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To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 29/05/2025 19:22

I visited Amsterdam last year and was shocked to see an apparently middle class women coming down to breakfast in her pj's,dressing gown and slippers. Similarly going round Tescos where there are people, especially women in pj's and slippers. No doubt I'll be called an old right wing fascist or something.

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IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/06/2025 21:23

OonaStubbs · 01/06/2025 21:00

I'm sure there'd be outrage amongst pyjama clad parents if teachers started turning up to school in pyjamas (and before anyone says it, on a normal, non-charity day).

Teach my kids. Wear what works for you as long as it's not revealing. And I'm not one of the outdoor pj wearing massive.

OonaStubbs · 01/06/2025 21:00

I'm sure there'd be outrage amongst pyjama clad parents if teachers started turning up to school in pyjamas (and before anyone says it, on a normal, non-charity day).

TeaAndTattoos · 01/06/2025 17:23

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:40

Totally agree, which is why I reported it a few days ago. As soon as the thread started, its unsavoury title was a giveaway.

I can’t understand why it’s still here I would’ve thought they would remove the thread or at least do something about that title.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 01/06/2025 13:25

YourAmplePlumPoster · 01/06/2025 13:19

What on earth does the "jewellery and make up set" mean? Is it illegal now?

It means it's not necessary for every time you leave the house, and to be completely done up for things like the school run is pointless.

Much like you think PJ's are inappropriate (at breakfast, which honestly is a ridiculous thought), many people think spending so much time (and money actually, for make up) just to nip the kids to school or to run to the corner shop is silly.

It'd be a boring world if we were all the same, wouldn't it OP? So you carry on doing what makes you feel good and let everyone else do what suits them.

WhereHasMyPlanetGone · 01/06/2025 13:21

YourAmplePlumPoster · 01/06/2025 13:19

What on earth does the "jewellery and make up set" mean? Is it illegal now?

No, it’s no more illegal than wearing pyjamas to breakfast.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 01/06/2025 13:19

What on earth does the "jewellery and make up set" mean? Is it illegal now?

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 01/06/2025 13:18

TeaAndTattoos · 01/06/2025 09:23

How can you sit there and act like Hyacinth Bucket over people choosing to wear pj’s and then turn round and spell a basic word like Lidl wrong.

Maybe because I don't shop in Lidl. Spelling noted.

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YourAmplePlumPoster · 01/06/2025 13:14

BeanQuisine · 31/05/2025 04:36

Ha, no, a most pertinent post indeed.😁

One which reveals you were completely unaware that pyjamas originated in India (a place you've doubtless never been) and that in England, they were originally regarded as posh evening wear by the jewellery and make-up set.

I was talking about a hotel I was staying in in Shimla a couple of years ago. I am a great fan of India and its culture and visit every couple of years if I can with my Indian friend.

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LBFseBrom · 01/06/2025 13:13

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 01/06/2025 09:55

I often go out in the garden in my nightie or dressing gown and I've even sat outside! The garden is overlooked but who cares? If something needs to go in the bin and I'm not dressed I put my dressing gown on and take it, it wouldn't occur to me to get dressed first! Presumably the OP would expect me to get dressed and put my make up and jewellery on first!

I think that's normal. I've never actually been out anywhere in night clothes and cannot imagine it but I put bins out and go in the garden in dressing gown or pyjamas, so do most people. There's nothing wrong with that.

When I had a school child I also went to work part time, two and, later, three days a week. On work days I would get up earlier and leave the house well groomed and smart, on my days off I'd get up, quick wash and teeth clean, throw on joggers and take son to school. I'd bathe and dress nicely later. That was normal too, I wasn't going to faff around blow drying my hair and putting on make up just to drop off at school - but I was wearing clothes, not pyjamas :-). I've never seen anyone out and about in pyjamas anyway, only heard of it on here and facebook.

Some of my pyjamas look like leisure clothes or joggers, whatever, I could probably get away with it :-). Not a frilly nightie though, and slippers. At 75 I think I'd frighten people.

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 12:57

ObelixtheGaul · 01/06/2025 12:26

But why comment at all? If you know some people might comment about your attire and it might not only be negative, but also involve assumptions that couldn't be further from the truth, why wouldn't you think your assumptions about laziness, etc, might also be inaccurate.

You acknowledge that you dress for your own comfort. So do I. It's not pyjamas, but it's not makeup, etc. So my assumptions about other people are based on them doing as I do, only what makes them comfortable is different.

There's absolutely no need for me to attach value judgements. I'm in Sainsbury's to shop. So are they. What they wear has no bearing on the task at hand for me. It doesn't prevent me getting my groceries.

It might be human nature to judge, but it isn't something anybody should be proud of doing and it is something we can all decide not to do in situations involving complete strangers who aren't causing physical or mental harm to anyone else.

It's unpleasant and unnecessary and serves no useful purpose for anyone concerned.

Fair enough, I do only judge in the moment at the time in my head, I’d never say anything to anybody and I would not let my children be mean about anyone’s looks either. Like you said it probably is human nature to judge, no need to be mean though.

