To think that women (or men) who drop their kids off at school in PJS, go shopping in Tesco in pj's and come down to the breakfast in a hotel in pj's are wrong in the head?

clutches pearls harder

I see it all the time round my way. Women (and it never seems to be men) in pjs, slippers and dressing gowns shopping in town, popping to the corner shop and sooooo many on the school run.

I have very rarely seen this phenomenon round here.

The last time was at the beacon lighting for VE day and someone walked past with their dog wearing pyjamas (the person, not the dog ), but that is very unusual round here - village location.

However, I never see anyone in the market town nearby or the local large town in pyjamas either. Maybe it's because it is normally too cold and wet so people are in the habit of getting dressed when they get up?

I see it all the time round my way. Women (and it never seems to be men) in pjs, slippers and dressing gowns shopping in town, popping to the corner shop and sooooo many on the school run.
Surely its the height of laziness to not bother doing a quick change?

I recently had this dilemma as I had bad vertigo and wasnt able to do much for a couple of days, but still had to wobble outside with my dogs a couple of times a day.
I ended up sleeping in joggers and a t shirt so I could still be fairly presentable in public! And thats the thing.....there are so many things you can wear to bed that dont look like pajamas and yet people are still wandering around Sainsburys in Hello Kitty pjs and fluffy slippers.

Wearing PJs to breakfast in an hotel is on a par with eating, talking and using a phone through a film at the cinema. Bad manners in a restaurant, such as letting children run around.
Surely we can differentiate between home and public behaviour.

I also wonder whether the same posters on Mumsnet who are always asking "how to be more middle class" are the same ones who wear pyjamas to shop?

Most do

Some like me are unwell, I’m clean, dressed, normally no make up, it’s hard having a long term progressive illness
Never go out in pjs tho

I'm a working class person. I can assure you that it is used to offend WC people.
I am not a slob or a criminal.
The jojo bow trend was vicious on mumsnet, little girls being called CHAV's.
Sportswear/ft ball jerseys for boys. CHAV's
New cars, must be drug dealing a CHAV.
"The underclass" righto.

The title of the thread is not 'Do you think women who drop their kids off in PJs are terrible mothers and shouldn't be parents', though.

You've just twisted the subject matter in order to be able to shoehorn in your own prejudiced and blinkered 'point of you'. [sic] If this was what you wanted to froth about it would have made more sense to start your own echo chamber thread, surely?

That was the origin of the term, back in the days of shell suits.

That could be Britain's new slogan, as so many now live by it.
Don't GAF!

I love my Crocs and will quite happily wear them in public! They are the one thing that doesn't make my bad foot hurt. Maybe I should get the sign I mentioned in another post - 'wearing Crocs as I have a bad foot'! I'm dreading getting a job as I'll be expected to wear shoes!

To me, the C word is not associated with WC people. As I said, rather with slobbish and/or antisocial behaviour, which is perhaps more associated with what some sociologist has called the ‘underclass’.

😆 🤣 😂 😹

I'm sorry for your loss 💐
Sounds like a horrible night for you both but I'm sure it was a great comfort to your boyfriend that you were there...even if you were in your pyjamas!!

There are some really nasty, judgemental posts on this thread.

The G word is associate with Romany and Irish Travellers.
The C word is associated with WC people.

Haha! Crocs and Burberry scarves.

High end fashion items, practical and sensible wear or symbols of working class tack and slobbishness?

Discuss.

www.elle.com.au/fashion/crocs-at-australian-fashion-week/

Suggest you take it up with the Oxford English Dictionary, who describe it as a derogatory term originating from Romani: https://www.oed.com/dictionary/chav_n.

Or Friends, Families and Travellers: https://www.gypsy-traveller.org/about-us/frequently-asked-questions/

Weren’t they simply criminals? What’s council housing got to do with it? Or sportswear?

Nearly always used as a derogatory, sneering term. As for origins:

• https://thestoppingplace.eastsussex.gov.uk/young-people

• https://www.oed.com/dictionary/chav_n

Use appeared to have started in Kent.

To the vast majority of people, the C word is not associated with Romany people. Merely with slobbish, anti-social behaviour.

And I don’t see it associated with ‘working class’ at all. Merely with slobbish, anti-social behaviour.

Then I suggest you RTFT to see how those views are being put across. Half a story is no story.

i wear Crocs in my car (take my riding boots off, put Crocs on to drive home) BUT my Crocs never see the public, if i have to get out to go to a shop i change in to my trainers, so no way would i ever wear PJ's out in public 😂

I haven’t RTFT but someone is too bone idle to whack some clothes in the morning people can judge away! If the person doesn’t want to be judged, they can put some clothes on!!! There are disabilities, yes, but anyone that has the physical ability to get out of the house has the physical ability to put clothes on.

Yes, it is disgusting, the superiority and shining halo of certain MC mumsnet users, when really they're using their status and ego to use derogatory language against WC people.

It is so hard for them, as shockingly some WC make a lot of money, they now have access to centre parks, 4/5 star hotels, first-class flights, luckily they can be spotted and sided eyed by the MC snobs.

The language is not acceptable against any other group. I spent time battening against them on here, but gave up years ago, ignorance is bliss.

My Dbro will enjoy wearing his colourful clothing while carrying a rag tabloid when travelling first-class, nothing like a rich builder to turn their stomach.

Chav as hurtful as racism, from a WC persons perspective. Imo. If a person can't change it in hours, don't be a cruel c*nt.

I always thought chav meant council housed and violent. I grew up in a council house and there were a fair few folk who had a deep love of sportswear, sovereign jewellery, football based violence and lots of booze. Often in and out of prison for gbh after giving someone a good kicking.

Some people are inspired by cliches. Wouldn’t of associated it with Romani. Possibly it’s regional use?