To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

I wouldn't care less if someone was wearing pjs to BREAKFAST in a hotel. That said, if I am eating breakfast in a hotel, I get room service because I'm even lazier than the people going down in their pjs.

OK, please tell us the stats that correlate parents doing the school run in PJs (I should say just mothers, as that is who OP has an issue with), and childhood neglect.

I am waiting.

I was going to say it seems cosy if I see someone nip to the corner shop of an evening to grab some milk in their onesie or something. Can imagine them going back, sitting on the couch with a cuppa - which is exactly what I'd want to do in that moment too! 😅 Couldn't do it myself though, feel too sloppy and self conscious!

I'm utterly shocked. MN usually prides itself on being as low maintenance as possible. More than 1 birthday present? You're spoiling them! Makeup and anything more than a bar of soap on your face is wasteful and unnecessary.

For me, that bloody awful teletubby top knot bun needs to be made illegal on men and women

Well judging by the number of children in this country who are in care, or under the supervision of social services, there are plenty of people who should not have become parents.
Furthermore, from a social services point of you a parent doesn't even have to be a good parent, they just have to be "good enough", so clearly there are parents who don't even reach that level.
If stating those facts is judgemental then I'm happy to be called that.

So you started with objecting to people going out in public wearing pjs, which is a reasonable viewpoint. Not one that everyone will agree with, but not outrageous either. However, you’ve then progressed onto saying you never leave the house without makeup, the importance of having some decorum, and some nonsense about the middle class leading the working class, so you’ve ended up just sounding like you’re looking for a reason to claim superiority over people. Snobbishness is a far more unattractive trait than the perceived laziness of going out in PJs in my book. I would not go out in PJs, but I wouldn’t judge someone else if they did, I wouldn’t think less of them. I do really dislike snobs though.

The secret is to wear tracksuit bottoms, leggings, t shirts and hoodies etc as your PJ’s then no one knows. They see you in them bright and early and think it is gym related.

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Such massive leaps in this post that I'm surprised you haven't exited the earth's atmosphere.

What an absolutely nasty, narrow-minded and judgemental set of Daily Mail knee-jerk rent-a-prejudices. I'd actually prefer to know a non-judgemental person who went to the shop in their PJs, than an impeccably dressed person spouting the sort of bile you did in your post.

When I worked in Teesside/Hartlepool I could tell when Christmas was approaching as all the PJ’s changed over to Christmas ones.

Don't be obtuse. You know it's not a case of someone "genuinely only have dressing gowns and novelty slippers". But if someone is struggling, with any aspect of life, maybe that's all that's clean. Or maybe that's what they're already wearing and getting changed is just one step too far.

I know it sounds all wishy washy "bleeding heart", but seriously, the judgment all around us is so depressing and damaging and I wish it would stop. I'm a carer and have known people in living situations you wouldn't even be able to imagine. People are judged for staying home and not venturing out, then they're judged for going out in the wrong things. People act like judging is harmless but it's not. Indulge in it if you like but know you're ignorant.

I don't see PJs on the school run, but do in my local supermarket at night occasionally. However, PJs would be nicer than some of the clothes parents wear at the school gate every afternoon.

I.also worked in a professional office where one colleague turned up in a cheap tracksuit every day & hair didn't look brushed. I actually suspect they were her PJs.

It could be that I'm just a personality type that cares how I present myself. You never know who you might run into!

If it’s early morning or late at night I don’t see the problem going to the shop in PJs, I’ve done it when I was at uni but did have a winter coat on top of them.

Doing the school run in PJs is embarrassing, I’ve never seen anyone do it though.

Why on earth do you care or think it is any of your business what anyone else is wearing?

The fact you can't leave the house without wearing make up, is in my opinion more weird than people out in their Pj's. I should add that I personally don't venture out in public in Pj's but probably only because I don't ever wear them 😂

Well I've explained why I wore mine to John Lewis. Does working from home count? I haven't worked in an office for a while but I've done numerous teams calls in my koala print Oodie.

@XenoBitch

But why does it matter to you?
What harm is it doing to you? Fuck all I bet.

It's not doing me any harm, I just think its cringeworthy. Sue me, but this is a chat board where people give their opinions.

Supermarket and work are totally different things.

totally agree. I have driven my kids to school in my pjs when ill, with boots and coat on to cover them up , and didn’t get out the car , but wouldn’t be seen in public wearing them

But why does it matter to you?
What harm is it doing to you? Fuck all I bet.

I LOVE pyjamas, I always wear my dressing gown at home even in the summer, I won’t be in the house without it on, and at the weekend I’m in my pjs until late morning unless we have plans. I get changed into them when I know I won’t be going out again. But hell would have to freeze over before I took my dc anywhere in their pyjamas (unless it was an emergency hospital visit) or left the house in mine. When we recently stayed at a hotel, it was a quick change into leggings and a t shirt for breakfast and proper day clothes on after.

Ah, we need a neon sign.

OMG I think I know her. I came across a post by her on another forum, using her real name, where she said she wore basques and stockings and suspenders to work because they were ‘more comfortable’!

@XenoBitch

How do you know the difference?

I can't verify in each and every case, obviously, that everyone who does this has no alternative clothing available to them. Maybe some people genuinely only have dressing gowns and novelty slippers. But it takes seconds to swap out your novelty slippers for a pair of trainers and discard your dressing gown. How hard can it be?

Hotel breakfast in your pjs I can get on board with and wish I had the balls to do.

The other stuff is definitely grim.

I'll make sure I wear a sign if it happens again - 'to all the judgemental twats, I had surgery last week and don't have any comfortable trousers'