to their kids as much when out and about due to embarrassment and self-consciousness.

Bababear987 · 30/05/2025 14:08

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 30/05/2025 13:17

Why’s it performance parenting vs just speaking and encouraging their children. You really are damned as a parent if you speak to your child, dare to look at your phone, tell your children off. Basically children are still to be seen and not heard.

I dont get this either. I probably do performance parent by other peoples standards but I try and talk as much as possible to my baby to help his vocabulary and encourage him to build confidence and be happy. I try and be happy and lighthearted and smiley when we're out and about cause why not, he makes me so happy.

Christ you cant win. If I wasnt engaging with him, ignoring him, being negative, shouting at him I'm sure other people would be complaining about my parenting.

WomenInSTEM · 30/05/2025 14:08

SalmonDreams · 30/05/2025 14:07

Uggh if there is one thing I can't stand it's people complaining about performance parenting. Do people have nothing better to do than listen to private conversations of people they don't know and know nothing about and judge them? It's so arrogant as well. Why do you think you are so important that anyone would put up a performance for you?? Why do you think anyone cares what you think of them?? And cares enough to change the way they talk and interact with their kids. Just mind your own business.

It's not like we don't face enough criticism and judgment as parents as it is. I guess, people love to judge and make themselves feel better and parents (other parents, of course), especially mums, are an easy target. I'm sure you can find better and more deserving targets for your spite and vitriol though than people talking to their kids.

If the conversations are private why are they being broadcast at the tops of voices for everyone to hear?

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 30/05/2025 14:07

One of my neighbours does loud performance parenting in the garden most days, also gentle parenting where she likes to get the children to basically scream by her screaming to express themselves. The dad (a PE teacher) also shouts and swears it’s like chav central.

Stompythedinosaur · 30/05/2025 14:07

I don't really think praising your dc's lego model is really performance parenting, I think that's just normal parenting. I doubt they are trying to show off with that.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 30/05/2025 14:07

Backtoreality1 · 30/05/2025 12:59

I understand your annoyance, but on the other side of the coin, I am much happier seeing parents talking with their children rather than just being hooked to their phone and ignoring the child.

Why present a false dichotomy? It isn't a choice between ignoring your children and performance parenting.

SalmonDreams · 30/05/2025 14:07

Uggh if there is one thing I can't stand it's people complaining about performance parenting. Do people have nothing better to do than listen to private conversations of people they don't know and know nothing about and judge them? It's so arrogant as well. Why do you think you are so important that anyone would put up a performance for you?? Why do you think anyone cares what you think of them?? And cares enough to change the way they talk and interact with their kids. Just mind your own business.

It's not like we don't face enough criticism and judgment as parents as it is. I guess, people love to judge and make themselves feel better and parents (other parents, of course), especially mums, are an easy target. I'm sure you can find better and more deserving targets for your spite and vitriol though than people talking to their kids.

pinkyredrose · 30/05/2025 14:06

Wisterical · 30/05/2025 13:46

It's not as annoying as women who use perimenopause as an excuse for being judgemental and intolerant.

Have you been through peri-menopause? It makes you feel like you're going mad sometimes, little things that barely annoyed you before can become amplified x 1000!

Bowies · 30/05/2025 14:06

There’s a marked difference between engaging with your DC in a normal voice, versus acting as if you’re on stage with a large audience - so people the other side of Tesco can hear your voice projecting the BAFTA winning performance of DM/F of the year.

YANBU OP

MumbleBumbleAppleCrumble · 30/05/2025 14:06

Rizzz · 30/05/2025 13:54

Key Characteristics of Performance Parenting:

Seeking External Validation:
Performance parenting often involves a need for external approval and recognition, which can manifest in various ways, such as using social media to showcase their parenting or seeking praise from others.

Presenting an Idealized Image:
Parents engage in performance parenting to present an image that is perceived as "perfect" or "successful," often to impress or compare themselves with other parents.

Neglecting Child's Needs:
This can lead to neglecting the actual needs of the child, as the parent's focus is more on the presentation of their parenting rather than on the child's emotional and developmental well-being.

Potential for Stress and Anxiety:
Performance parenting can be stressful for both the parent and the child, as the parent may feel pressure to maintain a certain image while the child may be feeling neglected or pressured to meet unrealistic expectations.

Lots more info on Google.

Well done on being able to use Google, and more so showing us all how great you are at it. Performance Googling perhaps…
Now please go back to the OP’s post and show us where (certainly for the first example) these are examples of performance parenting.
Engaging with a child to congratulate them on what a marvellous attempt they’ve made at building a lego tower is called parenting. That it irritates the OP is incidental and certainly doesn’t sit under those characteristics you’ve highlighted.

TheAmusedQuail · 30/05/2025 14:05

DontTouchRoach · 30/05/2025 13:23

Performance parenting drives me nuts. Parents being involved and chatting with their kids is great. Parents who loudly talk to their children in a performative, perpetually educational manner, as if they are their teacher, drive me nuts. It’s like they can’t just have a normal conversation with their own kids.

Woman who lives near us does this. Her son is the same age as mine.

My boy turned round to me one day when she was talking to him and said 'Mum, why is she talking to me like that?' LOL Didn't know where to look, although he was right.

80smonster · 30/05/2025 14:05

Yes loud parenting and children are irritating, as are other people generally, oh and whinge fests - like this thread.