To think reality shows of the early 2000s have not aged well! Doing a rewatch

She was devastated she wanted her family and friends there. I couldn't believe what a that he was and thought he didn't like her all that much.

I remember it vividly (sad, aren’t I?). She cried at the checkin desk at the airport and said she wasn’t going. There was a huge amount of drama, then her mum persuaded her to go - probably on the basis they’d have to pay all the money back if there was no wedding.

@blossomtoes @Coffeeishot I must be misremembering, I thought she didn't go. Not surprised they didn't last.

There was something on TV about them i think it was a catch up.programme, anyway they divorced within a year, she probably just went through with it to save face,

Didn’t she go in the end? I read somewhere it didn’t last anyway.

Anyone remember 'Don't Tell The Bride'? One woman said, 'anything but Vegas'. He booked Vegas, she flatly refused to go. I don't know if their relationship ever recovered...

I’m sorry but your understanding of the obesity epidemic is about 20 years out of date. Obesity is often linked to innate traits, and to trauma suffered.

The kind of attitude you are displaying is part of the cause of why we aren’t successfully tackling it.

Of course fatshaming is bad whether it’s outdated or not it certainly has negative impact on people. When I was obese I struggled with going outside for a walk or to go shopping because I worried what people would say /think. I stayed in and continued to order takeaways. No one did say anything but I noticed people didn’t treat me as well which made me reluctant to go out as much. This adding to the problem of being sedentary.

Had they been actively calling me names and shaming me it would’ve been even worse. I eventually just had to push through to lose the weight, ignore any perceived looks I got out and about and at the gym, and now I’m almost at a healthy BMI.

I’m thankful I didn’t have any fat shamers in my life, as they’d have demoralised and demotivated me and I’d probably still be ordering takeaways frequently and avoiding walking anywhere.

Additionally, overeating can indeed be very much of your upbringing. I had a friend who used to serve her 4 year old large adult sized portions of anything we were eating for meals
And then there are people who enable and even encourage unhealthy snacking as part of their children’s lives. So by the time they’re adults its very ingrained in them.

People know they are overweight it isn't some sort of "revelation " when told. fat shaming isn't about the person's health either even though they liked to wrap it up as concern.

Oh that was funny I actually didn't feel sorry for the brides they knew who they. Were marrying !

I liked 4 weddings it was on Living tv they just sat at each other's weddings with faces like slapped behinds !

I agree in principle but Fat Families was fine. Fat shaming is not outdated or necessarily bad. The shock treatment often works with that sort of thing and we should not normalise being obese. Stuffing your face full of crisps and chocolate isn’t something innate like your upbringing/class, sexuality or being trans.

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The show "your face or mine?" Couples had to decide whether their partner is more or less attractive then random people/ celebrities, also voted by the audience. At the end they had to guess who the audience thought was the most attractive out of the couple. There was one couple ( one obviously more attractive than the other) the show decided to put a picture up of both their mums instead and they had to choose whose mum was the most attractive...lol

May have been mentioned but do you remember The Farm? Where Rebecca Loo's w%$ked off a pig....

You just made me think of Don't tell the Bride. I loved that when it first came out. Has it been mentioned yet?

Wedding stories on bbc3 around 2004. Fly on the wall following wedding but they mainly made fun of the wedding. I remember one bride actually screaming at her guest and another saying reminding her husband to be careful with the “women” he may meet on his stag party in Amsterdam “if you cane be good be careful love”

Young dumb and living off mum, made us better parents we vowed our kids wouldn't be waify lay abouts ! It used to infuriate me.

Does anyone remember Young, Dumb and Living Off Mum? They put a bunch of lazy obnoxious teens/young adults in a house and the parents have to watch. The idea was they were sposed to learn basic life skills like budgeting/housework etc. Each week one would be voted off by the parents. Kinda similar to Sun Sea and Suspicious Parents, the parents are always in so much denial about their kids behaviour.

All of it was interesting. Seems the main reason she doesn't wear as much black now is that other people often choose her clothes for TV.

Interesting. 'I did look like what people assumed was a radical feminist 70s lesbian' gave me a wry smile.

One that I actually don't think was problematic (although I haven't watched it since) is Make My Body Younger, presented by George Lamb.

They took a youngish person every episode who had an unhealthy lifestyle – too much drink/drugs/junk food/smoking/late nights/no exercise etc – and ran tests on their heart and liver and everything and came up with their 'age' according to their body. It was quite shocking sometimes how much 'older' people's bodies were than their actual age. They'd have family members gathered when they got the initial results and there'd be crying, hugging, the lot.

They'd spend the rest of the ep trying to reform, with the help of various experts, and do the tests again at the end. They'd always have shaved off some years.

I always fancied, and still kind of fancy, having all those tests myself, although another part of me doesn't want to!

I googled why Jo Brand used to wear black and it seems it wasn't to do with her weight, but some kind of rejection of femininity.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2009/apr/09/question-time-jo-brand

She goes into more detail here about the problem with dressing in pretty clothes and getting male attention https://littlewander.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/36Who-Are-You-Wearing_-With-Jo-Brand.pdf