To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

Neither should judgmental mums without empathy.

Cos they always dressed well innit

That made me laugh too. But perhaps it's all relative, and not going to the supermarket in your undies is considered "dressing up"?

Let's bash the people who live in social housing. We'll soon have a full bingo card. 🙄

Haha, OK so you're a troll. I'm with you on the pj's but you can be presentable without makeup and jewellry Hyacinthe !

Stubble? OMG, how did you cope?
What does a dirty sleepy face look like?

I cant' say I notice these things in other hotel guests. I am too bust eating my breakfast and talking to whoever I am with.

Seems like your world is full of "shoulds" with no regard for the reality of complex, messy, unpredictable and diverse lives.

Were you sitting at the same table as them? 😂

I've never seen anyone do this

You've really bought into this wind up OP, haven't you?

Why the 'wow'? I think it's a perfectly reasonable comment.

So you actually think that women with chaotic lifestyles eg combinations of addictions, lots of children by different men who come and go, very low income, irregular housing situations, not capable of providing clean clothes, regular meals etc should have children do you?

I certainly don't. And presumably the social workers, family courts and other services who have to deal with the unfortunate children brought up in this way don't either.

I’ve done it before. Ran down to Tesco in my jammie bottoms to get breakfast food in the early morning. I do agree it’s grotty, and if my mum knew she would absolutely give me smack to the back of the head and a telling off, but I did it anyway. Not my finest moment but not my worst either. DD and DS will somehow come somewhere with me in their jammies. DD likes to put them on as soon as she gets home because she sees me do it, so sometimes if we need to nip to the shop I’ll just take her in her jammies (I get dressed).

I don’t really judge people for it because I don’t know their circumstances. We could all become chronically ill or disabled at any moment, and maybe the person in their jammies is struggling and that’s the only way they could manage to get out the house. When I do it (total of about 10 times in my life) it’s laziness and because I am still a scruff deep down, but I don’t know other people’s circumstances.

It’s not just PJs at breakfast in a hotel. I was in a hotel last year and several of the guests rocked up for breakfast (not in PJs) but with stubble, manky unwashed hair, sweaty looking clothes that they seemed to have rolled around in, dirty sleepy faces, unbrushed teeth etc. The men were the worst, but some women culprits too. Really put me off my Full English.

I think there is a huge difference to popping down to the hotel breakfast in ur pj’s then walking around the shops / dropping the kids at school

Don't worry OP, I'm sure you're just much better than all of them. After all, your students complimented your make up and jewellery so you must be.

I never see this where I live. Perhaps you should move somewhere less common?

I haven't worn make up for years. Why is it necessary?

The school run or shopping is not something I would do myself wearing pyjamas but I hope, as a teacher, you don’t let the judgement you’ve made about the parents that do, affect the way you treat their children.

I only say this as there was a fellow student at my university interview for our teaching degree who had the same opinion as you and took it as far as to say she didn’t believe the children of ‘those kind of parents’ deserved the same education as the ‘posher’ children especially if they came from
council estates too! I was dumbfounded and felt so sorry for her future pupils. It isn’t a child’s fault how their parents present themselves and they are no less deserving of anything because of it, especially their education.

Yes, they are dropping their kids off in pyjamas and yes, it absolutely does only take a matter of minutes to get dressed but if their kids are at school, on time and ready to learn, that’s what matters. Even if there are other problems alongside, I’d take those children under my wing as their teacher.

I was the kid from the council estate and you could tell the teachers who judged you for it and treated you differently because of it. The teachers that didn’t, I still remember them fondly to this day. They are the reason I wanted to become a teacher myself.

I realise this is a bit of a tangent but just wanted to point out that the kids can tell if you let the judgement of their parents affect your teaching of them. (Not accusing you of such by the way).

I'd never wear my bed clothes out, or even lounge clothes like joggers.

However I saw two English ladies on holiday recently in day-jamas. Blue pin stripes and pink pin stripes and i have to say, they looked very swish. But they were very clearly 'dressed' both with hair done, make up and jewellery.

I didn't even know day-jamas were a thing until then!

🤣

He is ok. OP is only disgusted with women who do that, it seems.

I was all cosy in my house in my PJs. I saw a man collapsed in my road, so went out to check on him. He got up and stumbled around for an hour, with me following him... in my PJs and slippers. We ended up next to a duel carriageway!
I could not tell if he was drunk or unwell. A passerby called an ambulance, but then the man led us back to my road, got his keys out and let himself into a house 2 doors down from me!

I also suffer from MH issues at at times I have have put a long coat over PJs to go to the shop etc. It is that or not go out at all as I would have spent my spoons on getting dressed etc, and maybe putting on make up and jewellery if I was OP.

OP you’re clearly bored this evening aren’t ya

I did go to the supermarket once in my pyjamas but I was 21 at the time and it was for a bet. Other than that NOPE.

I don’t own any tracksuit bottoms. I lived through the shell suit era! Give me PJs any day!