ObelixtheGaul · 01/06/2025 12:26

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 11:49

I guess it’s a case of our different life experiences making us who we are. I’m one of those wouldn’t leave the house without makeup and nice hair types, it’s takes me an hour to get ready in the morning. I can accept people may be making comments about me, just like I do when I see people in Asdas wearing pyjamas. I don’t care though and will continue you to dress as I do, just as I accept the people on the school run in there dressing gowns don’t care about my opinion.
I don’t dress for other people though, I do it because it’s how I’m comfortable.

But why comment at all? If you know some people might comment about your attire and it might not only be negative, but also involve assumptions that couldn't be further from the truth, why wouldn't you think your assumptions about laziness, etc, might also be inaccurate.

You acknowledge that you dress for your own comfort. So do I. It's not pyjamas, but it's not makeup, etc. So my assumptions about other people are based on them doing as I do, only what makes them comfortable is different.

There's absolutely no need for me to attach value judgements. I'm in Sainsbury's to shop. So are they. What they wear has no bearing on the task at hand for me. It doesn't prevent me getting my groceries.

It might be human nature to judge, but it isn't something anybody should be proud of doing and it is something we can all decide not to do in situations involving complete strangers who aren't causing physical or mental harm to anyone else.

It's unpleasant and unnecessary and serves no useful purpose for anyone concerned.

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 11:49

ObelixtheGaul · 01/06/2025 11:34

That's a terrible thing to go through, but let me ask you, do you think other people being judgemental arseholes helped in any way?

My mother was a stickler for us being turned out well, etc. 90% of it was fear of judgement. 'What will the neighbours think?' was her mantra, only to later tell me as a self-conscious teen that I cared too much what others thought.

But despite that adherence to propriety, she would have come down on me like a ton of bricks if I had commented on someone else's attire. Well-mannered people didn't remark upon other people. It was 'common' to do so.

Most children go through a phase of being embarrassed by their parents. Your son might also not be 'seen dead' with you in a bright shirt, or an outfit the other mums don't wear. If the 'norm' at drop off is jeans and T shirts, I suspect OPs kids might die of embarrassment at her wearing makeup and jewellery.

If I'd dared mention to my mother I wouldn't be seen dead with her in any outfit, I would have been walking.

I guess it’s a case of our different life experiences making us who we are. I’m one of those wouldn’t leave the house without makeup and nice hair types, it’s takes me an hour to get ready in the morning. I can accept people may be making comments about me, just like I do when I see people in Asdas wearing pyjamas. I don’t care though and will continue you to dress as I do, just as I accept the people on the school run in there dressing gowns don’t care about my opinion.
I don’t dress for other people though, I do it because it’s how I’m comfortable.

ObelixtheGaul · 01/06/2025 11:34

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 11:03

If you can put pyjamas on your can put clothes on, Jogging bottoms are day clothes so you are dressed appropriately.
I keep seeing videos all over social media at the moment where I hate to say it but it’s mums 99% of the time trying to normalise wearing pyjamas all day, not showering and getting there kids dressed all week or showing off their filthy homes all under the heading.. Dont judge me as a mum, I’m depressed ect.
I get people have there struggles but these children get one childhood and deserve better.
Ive had periods of depression and grief, I climbed back into to bed the second I’d dropped mine at school… fully washed and dressed. I was brought up by a woman who didn’t get help with mental health and that resulted in a shitty childhood where I never had clean clothes and lived in an embarrassing shit hole, children deserve more effort.

That's a terrible thing to go through, but let me ask you, do you think other people being judgemental arseholes helped in any way?

My mother was a stickler for us being turned out well, etc. 90% of it was fear of judgement. 'What will the neighbours think?' was her mantra, only to later tell me as a self-conscious teen that I cared too much what others thought.

But despite that adherence to propriety, she would have come down on me like a ton of bricks if I had commented on someone else's attire. Well-mannered people didn't remark upon other people. It was 'common' to do so.

Most children go through a phase of being embarrassed by their parents. Your son might also not be 'seen dead' with you in a bright shirt, or an outfit the other mums don't wear. If the 'norm' at drop off is jeans and T shirts, I suspect OPs kids might die of embarrassment at her wearing makeup and jewellery.

If I'd dared mention to my mother I wouldn't be seen dead with her in any outfit, I would have been walking.

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 11:03

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 01/06/2025 10:26

But it’s not always laziness. People with mental health problems have explained that getting up in the morning and getting to the shop is an achievement some days. I explained that PJ bottoms were the only comfortable clothes I had after surgery. Maybe try teaching your son not to judge other people

If you can put pyjamas on your can put clothes on, Jogging bottoms are day clothes so you are dressed appropriately.
I keep seeing videos all over social media at the moment where I hate to say it but it’s mums 99% of the time trying to normalise wearing pyjamas all day, not showering and getting there kids dressed all week or showing off their filthy homes all under the heading.. Dont judge me as a mum, I’m depressed ect.
I get people have there struggles but these children get one childhood and deserve better.
Ive had periods of depression and grief, I climbed back into to bed the second I’d dropped mine at school… fully washed and dressed. I was brought up by a woman who didn’t get help with mental health and that resulted in a shitty childhood where I never had clean clothes and lived in an embarrassing shit hole, children deserve more effort.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 01/06/2025 10:26

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 10:13

To be fair I wouldn’t knock about with someone who wore pyjamas to Sainsbury’s. It’s not about who is in charge, it’s lazy and embarrassing.
I can’t believe people argue to be honest, just put some day time clothes on.

But it’s not always laziness. People with mental health problems have explained that getting up in the morning and getting to the shop is an achievement some days. I explained that PJ bottoms were the only comfortable clothes I had after surgery. Maybe try teaching your son not to judge other people

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 10:23

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 10:13

To be fair I wouldn’t knock about with someone who wore pyjamas to Sainsbury’s. It’s not about who is in charge, it’s lazy and embarrassing.
I can’t believe people argue to be honest, just put some day time clothes on.

If you've got your kid dictating what you wear, it's an issue. Different to not wanting to be seen with your mate in PJs. I do accept that PP might have just been using a throwaway term.

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 10:13

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:33

Who's in charge, your or your son?

To be fair I wouldn’t knock about with someone who wore pyjamas to Sainsbury’s. It’s not about who is in charge, it’s lazy and embarrassing.
I can’t believe people argue to be honest, just put some day time clothes on.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 01/06/2025 09:55

GlomOfNit · 01/06/2025 00:20

I loathe it in shops or on the school run (if you get out of your car...) but ... having thought about it...

I do myself often walk down the garden in my Pjs and out onto the back lane. It gives onto a field and a few other houses' drives give onto the same lane. It's not at all uncommon for me to see neighbours passing on the lane (dog walk, etc) while I've drifted down the garden to look into the field/take a photo of the sunrise/etc). So is that skanky? Grin It really doesn't feel skanky (and my PJs are nice traditional button-up and not slovenly ones) but maybe my neighbours secretly think I'm letting the entire road down. I've been known to pop out of the front door to get a package/put something in the wheely bin in PJs too.

And camping, I just feel it's part of acceptable camping etiquette to wear your PJs out of the tent to the loos/shower block etc. And at festivals if going to the loo. Isn't it?

I often go out in the garden in my nightie or dressing gown and I've even sat outside! The garden is overlooked but who cares? If something needs to go in the bin and I'm not dressed I put my dressing gown on and take it, it wouldn't occur to me to get dressed first! Presumably the OP would expect me to get dressed and put my make up and jewellery on first!

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:40

TeaAndTattoos · 01/06/2025 09:36

I’m struggling to believe that this whole post is actually real because it just comes across as being a massive troll post of all the things that they could’ve made a post about this is what they choose.

Totally agree, which is why I reported it a few days ago. As soon as the thread started, its unsavoury title was a giveaway.

TeaAndTattoos · 01/06/2025 09:36

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:25

They are playing on the words Lidl and idle. More juvenile behaviour from the OP.

I’m struggling to believe that this whole post is actually real because it just comes across as being a massive troll post of all the things that they could’ve made a post about this is what they choose.

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:33

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 09:31

To the people commenting that they wear pyjamas to do school pick ups and to go to Asda ect., Do your children not say anything?
My son wouldn’t have been seen dead with me if I’d tried to walking in pyjamas outside.

Who's in charge, your or your son?

SunComeBack · 01/06/2025 09:31

To the people commenting that they wear pyjamas to do school pick ups and to go to Asda ect., Do your children not say anything?
My son wouldn’t have been seen dead with me if I’d tried to walking in pyjamas outside.

Dangermoo · 01/06/2025 09:25

TeaAndTattoos · 01/06/2025 09:23

How can you sit there and act like Hyacinth Bucket over people choosing to wear pj’s and then turn round and spell a basic word like Lidl wrong.

They are playing on the words Lidl and idle. More juvenile behaviour from the OP.

TeaAndTattoos · 01/06/2025 09:23

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 20:29

Plain to see these people wandering around Asda, Lidle or whatever don't work. They're there in their pj's at noon in the supermarket. Sorry to sound "judgemental."

How can you sit there and act like Hyacinth Bucket over people choosing to wear pj’s and then turn round and spell a basic word like Lidl wrong.

UsernameTalk · 01/06/2025 07:45

YourAmplePlumPoster · 30/05/2025 19:11

It's a bit like the families that send their children to school in nappies when they should have long been out of nappies. It's feckless behaviour that is excused. The same as the feckless behavior of grown adults wandering around in Asda midday in pj's or turning up for breakfast in pj's. Let alone the ones who are apparently going to the movies in pj's and a comfort blanket. F$ck off and grow up, FFS.

Some children have disabilities. My child was in nappies the first year of school due to his diagnosed disability.

The blanket at cinema could be a weighted blanket due to sensory issues.

Also why do women have to wear makeup to look presentable and not men?

I agree with adults not wearing pjs outside but you just sound sexist and phobic to people with disabilities and mental health issues